Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
Dec 17th 2006, 9:39 am
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Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
by Dr. Earl Evleth PhD Posted Dec 28, 2005
President Bush's 2005 Kwanzaa message began with the patently absurd
statement: "African-Americans and people around the world reflect on
African heritage during Kwanzaa."
I believe more African-Americans spent this season reflecting on the
birth of Christ than some phony non-Christian holiday invented a few
decades ago by an FBI stooge. Kwanzaa is a holiday for white liberals,
not blacks.
It is a fact that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 by a black radical FBI
stooge, Ron Karenga, aka Dr. Maulana Karenga. Karenga was a founder of
United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers and a
dupe of the FBI.
In what was probably ultimately a foolish gamble, during the madness of
the '60s the FBI encouraged the most extreme black nationalist
organizations in order to discredit and split the left. The more
preposterous the organization, the better. Karenga's United Slaves was
perfect. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the Father
Gapon, stooge of the czarist police.
Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of the
'60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites. They did not seek armed
revolution. Those were the precepts of Karenga's United Slaves. United
Slaves were proto-fascists, walking around in dashikis, gunning down
Black Panthers and adopting invented "African" names. (That was a big
help to the black community: How many boys named "Jamal" currently sit
on death row?)
Whether Karenga was a willing dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear.
Curiously, in a 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga
matter-of-factly explained that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for
the "framed" murder of two whites included: "the FBI, the CIA, the
State
Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police Department" and so on. Karenga
should know about FBI infiltration. (He further noted that the evidence
against O.J. "was not strong enough to prohibit or eliminate
unreasonable doubt" -- an interesting standard of proof.)
In the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in the
'70s, Karenga was quick to criticize rumors that black radicals were
government-supported. When Nigerian newspapers claimed that some
American black radicals were CIA operatives, Karenga publicly denounced
the idea, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about the loyalties
and motives of Afro-Americans, including the widespread suspicion of
black Americans being CIA agents."
Now we know that the FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the Panthers
and United Slaves. In one barbarous outburst, Karenga's United Slaves
shot to death Black Panthers Al "Bunchy" Carter and Deputy Minister
John
Huggins on the UCLA campus. Karenga himself served time, a useful
stepping-stone for his current position as a black studies professor at
California State University at Long Beach.
Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black
racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa praise
collectivism in every possible arena of life -- economics, work,
personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to
improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village
to raise a police snitch.
When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy
underlying
Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism," he essentially explained that under
Kawaida, we also hate whites. While taking the "best of early Chinese
and Cuban socialism" -- which one assumes would exclude the forced
abortions, imprisonment for homosexuals and forced labor -- Kawaida
practitioners believe one's racial identity "determines life
conditions,
life chances and self-understanding." There's an inclusive philosophy
for you.
(Sing to "Jingle Bells")
Kwanzaa bells, dashikis sell
Whitey has to pay;
Burning, shooting, oh what fun
On this made-up holiday!
Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven
principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming
invention
of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap
victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged
captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the
SLA's revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa,
Nia,
Kuumba and Imani -- the same seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.
With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Bush is saluting the intellectual
sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of housewives and
police. He is saluting the founder of United Slaves, who were such
lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being sufficiently insane --
all with the FBI as their covert ally.
It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglika," and the
president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation
honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take
notice if that happened.
Kwanzaa was the result of a '60s psychosis grafted onto the black
community. Liberals have become so mesmerized by multicultural nonsense
that they have forgotten the real history of Kwanzaa and Karenga's
United Slaves -- the violence, the Marxism, the insanity. Most
absurdly,
for leftists anyway, is that they have forgotten the FBI's tacit
encouragement of this murderous black nationalist cult founded by the
father of Kwanzaa.
Now the "holiday" concocted by an FBI dupe is honored in a presidential
proclamation and public schools across the nation. Bush called Kwanzaa
a
holiday that promotes "unity" and "faith." Faith in what? Liberals'
unbounded capacity to respect any faith but Christianity?
A movement that started approximately 2,000 years before Kwanzaa leaps
well beyond merely "unity" and "faith" to proclaim that we are all
equal
before God. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor
female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). It was
practitioners of that faith who were at the forefront of the
abolitionist and civil rights movements. But that's all been washed
down
the memory hole, along with the true origins of Kwanzaa
President Bush's 2005 Kwanzaa message began with the patently absurd
statement: "African-Americans and people around the world reflect on
African heritage during Kwanzaa."
