Petter

    > I've read that Norwegians performed medical experiments on half-German
    > babies in the wake of WW2.

True

    > Danes were once the world's most prolific slave
    > traders, who supplied most of the slaves to the Americas.

False

Petter

    > > > Are there parts of Europe where storekeepers might decide
    > > > to charge inflated "American prices" or whatever?
    > > Not generally. It doesn't help to bring chocolate or nylons, either.
    > What is meant by the phrase "chocolate or nylons"?
It seems like you think Europe (it's not a country, it's a continent) is as
poor as Bolivia. With a small peace of historical knowledge you would know
the phrase.

//Petter

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mistissini wrote:
    >
    > "Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Yes, you said that before. Not much to go on.
    >
    > Maybe not in the European imagination. I've had people from other countries
    > suggest plenty of things, when I gave the same parameters.
    >
You have given no information on what you actually like, only what you
dislike.
You have not been specific on what part of the continent of Europe (which
contains many very different cultures), you might be visiting.
You are most likely a troll.

Mxsmanic

mistissini writes:

    > Maybe not in the European imagination. I've had people from other countries
    > suggest plenty of things, when I gave the same parameters.

Then perhaps you should visit those other countries instead.

    > Maybe in the European imagination, there is no correlation.

See above. It would make sense to go where others are able to make
suggestions and see correlations.

    > Thing is, people who spend a lot of time in front of a computer studying
    > math or science tend to be a very international crowd.

Not at all. Such people tend to never even leave their hometowns. They
take little or no interest in the rest of the world, since the topics
that interest them do not require travel.

    > It is difficult to find a workplace or university anywhere
    > in the world, where math/science departments are not filled
    > with foreigners.

Most such departments are filled with natives, as one might logically
expect, although the educational institutions of some countries attract
large foreign enrollments, if they have good reputations.

    > I was going by your words, which made the options sound so limited.

I don't recall describing any options.

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Mxsmanic

mistissini writes:

    > Why, so you can trash them? I won't fall into that trap.

It's interesting that you assume I would trash them, and consider it a
trap. As I've said, your hostility is patent.

    > Opposite of my experience. Fat people eat whatever food
    > comes their way.

Yes, generally. But when they are trying to lose weight (or claiming to
try to lose weight), they count calories (or claim to count calories).

    > I do not hesitate to call stupid people stupid. I do not call all people
    > stupid. You accused me of calling all people stupid.

There was no accusation involved. I observed that if your statement
were not universally applicable it could not be relevant in context.
That is, either it was universally applicable, or it was irrelevant.

    > They were heart-to-heart accounts with people I knew well.

Then why did they occur over the Internet?

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Mxsmanic

mistissini writes:

    > Yes, so it contradicts Petter's claim that "Internet cafes is very popular
    > in countries where the people can't afford a
    > PC and a proper bandwith at home."

No, it says nothing about his claim, which might be independently true
or untrue.

    > So are Europeans more afraid of the internet?

Some are, some aren't. Some of the worst paranoia is found in the
United States. In Europe it's more a matter of indifference than fear.

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Mistissini

"Petter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > > > Are there parts of Europe where storekeepers might decide
    > > > > to charge inflated "American prices" or whatever?
    > > > Not generally. It doesn't help to bring chocolate or nylons, either.
    > > What is meant by the phrase "chocolate or nylons"?
    > It seems like you think Europe (it's not a country, it's a continent) is
as
    > poor as Bolivia. With a small peace of historical knowledge you would know
    > the phrase.

I guess that would be like "chewing gum" to Japanese. Everyone knows they
are not poor, but there is a generation of older Japanese that was given gum
by US troops. It's not good to talk about "vaccination" in some countries
either. It's good to know the exact form of their complexes, as I have
never heard of most of them.

Mxsmanic

mistissini writes:

    > No, I would still find out about different aspects of it.

You can do that without leaving home.

    > The hostility on the thread, the knee-jerk accusations of American
    > arrogance, aren't an inferiority complex?

Where?

    > People with low self esteem may perceive my actions as "hostility".

They are not alone.

    > So I guess it's like talking to a Mexican. Don't ask what he does for a
    > living, since that would put him on the spot.

Why?

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Mistissini

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > mistissini writes:
    > > Why, so you can trash them? I won't fall into that trap.
    > It's interesting that you assume I would trash them, and consider it a
    > trap.

With your attitude? I'm not that gullible.


