Nitram

On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:52:22 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:44:35 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram <[email protected]> arranged
    >some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:38:58 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
    > ... wrote:
    > ...
    > ... >On Tue, 24 May 2005 18:12:12 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, nitram <[email protected]> arranged
    > ... >some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... >
    > ... > ... On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:22:55 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
    > ... > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... >
    > ... > ... ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    > ... > ... >news:[email protected] roups.com...
    > ... > ... >> There's an excellent calculator on the French tax website which is,
    > ... > ... >> from memory, something like impots.gouv.fr
    > ... > ... >>
    > ... > ... >> The calculation depends also on your family size.
    > ... > ... >>
    > ... > ... >
    > ... > ... >I was always told that size didn't matter.
    > ... > ... >
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... Don't listen to Mgada, make up your own mind. :-)
    > ... >
    > ... >Don't drop your trousers, Martin - the ladies have made their mind up already.
    > ...
    > ... Which ladies?
    >Those you can't see, for you are blind.

Pew?

Andy Pandy

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > There's an excellent calculator on the French tax website which is,
    > from memory, something like impots.gouv.fr
    > The calculation depends also on your family size.

Very much so, the French system is very family friendly, unlike the UK system.

IIRC you get an allowance per adult, plus half an allowance for the first two
children, plus a full allowance for every extra child (eg a 2 adult 2 child
family would get 3 allowances).

You can then multiply the bands by the number of allowances you get, so a family
of 2 adults/2 children would pay 0% on 13,002, 6.83% up to 25,572, etc.

--
Andy

Emilia

nitram wrote:
    > On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:52 +0100, [email protected]
    > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>[]
    >>>It's worth paying a tax consultant to do it the first time.
    >>Feh- I've never used an accountant!
    >>I did my taxes so 'expertly' this year that I've ended up overpaying for
    >>the second year in a row. Still, better than the other way around.
    >
    >
    > I employed a tax consultant for the first time this year. With a lot
    > of work he saved me tax that just about covered his fee.

Yes. Hire a professional. In most cases it will be for your benefit.

Nitram

On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:37:49 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:52 +0100, [email protected]
    >> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>[]
    >>>>It's worth paying a tax consultant to do it the first time.
    >>>Feh- I've never used an accountant!
    >>>I did my taxes so 'expertly' this year that I've ended up overpaying for
    >>>the second year in a row. Still, better than the other way around.
    >>
    >>
    >> I employed a tax consultant for the first time this year. With a lot
    >> of work he saved me tax that just about covered his fee.
    >Yes. Hire a professional. In most cases it will be for your benefit.

You are an accountant. :-)

Emilia

nitram wrote:
    > On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:37:49 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>nitram wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:52 +0100, [email protected]
    >>>(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    >>>wrote:
    >>>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>[]
    >>>>>It's worth paying a tax consultant to do it the first time.
    >>>>Feh- I've never used an accountant!
    >>>>I did my taxes so 'expertly' this year that I've ended up overpaying for
    >>>>the second year in a row. Still, better than the other way around.
    >>>I employed a tax consultant for the first time this year. With a lot
    >>>of work he saved me tax that just about covered his fee.
    >>Yes. Hire a professional. In most cases it will be for your benefit.
    >
    >
    > You are an accountant. :-)

not me. but i highly recommend them! ;)

Nitram

On Wed, 25 May 2005 21:44:05 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:37:49 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>nitram wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:52 +0100, [email protected]
    >>>>(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>[]
    >>>>>>It's worth paying a tax consultant to do it the first time.
    >>>>>Feh- I've never used an accountant!
    >>>>>I did my taxes so 'expertly' this year that I've ended up overpaying for
    >>>>>the second year in a row. Still, better than the other way around.
    >>>>I employed a tax consultant for the first time this year. With a lot
    >>>>of work he saved me tax that just about covered his fee.
    >>>Yes. Hire a professional. In most cases it will be for your benefit.
    >>
    >>
    >> You are an accountant. :-)
    >not me. but i highly recommend them! ;)

You are on a commission and/or married to an accountant? :-)