I believe more African-Americans spent this season reflecting on the
birth of Christ than some phony non-Christian holiday invented a few
decades ago by an FBI stooge. Kwanzaa is a holiday for white liberals,
not blacks.
It is a fact that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 by a black radical FBI
stooge, Ron Karenga, aka Dr. Maulana Karenga. Karenga was a founder of
United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers and a
dupe of the FBI.
In what was probably ultimately a foolish gamble, during the madness of
the '60s the FBI encouraged the most extreme black nationalist
organizations in order to discredit and split the left. The more
preposterous the organization, the better. Karenga's United Slaves was
perfect. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the Father
Gapon, stooge of the czarist police.
Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of the
'60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites. They did not seek armed
revolution. Those were the precepts of Karenga's United Slaves. United
Slaves were proto-fascists, walking around in dashikis, gunning down
Black Panthers and adopting invented "African" names. (That was a big
help to the black community: How many boys named "Jamal" currently sit
on death row?)
Whether Karenga was a willing dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear.
Curiously, in a 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga
matter-of-factly explained that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for
the "framed" murder of two whites included: "the FBI, the CIA, the
State
Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police Department" and so on. Karenga
should know about FBI infiltration. (He further noted that the evidence
against O.J. "was not strong enough to prohibit or eliminate
unreasonable doubt" -- an interesting standard of proof.)
In the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in the
'70s, Karenga was quick to criticize rumors that black radicals were
government-supported. When Nigerian newspapers claimed that some
American black radicals were CIA operatives, Karenga publicly denounced
the idea, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about the loyalties
and motives of Afro-Americans, including the widespread suspicion of
black Americans being CIA agents."
Now we know that the FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the Panthers
and United Slaves. In one barbarous outburst, Karenga's United Slaves
shot to death Black Panthers Al "Bunchy" Carter and Deputy Minister
John
Huggins on the UCLA campus. Karenga himself served time, a useful
stepping-stone for his current position as a black studies professor at
California State University at Long Beach.
Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black
racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa praise
collectivism in every possible arena of life -- economics, work,
personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to
improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village
to raise a police snitch.
When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy
underlying
Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism," he essentially explained that under
Kawaida, we also hate whites. While taking the "best of early Chinese
and Cuban socialism" -- which one assumes would exclude the forced
abortions, imprisonment for homosexuals and forced labor -- Kawaida
practitioners believe one's racial identity "determines life
conditions,
life chances and self-understanding." There's an inclusive philosophy
for you.
(Sing to "Jingle Bells")
Kwanzaa bells, dashikis sell
Whitey has to pay;
Burning, shooting, oh what fun
On this made-up holiday!
Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven
principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming
invention
of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap
victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged
captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the
SLA's revolutionary principles: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa,
Nia,
Kuumba and Imani -- the same seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.
With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Bush is saluting the intellectual
sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of housewives and
police. He is saluting the founder of United Slaves, who were such
lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being sufficiently insane --
all with the FBI as their covert ally.
It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglika," and the
president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation
honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take
notice if that happened.
Kwanzaa was the result of a '60s psychosis grafted onto the black
community. Liberals have become so mesmerized by multicultural nonsense
that they have forgotten the real history of Kwanzaa and Karenga's
United Slaves -- the violence, the Marxism, the insanity. Most
absurdly,
for leftists anyway, is that they have forgotten the FBI's tacit
encouragement of this murderous black nationalist cult founded by the
father of Kwanzaa.
Now the "holiday" concocted by an FBI dupe is honored in a presidential
proclamation and public schools across the nation. Bush called Kwanzaa
a
holiday that promotes "unity" and "faith." Faith in what? Liberals'
unbounded capacity to respect any faith but Christianity?
