How to choose a destination
Oct 6th 2006, 4:54 am
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Re: How to choose a destination
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> That looks like a heavy programme for four lazy days in November. I'm
>> thinking of just one day trip outside the city (using public transport
>> -- I'm not very interested in hiring a car) , and the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
>I think it's a very good idea. We spent a couple of nights there (after
>4 in Vienna), but only really one full day in Bratislava- that is enough
>time to see the interesting parts of the city. It's an easy daytrip of
>course by train.
I had hoped to do it by boat, but it seems that the hydrofoil service
is seasonal, and we will be a week too late.
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the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> That looks like a heavy programme for four lazy days in November. I'm
>> thinking of just one day trip outside the city (using public transport
>> -- I'm not very interested in hiring a car) , and the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
>I think it's a very good idea. We spent a couple of nights there (after
>4 in Vienna), but only really one full day in Bratislava- that is enough
>time to see the interesting parts of the city. It's an easy daytrip of
>course by train.
I had hoped to do it by boat, but it seems that the hydrofoil service
is seasonal, and we will be a week too late.
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Oct 6th 2006, 5:12 am
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Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>
> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> That looks like a heavy programme for four lazy days in November. I'm
> >> thinking of just one day trip outside the city (using public transport
> >> -- I'm not very interested in hiring a car) , and the recent
> >> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
> >> trip. Is that a good idea?
> >
> >I think it's a very good idea. We spent a couple of nights there (after
> >4 in Vienna), but only really one full day in Bratislava- that is enough
> >time to see the interesting parts of the city. It's an easy daytrip of
> >course by train.
>
> I had hoped to do it by boat, but it seems that the hydrofoil service
> is seasonal, and we will be a week too late.
We inquired about tickets a few days before and were told there were
none- and that was in July! I would have wanted to do it that way too-
the train journey is unremarkable IIRC.
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> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>
> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> That looks like a heavy programme for four lazy days in November. I'm
> >> thinking of just one day trip outside the city (using public transport
> >> -- I'm not very interested in hiring a car) , and the recent
> >> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
> >> trip. Is that a good idea?
> >
> >I think it's a very good idea. We spent a couple of nights there (after
> >4 in Vienna), but only really one full day in Bratislava- that is enough
> >time to see the interesting parts of the city. It's an easy daytrip of
> >course by train.
>
> I had hoped to do it by boat, but it seems that the hydrofoil service
> is seasonal, and we will be a week too late.
We inquired about tickets a few days before and were told there were
none- and that was in July! I would have wanted to do it that way too-
the train journey is unremarkable IIRC.
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Oct 6th 2006, 4:17 pm
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Iceman wrote:
> Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:18:11 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Herself and I are scheduled to visit Vienna next month, mainly because
> > >she has for a long time harboured a wish to go there. I have been
> > >there before (some time ago, before Herself became a major part of my
> > >life) and in my mind Vienna is "done". It's one of those places that I
> > >think it sufficient to visit once.
> >
> Vienna has huge historical and cultural significance, a world-class art
> museum, one of the most beautiful palaces in the world, and lots of
> great architecture.
It also has some beautiful parks, has superb food and cultural events,
and is within reach of some of the most beautiful countryside in the
world.
Check out www.wien.info
To answer your question, you identify the place you want to go to, and
find the cheapest way to get there. If you are interested in history,
select a World Heritage Site that is a city (those are usually the most
rewarding). If you like sports, check your calendar and select your
event like that. If you want to party, go to a happening city that you
have not been to before.
Selecting a "cheap place to fly to" is counterproductive, because your
additional costs (hotels, meals, transport) may, and usually do, add
up. Note that budget airlines fly to secondary airports from which it
is expensive and time consuming to reach the city.
R
> Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:18:11 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Herself and I are scheduled to visit Vienna next month, mainly because
> > >she has for a long time harboured a wish to go there. I have been
> > >there before (some time ago, before Herself became a major part of my
> > >life) and in my mind Vienna is "done". It's one of those places that I
> > >think it sufficient to visit once.
> >
> Vienna has huge historical and cultural significance, a world-class art
> museum, one of the most beautiful palaces in the world, and lots of
> great architecture.
It also has some beautiful parks, has superb food and cultural events,
and is within reach of some of the most beautiful countryside in the
world.
Check out www.wien.info
To answer your question, you identify the place you want to go to, and
find the cheapest way to get there. If you are interested in history,
select a World Heritage Site that is a city (those are usually the most
rewarding). If you like sports, check your calendar and select your
event like that. If you want to party, go to a happening city that you
have not been to before.
Selecting a "cheap place to fly to" is counterproductive, because your
additional costs (hotels, meals, transport) may, and usually do, add
up. Note that budget airlines fly to secondary airports from which it
is expensive and time consuming to reach the city.
