international drivers license?
Jun 1st 2003, 6:04 am
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Re: international drivers license?
"Pete" wrote in message
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> The truck driver said 'used' to get a few copies at a time. That
> could refer to quite a few years ago.
>
> ----
> Pete
Yes it could, anytime up to 31-05-2003 in fact.
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> The truck driver said 'used' to get a few copies at a time. That
> could refer to quite a few years ago.
>
> ----
> Pete
Yes it could, anytime up to 31-05-2003 in fact.
Jun 1st 2003, 7:46 pm
#32
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Re: international drivers license?
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:33:12 +0100, Harvey Van Sickle
wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:33:20 GMT, Mason Barge wrote
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:35:20 GMT, "Nicola Marzolino"
>> wrote:
>>>> You must carry your national license also, as the international
>>>> license is no good without it.
> -snip-
>>> That's because there is no such thing as "an international
>>> license". It is a translation of your license, nothing more
>>> nothing less. In effect, the other country is permitting you to
>>> drive with your home license.
>> Well, it is actually a bit "more", as it is an "official"
>> translation and will be recognizable as such to some highway
>> patrol officer. Italy certainly requires an official translation
>> and I don't know how else one would easily satisfy an Italian
>> constable. Since it is one of two documents required by Italian
>> law of a foreign motorist, I think all this quibbling about
>> semantics is a bit silly. You must have a valid foreign driver's
>> license and an International Driving Permit to be a "licensed"
>> driver in some countries.
> I think this depends on citizenship, though: the rules are different for
> licences issued within the EU. My UK licence states that it is a
> "European Communities Model", but the only translated words are "Driving
> Licence" on the front (which is repeated in 9 languages). Other than
> that, it's entirely in English.
> I suspect that Italy can demand an International Driving Permit only from
> nationals of non-EU countries, but that they must accept EU national
> licences (in the correct form, of course) without demanding an additional
> document.
That's because the EU DLs are fairly standardised in the 2 forms (the pink
one and the credit card ones).
The policeman will know which line is your name and which groups of vehicle
you're allowed to drive. You don't need an IDP if you have an EU licence.
Tim.
wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:33:20 GMT, Mason Barge wrote
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:35:20 GMT, "Nicola Marzolino"
>> wrote:
>>>> You must carry your national license also, as the international
>>>> license is no good without it.
> -snip-
>>> That's because there is no such thing as "an international
>>> license". It is a translation of your license, nothing more
>>> nothing less. In effect, the other country is permitting you to
>>> drive with your home license.
>> Well, it is actually a bit "more", as it is an "official"
>> translation and will be recognizable as such to some highway
>> patrol officer. Italy certainly requires an official translation
>> and I don't know how else one would easily satisfy an Italian
>> constable. Since it is one of two documents required by Italian
>> law of a foreign motorist, I think all this quibbling about
>> semantics is a bit silly. You must have a valid foreign driver's
>> license and an International Driving Permit to be a "licensed"
>> driver in some countries.
> I think this depends on citizenship, though: the rules are different for
> licences issued within the EU. My UK licence states that it is a
> "European Communities Model", but the only translated words are "Driving
> Licence" on the front (which is repeated in 9 languages). Other than
> that, it's entirely in English.
> I suspect that Italy can demand an International Driving Permit only from
> nationals of non-EU countries, but that they must accept EU national
> licences (in the correct form, of course) without demanding an additional
> document.
That's because the EU DLs are fairly standardised in the 2 forms (the pink
one and the credit card ones).
The policeman will know which line is your name and which groups of vehicle
you're allowed to drive. You don't need an IDP if you have an EU licence.
Tim.
Jun 1st 2003, 8:42 pm
#33
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Re: international drivers license?
Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
>
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:33:20 GMT, Mason Barge wrote
> > On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:35:20 GMT, "Nicola Marzolino"
> > wrote:
>
> >>> You must carry your national license also, as the international
> >>> license is no good without it.
>
> -snip-
>
> >> That's because there is no such thing as "an international
> >> license". It is a translation of your license, nothing more
> >> nothing less. In effect, the other country is permitting you to
> >> drive with your home license.
>
> > Well, it is actually a bit "more", as it is an "official"
> > translation and will be recognizable as such to some highway
> > patrol officer. Italy certainly requires an official translation
> > and I don't know how else one would easily satisfy an Italian
> > constable. Since it is one of two documents required by Italian
> > law of a foreign motorist, I think all this quibbling about
> > semantics is a bit silly. You must have a valid foreign driver's
> > license and an International Driving Permit to be a "licensed"
> > driver in some countries.
>
> I think this depends on citizenship, though: the rules are different
> for licences issued within the EU. My UK licence states that it is a
> "European Communities Model", but the only translated words are
> "Driving Licence" on the front (which is repeated in 9 languages).
> Other than that, it's entirely in English.
>
> I suspect that Italy can demand an International Driving Permit only
> from nationals of non-EU countries, but that they must accept EU
> national licences (in the correct form, of course) without demanding an
> additional document.
That is correct. I once posted on this newsgroup the list of countries
that require an IDP to drive in Italy. There are three categories of
countries: the first has a license that conforms to the EU model and
therefore doesn't require an IDP; the second requires an IDP; the third
(very small) group is not recognized even with an IDP.
Barbara
>
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:33:20 GMT, Mason Barge wrote
> > On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:35:20 GMT, "Nicola Marzolino"
> > wrote:
>
> >>> You must carry your national license also, as the international
> >>> license is no good without it.
>
> -snip-
>
> >> That's because there is no such thing as "an international
> >> license". It is a translation of your license, nothing more
> >> nothing less. In effect, the other country is permitting you to
> >> drive with your home license.
>
> > Well, it is actually a bit "more", as it is an "official"
> > translation and will be recognizable as such to some highway
> > patrol officer. Italy certainly requires an official translation
> > and I don't know how else one would easily satisfy an Italian
> > constable. Since it is one of two documents required by Italian
> > law of a foreign motorist, I think all this quibbling about
> > semantics is a bit silly. You must have a valid foreign driver's
> > license and an International Driving Permit to be a "licensed"
> > driver in some countries.
>
> I think this depends on citizenship, though: the rules are different
> for licences issued within the EU. My UK licence states that it is a
> "European Communities Model", but the only translated words are
> "Driving Licence" on the front (which is repeated in 9 languages).
> Other than that, it's entirely in English.
>
> I suspect that Italy can demand an International Driving Permit only
> from nationals of non-EU countries, but that they must accept EU
> national licences (in the correct form, of course) without demanding an
> additional document.
That is correct. I once posted on this newsgroup the list of countries
that require an IDP to drive in Italy. There are three categories of
countries: the first has a license that conforms to the EU model and
therefore doesn't require an IDP; the second requires an IDP; the third
(very small) group is not recognized even with an IDP.
Barbara
