How to tell UK from S. Africa accent?
Feb 11th 2003, 5:21 am
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How to tell UK from S. Africa accent?
How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
sound so similar.
Thanks,
Brett
sound so similar.
Thanks,
Brett
Feb 11th 2003, 6:20 am
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Re: How to tell UK from S. Africa accent?
Watch the upper lip. If it don't move, it's British.
"Brett" wrote in message
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
"Brett" wrote in message
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
Feb 11th 2003, 6:28 am
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[email protected] (Brett) wrote:
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
> They
> sound so similar.
Difficult to explain without phonetic symbols! But one obvious difference
is the pronunciation of the soft 'a' -- South Africans say "Effrica" for
"Africa".
The SA accent is, you're right, quite similar to the very upper-class
British accent you hear in movies of the 30s and 40s. But very very few
Brits talk that way these days.
[email protected] (Brett) wrote:
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
> They
> sound so similar.
Difficult to explain without phonetic symbols! But one obvious difference
is the pronunciation of the soft 'a' -- South Africans say "Effrica" for
"Africa".
The SA accent is, you're right, quite similar to the very upper-class
British accent you hear in movies of the 30s and 40s. But very very few
Brits talk that way these days.
Feb 11th 2003, 6:44 am
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Brett wrote:
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped. The
vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped. The
vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
miguel
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Feb 11th 2003, 8:32 am
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> Brett wrote:
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> > sound so similar.
> Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped. The
> vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
> miguel
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Can you give some examples?
Thanks,
Brett
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> Brett wrote:
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> > sound so similar.
> Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped. The
> vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
> miguel
> --
> Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Can you give some examples?
Thanks,
Brett
Feb 11th 2003, 8:33 am
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> In article ,
> [email protected] (Brett) wrote:
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
> > They
> > sound so similar.
> Difficult to explain without phonetic symbols! But one obvious difference
> is the pronunciation of the soft 'a' -- South Africans say "Effrica" for
> "Africa".
> The SA accent is, you're right, quite similar to the very upper-class
> British accent you hear in movies of the 30s and 40s. But very very few
> Brits talk that way these days.
How do the Brits pronounce Africa?
Any other examples?
Thanks,
Brett
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> In article ,
> [email protected] (Brett) wrote:
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
> > They
> > sound so similar.
> Difficult to explain without phonetic symbols! But one obvious difference
> is the pronunciation of the soft 'a' -- South Africans say "Effrica" for
> "Africa".
> The SA accent is, you're right, quite similar to the very upper-class
> British accent you hear in movies of the 30s and 40s. But very very few
> Brits talk that way these days.
How do the Brits pronounce Africa?
Any other examples?
Thanks,
Brett
Feb 11th 2003, 8:50 am
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> "Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
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>> Brett wrote:
>> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African
>> > accents? They sound so similar.
>> Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped.
>> The vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
>> miguel
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>> http://travel.u.nu
>
> Can you give some examples?
Internet radio
have a listen here: http://www.channelafrica.org/english/dateline.html
then compare with http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ which of all the BBC
stations has more UK regional accents
the channelafrica bulletins can be downloaded for playback later if you
have a slow connection - you will need RealPlayer
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> "Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
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>> Brett wrote:
>> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African
>> > accents? They sound so similar.
>> Wow, I don't find them similar at all. South African is very clipped.
>> The vowel sounds are almost New Zealish, but much less broad.
>> miguel
>> --
>> Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world:
>> http://travel.u.nu
>
> Can you give some examples?
Internet radio
have a listen here: http://www.channelafrica.org/english/dateline.html
then compare with http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ which of all the BBC
stations has more UK regional accents
the channelafrica bulletins can be downloaded for playback later if you
have a slow connection - you will need RealPlayer
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BMW R1150GS
Feb 11th 2003, 12:30 pm
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Brett wrote:
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
I think SA accent sounds most like the NZ one.
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
I think SA accent sounds most like the NZ one.
Feb 11th 2003, 1:10 pm
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
Depunds on whare they are frum in Seth Efrika. People frum around Jo'burg
have a mech stronger eccent, whilst those from Kiptown sound a but more
Brettish.
If they respond to the work 'lekker', they are South African (or Dutch).
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> sound so similar.
> Thanks,
> Brett
Depunds on whare they are frum in Seth Efrika. People frum around Jo'burg
have a mech stronger eccent, whilst those from Kiptown sound a but more
Brettish.