R
Oct 7th 2006, 8:57 pm
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Re: How to choose a destination
Hello;
Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
please contact me.. thank you...
Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
please contact me.. thank you...
Oct 7th 2006, 10:47 pm
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"mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello;
>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>please contact me.. thank you...
You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
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>Hello;
>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>please contact me.. thank you...
You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
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Oct 7th 2006, 11:13 pm
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:47:12 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hello;
>>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>>please contact me.. thank you...
>
>You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
I would put Istanbul high on your list of destinations.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>"mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hello;
>>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>>please contact me.. thank you...
>
>You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
I would put Istanbul high on your list of destinations.
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Oct 7th 2006, 11:47 pm
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Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:47:12 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello;
>>>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>>>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>>>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>>>please contact me.. thank you...
>>
>>You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
>
>I would put Istanbul high on your list of destinations.
>
Done it, and will probably do it again.
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>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:47:12 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello;
>>>Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
>>>warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
>>>still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
>>>please contact me.. thank you...
>>
>>You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
>
>I would put Istanbul high on your list of destinations.
>
Done it, and will probably do it again.
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Oct 8th 2006, 9:15 pm
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ohh noo;
you misunderstood me, just a help.. because im tour operator and helped
so many people who wanted to Turkey.. They didn't know anythings and
had no suggestion about Turkey and i explained everything them and made
them live all beauties here friendly..
if you desire Dalyan - Caunos as destination for your holiday, i can
help you all needs ( flight tickets, accomodation, entertainments,
water sports, daily boat trips, yacht trips, scuba diving, dinner...
etc. )
also for yacht trip visit this www.mericyacht.com
for diving www.mericdiving.com
Thanks and Regards;
Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> "mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hello;
> >Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
> >warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
> >still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
> >please contact me.. thank you...
> You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
> --
> PB
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you misunderstood me, just a help.. because im tour operator and helped
so many people who wanted to Turkey.. They didn't know anythings and
had no suggestion about Turkey and i explained everything them and made
them live all beauties here friendly..
if you desire Dalyan - Caunos as destination for your holiday, i can
help you all needs ( flight tickets, accomodation, entertainments,
water sports, daily boat trips, yacht trips, scuba diving, dinner...
etc. )
also for yacht trip visit this www.mericyacht.com
for diving www.mericdiving.com
Thanks and Regards;
Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> "mericyacht" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hello;
> >Why don't you think Turkey Dalyan - Caunos for your holiday.. Here is
> >warm and little also very beautiful, famous town all over the world and
> >still so many tourists are coming back to back here.. If you think,
> >please contact me.. thank you...
> You have made it very unlikely that I will go there.
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Oct 8th 2006, 9:18 pm
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"mericyacht" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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> ohh noo;
> you misunderstood me, just a help.. because im tour operator and helped
> so many people who wanted to Turkey.. They didn't know anythings and
> had no suggestion about Turkey and i explained everything them and made
Usenet is not for spam though. Moreover, Turkey is in Arabia not in Europe.
rte is for Europe. so, bugger off.
viestiss�:[email protected] egroups.com...
> ohh noo;
> you misunderstood me, just a help.. because im tour operator and helped
> so many people who wanted to Turkey.. They didn't know anythings and
> had no suggestion about Turkey and i explained everything them and made
Usenet is not for spam though. Moreover, Turkey is in Arabia not in Europe.
rte is for Europe. so, bugger off.
Oct 8th 2006, 9:45 pm
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You BUGGER OFF... You are not humanist.. So you must GOOO..
Oct 9th 2006, 12:20 am
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> the recent
> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
> trip. Is that a good idea?
IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
tickets.
Patrick
> the recent
> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
> trip. Is that a good idea?
IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
tickets.
Patrick
Oct 9th 2006, 2:39 am
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> Padraig Breathnach wrote:
>> the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
> IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
> countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
> to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
> Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
> day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
> overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
> been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
> variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
> The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
> October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
> tickets.
> Patrick
I'll defend Bratislava :-) You wouldn't want a week there, but it's
certainly worth a day trip fromVienna, just for the contrast if nothing
else. Especially if you've never been in a Slavic country. The castle is
nice, there's a few interesting museums, and when I went, the prices on
crystal were incredibly cheap.
Sarah
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> Padraig Breathnach wrote:
>> the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
> IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
> countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
> to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
> Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
> day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
> overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
> been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
> variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
> The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
> October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
> tickets.
> Patrick
I'll defend Bratislava :-) You wouldn't want a week there, but it's
certainly worth a day trip fromVienna, just for the contrast if nothing
else. Especially if you've never been in a Slavic country. The castle is
nice, there's a few interesting museums, and when I went, the prices on
crystal were incredibly cheap.