Emilia

nitram wrote:
    > On Wed, 25 May 2005 21:44:05 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>nitram wrote:
    >>>On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:37:49 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>>nitram wrote:
    >>>>>On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:52 +0100, [email protected]
    >>>>>(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>[]
    >>>>>>>It's worth paying a tax consultant to do it the first time.
    >>>>>>Feh- I've never used an accountant!
    >>>>>>I did my taxes so 'expertly' this year that I've ended up overpaying for
    >>>>>>the second year in a row. Still, better than the other way around.
    >>>>>I employed a tax consultant for the first time this year. With a lot
    >>>>>of work he saved me tax that just about covered his fee.
    >>>>Yes. Hire a professional. In most cases it will be for your benefit.
    >>>You are an accountant. :-)
    >>not me. but i highly recommend them! ;)
    >
    >
    > You are on a commission and/or married to an accountant? :-)

No comment. My PR agent doesn't allow it. ;)

Nitram

On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:30:21 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
wrote:


    >> You are on a commission and/or married to an accountant? :-)
    >No comment. My PR agent doesn't allow it. ;)

I got a bill from my late father's solicitor today. On the bill was a
charge for use of her fax machine to receive a reminder that she
hadn't billed my father and another charge for reading the fax.

JohnT

"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:30:21 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >>> You are on a commission and/or married to an accountant? :-)
    >>No comment. My PR agent doesn't allow it. ;)
    > I got a bill from my late father's solicitor today. On the bill was a
    > charge for use of her fax machine to receive a reminder that she
    > hadn't billed my father and another charge for reading the fax.

Please pay me EUR ?10 for the costs involved in reading your e-mail.

JohnT

Nitram

On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:26:01 +0100, "JohnT"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:30:21 +0200, emilia <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>>> You are on a commission and/or married to an accountant? :-)
    >>>No comment. My PR agent doesn't allow it. ;)
    >> I got a bill from my late father's solicitor today. On the bill was a
    >> charge for use of her fax machine to receive a reminder that she
    >> hadn't billed my father and another charge for reading the fax.
    >Please pay me EUR ?10 for the costs involved in reading your e-mail.

More!

Esandman

So... can anyone confirm or deny the above? Someone here must
understand french taxation...

A related question - on savings interest I think you have the option of
subjecting it all to the above social + income tax; or you can elect to
take a fixed rate 16% interest tax + 10% social tax.

This means the net tax on savings or un-earned income could be 27%.

Is this true?

Sounds more attractive than 40% in the UK...

Andy.

Martin

On 6 Jun 2005 07:00:08 -0700, "esandman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >So... can anyone confirm or deny the above? Someone here must
    >understand french taxation...

The only thing above is your e-mail header.
--
Martin

Jeremyrh Geo

esandman:

    >So... can anyone confirm or deny the above? Someone here must understand french taxation...


The calculator I mentioned is here:

http://www2.finances.gouv.fr/calcul_...ifie/index.htm

It's not all that difficult if you just need to consider salaries.

Earl Evleth

On 6/06/05 16:26, in article
[email protected] om,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > esandman:
    >
    >> So... can anyone confirm or deny the above? Someone here must understand
    >> french taxation...
    >
    >
    > The calculator I mentioned is here:
    >
    > http://www2.finances.gouv.fr/calcul_...ifie/index.htm
    >
    > It's not all that difficult if you just need to consider salaries.
    >

I just checked it out, I did not realize that French income taxes were
cheaper in the French Caribbean. On a small income, 25,000 the tax drops
from about 700 to 300 euros, on 50,000 a year, from 4700 to 3400. For
a married couple.

Obviously the situation becomes more complicated if one has other income
sources. I have an accountant do both my French and US returns, but
that is another issue. I never paid much attention to trying to figure it
out myself so I had not realized one get a special break in the "islands".

There is no indication they give a special deal for residents of French
Polynesia.



Earl

Martin

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:53:35 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 6/06/05 16:26, in article
    >[email protected]. com,
    >"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> esandman:
    >>
    >>> So... can anyone confirm or deny the above? Someone here must understand
    >>> french taxation...
    >>
    >>
    >> The calculator I mentioned is here:
    >>
    >> http://www2.finances.gouv.fr/calcul_...ifie/index.htm
    >>
    >> It's not all that difficult if you just need to consider salaries.
    >>
    >I just checked it out, I did not realize that French income taxes were
    >cheaper in the French Caribbean. On a small income, 25,000 the tax drops
    >from about 700 to 300 euros, on 50,000 a year, from 4700 to 3400. For
    >a married couple.
    >Obviously the situation becomes more complicated if one has other income
    >sources. I have an accountant do both my French and US returns, but
    >that is another issue. I never paid much attention to trying to figure it
    >out myself so I had not realized one get a special break in the "islands".
    >There is no indication they give a special deal for residents of French
    >Polynesia.

What about in French Guiana?
--
Martin