If they respond to the work 'lekker', they are South African (or Dutch).
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DFM
Feb 11th 2003, 1:42 pm
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The easiest way to distinguish whether Brit or Seth Efrican is to ask a question requiring a "yes" or "no" answer. If the answer comes back as "yar" you're speaking to a Seth Efrican. Other giveaways:
- the conflicting use of "yar, no", or even "yes, no" in a response,
- "kuk" as a description of something that isn't appealing,
If a Seth Efrican comes from Durban I can understand how there might be confusion since an Anglo-saxon from Durbs has relatively little exposure to Afrikaans to corrupt an otherwise "English" accent
- even then, I would confuse that person more with an Australian or New Zealand accent.
Those hailing from Cape Town or Johannesburg tend to have far more gutteral accents and are easily distinguishable from your average English accent.
- the conflicting use of "yar, no", or even "yes, no" in a response,
- "kuk" as a description of something that isn't appealing,
If a Seth Efrican comes from Durban I can understand how there might be confusion since an Anglo-saxon from Durbs has relatively little exposure to Afrikaans to corrupt an otherwise "English" accent
- even then, I would confuse that person more with an Australian or New Zealand accent.Those hailing from Cape Town or Johannesburg tend to have far more gutteral accents and are easily distinguishable from your average English accent.
Feb 11th 2003, 4:39 pm
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Re: How to tell UK from S. Africa accent?
Brett wrote:
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
Be one or the other, yourself? (They many sound similar to us, in the
U.S., but I don't imagine folks in the UK or South Africa have much
difficulty.)
>
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
Be one or the other, yourself? (They many sound similar to us, in the
U.S., but I don't imagine folks in the UK or South Africa have much
difficulty.)
Feb 11th 2003, 8:39 pm
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"Brett" writes:
> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
There are hundreds of UK accents, wildly different from each other.
Each city and each region has a whole collection of accents, never
mind the different countries. I imagine that South African accents
are rather widely variable either, given the number of languages
spoken there!
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> How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents? They
> sound so similar.
There are hundreds of UK accents, wildly different from each other.
Each city and each region has a whole collection of accents, never
mind the different countries. I imagine that South African accents
are rather widely variable either, given the number of languages
spoken there!
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-- Chris.
Feb 11th 2003, 8:52 pm
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"Brett" writes:
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> > sound so similar.
Well, it's easier for me to understand a South African Boer than a Paisley
Glaswegian!
Surreyman
> > How can some one tell the difference in UK and South African accents?
They
> > sound so similar.
Well, it's easier for me to understand a South African Boer than a Paisley
Glaswegian!
Surreyman
Feb 11th 2003, 9:01 pm
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Goose writes:
> The easiest way to distinguish whether Brit or Seth Efrican is to ask a
> question requiring a "yes" or "no" answer. If the answer comes back as
> "yar" you're speaking to a Seth Efrican.
How do you pronounce that "yar"? Do you pronounce the R?
Younger people with upper class UK accents would tend to indicate
agreement in an informal setting by saying "yaaah".
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> The easiest way to distinguish whether Brit or Seth Efrican is to ask a
> question requiring a "yes" or "no" answer. If the answer comes back as
> "yar" you're speaking to a Seth Efrican.
How do you pronounce that "yar"? Do you pronounce the R?
Younger people with upper class UK accents would tend to indicate
agreement in an informal setting by saying "yaaah".
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-- Chris.
Feb 11th 2003, 11:41 pm
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Re: How to tell UK from S. Africa accent?
How do you pronounce that "yar"? Do you pronounce the R?
Younger people with upper class UK accents would tend to indicate
agreement in an informal setting by saying "yaaah".
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I agree.
"Yar" is pronounced as you read it (with a very slight "r" at the end). The word is actaully "ya", an Afrikaans word, derived from Dutch, but which is used commonly by English and Afrikaans speaking South Africans alike.
Younger people with upper class UK accents would tend to indicate
agreement in an informal setting by saying "yaaah".
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-- Chris. [/QUOTE]
I agree.
"Yar" is pronounced as you read it (with a very slight "r" at the end). The word is actaully "ya", an Afrikaans word, derived from Dutch, but which is used commonly by English and Afrikaans speaking South Africans alike.