A movement that started approximately 2,000 years before Kwanzaa leaps
well beyond merely "unity" and "faith" to proclaim that we are all
equal
before God. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor
female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). It was
practitioners of that faith who were at the forefront of the
abolitionist and civil rights movements. But that's all been washed
down
the memory hole, along with the true origins of Kwanzaa
Dec 17th 2006, 8:02 pm
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
On 17/12/06 23:39, in article
[email protected] om, "Earl Evleth"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> by Dr. Earl Evleth PhD Posted Dec 28, 2005
Disclaimer
This is the 99th forgery using my name and a false address since
March of this year. I am also not the author of the article.
Other forgeries were done earlier using the name
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (59)
and
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (6)
[email protected] om, "Earl Evleth"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> by Dr. Earl Evleth PhD Posted Dec 28, 2005
Disclaimer
This is the 99th forgery using my name and a false address since
March of this year. I am also not the author of the article.
Other forgeries were done earlier using the name
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (59)
and
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (6)
Dec 17th 2006, 10:25 pm
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 17/12/06 23:39, in article
> [email protected] om, "Earl Evleth"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > by Dr. Earl Evleth PhD Posted Dec 28, 2005
> Disclaimer
> This is the 99th forgery using my name and a false address since
> March of this year. I am also not the author of the article.
> Other forgeries were done earlier using the name
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (59)
> and
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (6)
Apparently the odious "Piggosh Capitaliste" aka "Zubenlaugi" (sp?) aka
STEVEN BACH has idle hooves, as he is doing the devil's work!
--
Best
Greg
> On 17/12/06 23:39, in article
> [email protected] om, "Earl Evleth"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > by Dr. Earl Evleth PhD Posted Dec 28, 2005
> Disclaimer
> This is the 99th forgery using my name and a false address since
> March of this year. I am also not the author of the article.
> Other forgeries were done earlier using the name
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (59)
> and
> "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> (6)
Apparently the odious "Piggosh Capitaliste" aka "Zubenlaugi" (sp?) aka
STEVEN BACH has idle hooves, as he is doing the devil's work!
--
Best
Greg
Dec 18th 2006, 2:17 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
This one has a return address that says [email protected]. That be
YOU! pops
YOU! pops
Dec 18th 2006, 2:26 am
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On 18 Dec 2006 07:17:12 -0800, "Zubenelgenubi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>This one has a return address that says "Zubenelgenubi" <[email protected]> That be
>YOU! pops
Foxtrot Oscar
>This one has a return address that says "Zubenelgenubi" <[email protected]> That be
>YOU! pops
Foxtrot Oscar
Dec 18th 2006, 2:29 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
Dec 18th 2006, 2:48 am
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On 2006-12-18, Zubenalgenubi <[email protected]> wrote ...
> Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
A 'Condor' moment ...
Y.
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* See Jim Noles get comprehensively hammered over his idiotic
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a Yiddish word: http://minilien.fr/a0juqb
* See Nazi James Noles trip himself up by giving _two_ different
answers concerning his lies in the space of 12 seconds ...
http://minilien.fr/a0jtex
* One of the funniest ****-ups yet ...Nazi Noles says that 'English
is written in the English language' .. http://minilien.fr/a0jtjh...
<fx: *roars* with ****ing laughter!!!>
* Better and better... Nazi Noles shows that he can't use that expensive
copy of _The OED_ that he has, and that because the word 'clause' appears
in the entry for 'if', he thinks that that means that 'if' is a clause ...
go on, guys 'n' gals..ask him how a single word can be a clause ... better
yet...ask him to post the definition of 'clause' from his _OED_. He'll
rant and rave.. but he won't post it. Here is my _apocalyptic_ destruction
of him ... http://minilien.fr/a0ju6s
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* The AADP Spectrum: http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/...p_spectrum.gif
> Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
A 'Condor' moment ...
Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Jewish intellectual'
* http://jewish-and-proud-of-it.blogspot.com/
* See Jim Noles get comprehensively hammered over his idiotic
belief that 'kippa' is not a Hebrew word, and 'yarmulke' is not
a Yiddish word: http://minilien.fr/a0juqb
* See Nazi James Noles trip himself up by giving _two_ different
answers concerning his lies in the space of 12 seconds ...
http://minilien.fr/a0jtex
* One of the funniest ****-ups yet ...Nazi Noles says that 'English
is written in the English language' .. http://minilien.fr/a0jtjh...