    > > Opposite of my experience. Fat people eat whatever food
    > > comes their way.
    > Yes, generally. But when they are trying to lose weight (or claiming to
    > try to lose weight), they count calories (or claim to count calories).

I don't count calories, do you?


    > > I do not hesitate to call stupid people stupid. I do not call all
people
    > > stupid. You accused me of calling all people stupid.
    > There was no accusation involved. I observed that if your statement
    > were not universally applicable it could not be relevant in context.
    > That is, either it was universally applicable, or it was irrelevant.

You'll have to show me the exact context of all the former statements if you
wish to support your statement.


    > > They were heart-to-heart accounts with people I knew well.
    > Then why did they occur over the Internet?

What makes you think they only occurred over the internet?

Tim

"mistissini" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > If you are carrying a large racial chip on your shoulder, as so many
    > > Americans do, I suggest you remove it before visiting Europe, as it
    > > tends to irritate them when Americans insist on seeing racism behind
    > > every behavior.
    > I do not have problems in the USA, but if people there think I am a gypsy
or
    > an Arab, then there could be trouble.

People seem to make this distinction based upon the way that a
person dresses, not on the colour of their skin.

tim

S Viemeister

Martin wrote:
    >
    > All supermarkets carry healthy food and vegetables. I don't know anyone
    > who has eaten a deep-fried snickers bar.
    >
I met an American tourist in June, who claims she had a deep-fried Mars bar
in Scotland - in a tourist area. You know, the sort of place where you can
find 'Hey Jimmie' bunnets.

Having shopped for fruits and vegetables in both the US and the UK, I've
been very pleased with the overall quality and variety in the UK, even in
the far north of Scotland.

Mistissini

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > mistissini writes:
    > > Maybe not in the European imagination. I've had people from other
countries
    > > suggest plenty of things, when I gave the same parameters.
    > Then perhaps you should visit those other countries instead.

Already have.


    > > Maybe in the European imagination, there is no correlation.
    > See above. It would make sense to go where others are able to make
    > suggestions and see correlations.

Do you know where I could meet more intelligent Europeans that have good
ideas?


    > > Thing is, people who spend a lot of time in front of a computer studying
    > > math or science tend to be a very international crowd.
    > Not at all. Such people tend to never even leave their hometowns. They
    > take little or no interest in the rest of the world, since the topics
    > that interest them do not require travel.

Not my experience.


    > > It is difficult to find a workplace or university anywhere
    > > in the world, where math/science departments are not filled
    > > with foreigners.
    > Most such departments are filled with natives, as one might logically
    > expect, although the educational institutions of some countries attract
    > large foreign enrollments, if they have good reputations.

I have never seen a department filled with natives. Care to name some?


    > > I was going by your words, which made the options sound so limited.
    > I don't recall describing any options.

Have you described any options at all? No, just that I should not come to
Europe.

Mistissini

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > mistissini writes:
    > > Yes, so it contradicts Petter's claim that "Internet cafes is very
popular
    > > in countries where the people can't afford a
    > > PC and a proper bandwith at home."
    > No, it says nothing about his claim, which might be independently true
    > or untrue.

Petter said "Internet cafes is very popular in countries where the people
can't afford a
PC and a proper bandwith at home. There is no connection between how
creative or enlightened people in the country are. It depends on how poor
they are."

You said "Affordability isn't the only factor to consider. Broadband access
is
cheap in France, and PCs are not expensive, but relatively few French
people own a PC, and Internet cafés do well because so few people invest
in home connections (despite their low cost and ready availability)."

Which contradicts his statement.

Mistissini

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > mistissini writes:
    > > No, I would still find out about different aspects of it.
    > You can do that without leaving home.

I have found out new things from leaving home.


    > > The hostility on the thread, the knee-jerk accusations of American
    > > arrogance, aren't an inferiority complex?
    > Where?

See above.


    > > People with low self esteem may perceive my actions as "hostility".
    > They are not alone.

Indeed, people with low self esteem are not alone.

    > > So I guess it's like talking to a Mexican. Don't ask what he does for a
    > > living, since that would put him on the spot.
    > Why?

You tell me, you're the one who made up the claim that Europeans don't like
to ask what you do for a living.

Martin

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > mistissini writes:
    > > So I guess it's like talking to a Mexican. Don't ask what he does
for a
    > > living, since that would put him on the spot.
    > Why?

Personally, I would stop feeding the troll if I were you.

Martin.