Sarah
Oct 9th 2006, 2:56 am
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Sarah Banick wrote:
> I'll defend Bratislava :-) You wouldn't want a week there, but it's
> certainly worth a day trip fromVienna, just for the contrast if nothing
> else. Especially if you've never been in a Slavic country. The castle is
> nice, there's a few interesting museums, and when I went, the prices on
> crystal were incredibly cheap.
Yes, I'm probably being overly harsh due to a very bad experience
there. Interesting point about "if you've never been in a Slavic
country", and I'd say that's true; I've travelled widely through a lot
of the Slavic countries, so was comparing Bratislava with these, and I
think it definitely suffers in comparison.
Can't comment on the castle as it, like everything else, was shut on
the day I was there! <g>
Tangentially, I've noticed it's a common policy in European cities for
many attractions to shut on Mondays. With the Ryanair long weekend
effect, I wonder if many other tourists get caught out by this, and end
up having to fill in a Monday looking at shops rather than at tourist
attractions.
Patrick
> I'll defend Bratislava :-) You wouldn't want a week there, but it's
> certainly worth a day trip fromVienna, just for the contrast if nothing
> else. Especially if you've never been in a Slavic country. The castle is
> nice, there's a few interesting museums, and when I went, the prices on
> crystal were incredibly cheap.
Yes, I'm probably being overly harsh due to a very bad experience
there. Interesting point about "if you've never been in a Slavic
country", and I'd say that's true; I've travelled widely through a lot
of the Slavic countries, so was comparing Bratislava with these, and I
think it definitely suffers in comparison.
Can't comment on the castle as it, like everything else, was shut on
the day I was there! <g>
Tangentially, I've noticed it's a common policy in European cities for
many attractions to shut on Mondays. With the Ryanair long weekend
effect, I wonder if many other tourists get caught out by this, and end
up having to fill in a Monday looking at shops rather than at tourist
attractions.
Patrick
Oct 9th 2006, 2:59 am
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[email protected] wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach wrote:
>> the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
>IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
>countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
>to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
>Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
>day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
>overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
>been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
>variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
Sorry that you were disappointed on your birthday.
>The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
>October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
>tickets.
They have introduced a winter schedule -- Saturdays and Sundays until
mid-December. It's a bit pricey, at €25 each way. I am wondering about
using a train or bus one direction, but I have not yet found out what
the fares on those are like.
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>Padraig Breathnach wrote:
>> the recent
>> discussions here on Bratislava suggested to me that it might be a good
>> trip. Is that a good idea?
>IMHO Bratislava is the biggest disappointment of the eight new EU
>countries' capitals. Small, down-at-heel and nothing of great interest
>to see. Although I have to admit that the day I was there was a
>Monday, EVERYTHING was shut and it poured it down with rain the entire
>day, despite being mid-August. And it was my birthday as well...so
>overall not a good impression of the place! Even if the museums had
>been open, they were of the "Archaeological Museum of Slovakia"
>variety, i.e. 500 rooms full of indistinguishable bits of broken rock.
Sorry that you were disappointed on your birthday.
>The hydrofoil down the Danube from Vienna to Bratislava is April to
>October only. We had no trouble just walking up on the day and getting
>tickets.
They have introduced a winter schedule -- Saturdays and Sundays until
mid-December. It's a bit pricey, at €25 each way. I am wondering about
using a train or bus one direction, but I have not yet found out what
the fares on those are like.
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Oct 9th 2006, 4:47 am
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Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
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> They have introduced a winter schedule -- Saturdays and Sundays until
> mid-December. It's a bit pricey, at �25 each way. I am wondering about
> using a train or bus one direction, but I have not yet found out what
> the fares on those are like.
The train was about 13 euro single- that was just turning up at the
station in Vienna and asking for one- maybe there's a way of getting one
cheaper- and a day return might be cheaper- don't know. �25 for the
hydrofoil trip doesn't seem extortionate for that method of travel. That
is, it's a bit of a 'luxury' way of travelling that route.
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[]
> They have introduced a winter schedule -- Saturdays and Sundays until
> mid-December. It's a bit pricey, at �25 each way. I am wondering about
> using a train or bus one direction, but I have not yet found out what
> the fares on those are like.
The train was about 13 euro single- that was just turning up at the
station in Vienna and asking for one- maybe there's a way of getting one
cheaper- and a day return might be cheaper- don't know. �25 for the
hydrofoil trip doesn't seem extortionate for that method of travel. That
is, it's a bit of a 'luxury' way of travelling that route.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://www.davidhorne.net/pictures.html http://soundjunction.org