<fx: *roars* with ****ing laughter!!!>
* Better and better... Nazi Noles shows that he can't use that expensive
copy of _The OED_ that he has, and that because the word 'clause' appears
in the entry for 'if', he thinks that that means that 'if' is a clause ...
go on, guys 'n' gals..ask him how a single word can be a clause ... better
yet...ask him to post the definition of 'clause' from his _OED_. He'll
rant and rave.. but he won't post it. Here is my _apocalyptic_ destruction
of him ... http://minilien.fr/a0ju6s
* The Official AADP FAQ: http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/dp/faq/
* The AADP Spectrum: http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/...p_spectrum.gif
Dec 18th 2006, 3:02 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been murdered in
the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for a tubby
man in a BMW.
>Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been murdered in
the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for a tubby
man in a BMW.
Dec 18th 2006, 3:10 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
> On 2006-12-18, Zubenalgenubi <[email protected]> wrote ...
> > Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
> Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
> A 'Condor' moment ...
Piggosh Bach leaves a putrid and SMELLY trail wherever he trots...plus
which his flesh is rancid with trichinosis!
--
Best
Greg
> On 2006-12-18, Zubenalgenubi <[email protected]> wrote ...
> > Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
> Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
> A 'Condor' moment ...
Piggosh Bach leaves a putrid and SMELLY trail wherever he trots...plus
which his flesh is rancid with trichinosis!
--
Best
Greg
Dec 18th 2006, 3:16 am
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On 18 Dec 2006 08:10:10 -0800, "Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
>> On 2006-12-18, Zubenalgenubi <[email protected]> wrote ...
>> > Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>> Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
>> A 'Condor' moment ...
>Piggosh Bach leaves a putrid and SMELLY trail wherever he trots...plus
>which his flesh is rancid with trichinosis!
kroket material?
--
Martin
wrote:
>Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
>> On 2006-12-18, Zubenalgenubi <[email protected]> wrote ...
>> > Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>> Stephen Bach replies to his own posts.
>> A 'Condor' moment ...
>Piggosh Bach leaves a putrid and SMELLY trail wherever he trots...plus
>which his flesh is rancid with trichinosis!
kroket material?
--
Martin
Dec 18th 2006, 3:21 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>
> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
> <[email protected]:
>
> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>
> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
> murdered in
> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for
> a tubby
> man in a BMW.
They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW driver.
[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>
> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
> <[email protected]:
>
> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>
> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
> murdered in
> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for
> a tubby
> man in a BMW.
They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW driver.
Dec 18th 2006, 3:38 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:21:30 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
>> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>>
>> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
>> <[email protected]:
>>
>> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>>
>> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
>> murdered in
>> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for
>> a tubby
>> man in a BMW.
>They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW driver.
Not aggressive enough or what?
The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday. No fair
trial for him.
--
Martin
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
>> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>>
>> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
>> <[email protected]:
>>
>> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>>
>> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
>> murdered in
>> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking for
>> a tubby
>> man in a BMW.
>They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW driver.
Not aggressive enough or what?
The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday. No fair
trial for him.
--
Martin
Dec 18th 2006, 5:09 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:38:44 +0100
>
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:21:30 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
> >> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
> >>
> >> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
> >> <[email protected]:
> >>
> >> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
> >>
> >> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
> >> murdered in
> >> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking
> > for >a tubby
> >> man in a BMW.
> >
> >They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW
> driver.
>
> Not aggressive enough or what?
Well, I was thinking that "supermarket worker" (which is how he's been
described) doesn't usually equate to BMW driver.
> The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday.
> No fair
> trial for him.
Indeed. Though (if it comes to that) my impression is that not-guilty
pleas are fairly unusual in these cases.
There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just read
online). This is the interviewer speaking:
"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich or
Norwich."
So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
(Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:38:44 +0100
>
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:21:30 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
> >> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
> >>
> >> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
> >> <[email protected]:
> >>
> >> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
> >>
> >> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
> >> murdered in
> >> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking
> > for >a tubby
> >> man in a BMW.
> >
> >They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW
> driver.
>
> Not aggressive enough or what?
Well, I was thinking that "supermarket worker" (which is how he's been
described) doesn't usually equate to BMW driver.
> The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday.
> No fair
> trial for him.
Indeed. Though (if it comes to that) my impression is that not-guilty
pleas are fairly unusual in these cases.
There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just read
online). This is the interviewer speaking:
"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich or
Norwich."
So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
Dec 18th 2006, 5:24 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:09:17 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>(Martin) wrote:
>> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:38:44 +0100
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:21:30 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
>> >
>> >> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
>> >> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>> >>
>> >> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
>> >> <[email protected]:
>> >>
>> >> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>> >>
>> >> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
>> >> murdered in
>> >> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking
>> > for >a tubby
>> >> man in a BMW.
>> >
>> >They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW
>> driver.
>>
>> Not aggressive enough or what?
>Well, I was thinking that "supermarket worker" (which is how he's been
>described) doesn't usually equate to BMW driver.
I'm sure plenty of supermarket workers have old BMW bangers.
>> The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday.
>> No fair
>> trial for him.
>Indeed. Though (if it comes to that) my impression is that not-guilty
>pleas are fairly unusual in these cases.
>There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just read
>online). This is the interviewer speaking:
>"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich or
>Norwich."
>So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
I wondered what he meant too. Do they all have Polish accents like they do in
these parts?
--
Martin
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>(Martin) wrote:
>> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:38:44 +0100
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:21:30 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] (Zubenalgenubi) wrote:
>> >
>> >> *From:* "Zubenalgenubi" <[email protected]>
>> >> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:02:33 +0100
>> >>
>> >> On 18 Dec 2006 07:29:42 -0800, "Zubenalgenubi"
>> >> <[email protected]:
>> >>
>> >> >Well no shit! THAT'S BECUSE I SENT IT Idiot!
>> >>
>> >> The press is full of accounts of the five prostitutes that have been
>> >> murdered in
>> >> the Suffolk town of Ipswich. Apparently the police are now looking
>> > for >a tubby
>> >> man in a BMW.
>> >
>> >They made an arrest this morning and he doesn't sound like a BMW
>> driver.
>>
>> Not aggressive enough or what?
>Well, I was thinking that "supermarket worker" (which is how he's been
>described) doesn't usually equate to BMW driver.
I'm sure plenty of supermarket workers have old BMW bangers.
>> The Sunday Mirror printed all the details including a photo yesterday.
>> No fair
>> trial for him.
>Indeed. Though (if it comes to that) my impression is that not-guilty
>pleas are fairly unusual in these cases.
>There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just read
>online). This is the interviewer speaking:
>"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich or
>Norwich."
>So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
I wondered what he meant too. Do they all have Polish accents like they do in
these parts?
--
Martin
Dec 18th 2006, 5:33 am
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Re: Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:24:40 +0100
>
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:09:17 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just
> read >online). This is the interviewer speaking:
> >
> >"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich
> or >Norwich."
> >
> >So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
>
> I wondered what he meant too. Do they all have Polish accents like they
> do in
> these parts?
There are distinctive Norfolk and Suffolk accents (and they're not the
same), but they're far from universal - even in the deeper reaches
of the countryside, you'll hear many more people talking fairly bland,
non-accented English than ooh-aaring all over the place.
Mind you, I wonder whether many of the journalists reporting this story
have actually been into Ipswich itself at all (police HQ is on the
outskirts). There are lots of "quiet market towns" in Suffolk, to quote
one story, but I have to admit those aren't the first words that come to
mind when I think of Ipswich! "Scrappy old port," maybe...
(Martin) wrote:
> *From:* Martin <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:24:40 +0100
>
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:09:17 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >There's the oddest line in the Sunday Mirror interview (which I just
> read >online). This is the interviewer speaking:
> >
> >"You have an English accent, not the same as other people from Ipswich
> or >Norwich."
> >
> >So what kind of accent does he think they have?!
>
> I wondered what he meant too. Do they all have Polish accents like they
> do in
> these parts?
There are distinctive Norfolk and Suffolk accents (and they're not the
same), but they're far from universal - even in the deeper reaches
of the countryside, you'll hear many more people talking fairly bland,
non-accented English than ooh-aaring all over the place.
Mind you, I wonder whether many of the journalists reporting this story
have actually been into Ipswich itself at all (police HQ is on the
outskirts). There are lots of "quiet market towns" in Suffolk, to quote
one story, but I have to admit those aren't the first words that come to
mind when I think of Ipswich! "Scrappy old port," maybe...
