Getting Married in Rome
Aug 2nd 2005, 6:57 am
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Getting Married in Rome
My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
Anyone got any experience of this?
I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
tour company.
Anyone got any experience of this?
I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
tour company.
Aug 2nd 2005, 9:21 am
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"Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
> Anyone got any experience of this?
No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a Catholic
ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first port of call
is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry in the Vatican
Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal gasworks, they will
need to comply with requirements regarding banns and the demands of Italian
secular law. The parish priest will be able to provide advice on the former
aspect, at least.
Alan Harrison
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> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
> Anyone got any experience of this?
No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a Catholic
ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first port of call
is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry in the Vatican
Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal gasworks, they will
need to comply with requirements regarding banns and the demands of Italian
secular law. The parish priest will be able to provide advice on the former
aspect, at least.
Alan Harrison
Aug 2nd 2005, 9:36 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
"ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome
>> next year. Anyone got any experience of this?
Just make sure he knows that one day, she'll rip his heart from
his chest, throw it in the dirt and stomp it into bits. But otherwise,
sorry, I've no expererience for you. :-) =R=
>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome
>> next year. Anyone got any experience of this?
Just make sure he knows that one day, she'll rip his heart from
his chest, throw it in the dirt and stomp it into bits. But otherwise,
sorry, I've no expererience for you. :-) =R=
Aug 2nd 2005, 9:58 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
"ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>> Anyone got any experience of this?
> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
I thought Vatican City was an independent sovereign state, and not part of
Italy?
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> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>> Anyone got any experience of this?
> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
I thought Vatican City was an independent sovereign state, and not part of
Italy?
Aug 2nd 2005, 10:44 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:57:17 +0100, "Martin Harran"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>Anyone got any experience of this?
>I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
>they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
>prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
>'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
>have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
>tour company.
Why not just get married at the registry office, and spend the
honeymoon holidaying in a third world country that both needs the
cash, and will treat you really well?
Is that un-Christian or something?
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>Anyone got any experience of this?
>I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
>they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
>prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
>'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
>have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
>tour company.
Why not just get married at the registry office, and spend the
honeymoon holidaying in a third world country that both needs the
cash, and will treat you really well?
Is that un-Christian or something?
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Aug 2nd 2005, 10:55 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
DDT Filled Mormons <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:57:17 +0100, "Martin Harran"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>>Anyone got any experience of this?
>>I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
>>they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
>>prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
>>'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>>I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
>>have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
>>tour company.
>Why not just get married at the registry office, and spend the
>honeymoon holidaying in a third world country that both needs the
>cash, and will treat you really well?
>Is that un-Christian or something?
Well, the registry office bit is, if the couple are practising
Catholics.
Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
€40,000 on a one-day event.
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>On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:57:17 +0100, "Martin Harran"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>>Anyone got any experience of this?
>>I know he Irish College is the traditional venue for people from Ireland but
>>they don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which my son and his fianceé would
>>prefer, although from what I can see, weddings in the Vatican itself are
>>'public' - i.e. multiple couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>>I'd be particularly interested in hearing any experiences from people who
>>have arranged a wedding themselves as opposed to taking a package from a
>>tour company.
>Why not just get married at the registry office, and spend the
>honeymoon holidaying in a third world country that both needs the
>cash, and will treat you really well?
>Is that un-Christian or something?
Well, the registry office bit is, if the couple are practising
Catholics.
Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
€40,000 on a one-day event.
--
PB
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Aug 2nd 2005, 11:34 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
Martin*Harran wrote:
>My son and his fianceé are thinking of
>getting married in Rome next year.
>Anyone got any experience of this?
>I know he Irish College is the traditional
>venue for people from Ireland but they
>don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which
>my son and his fianceé would prefer,
>although from what I can see, weddings in
>the Vatican itself are 'public' - i.e. multiple
>couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>I'd be particularly interested in hearing
>any experiences from people who have
>arranged a wedding themselves as
>opposed to taking a package from a tour
>company.
Try www.fodors.com/forums/ On the 'Europe' forum use the search for past
posts. Try marriage AND rome and click-on 'Italy' also try marriage AND
italy. There have been a few posts about marriages in Italy that might
be helpful.
If you register you can also post that question.
Also try www.slowtrav.com for info.
I don't know if you will find any actual Catholic Church wedding info
vs non-church weddings but you should at least find info on the other
aspects of a wedding (photos, reception, legal, etc).
Regards, Walter
..And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...
>My son and his fianceé are thinking of
>getting married in Rome next year.
>Anyone got any experience of this?
>I know he Irish College is the traditional
>venue for people from Ireland but they
>don't offer weddings in the Vatican, which
>my son and his fianceé would prefer,
>although from what I can see, weddings in
>the Vatican itself are 'public' - i.e. multiple
>couples - and they're not too keen on that.
>I'd be particularly interested in hearing
>any experiences from people who have
>arranged a wedding themselves as
>opposed to taking a package from a tour
>company.
Try www.fodors.com/forums/ On the 'Europe' forum use the search for past
posts. Try marriage AND rome and click-on 'Italy' also try marriage AND
italy. There have been a few posts about marriages in Italy that might
be helpful.
If you register you can also post that question.
Also try www.slowtrav.com for info.
I don't know if you will find any actual Catholic Church wedding info
vs non-church weddings but you should at least find info on the other
aspects of a wedding (photos, reception, legal, etc).
Regards, Walter
..And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...
Aug 2nd 2005, 7:59 pm
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>¤40,000 on a one-day event.
Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
want to get divorced.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>¤40,000 on a one-day event.
Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
want to get divorced.
--
Martin
Aug 2nd 2005, 8:20 pm
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
"Clydeside Red" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I thought Vatican City was an independent sovereign state, and not part of
> Italy?
It is indeed. The ecclesiastical bit of my earlier post, regarding banns,
certainly applies. Regarding secular law, I don't know the precise
situation - hence my advice to the OP that his son and potential
daughter-in-law should seek competent advice. However, since the likelihood
is that the majority of persons wishing to marry in one or other of the
churches or chapels within the Vatican City State would be Italian citizens,
I should think that it is virtually certain that couples wishing to marry
there would need to be free to marry in Italian law. (I have in mind the
possibility of someone previously married in an Italian civil ceremony, or a
convert previously married in, say, a protestant or Jewish rite.)
Alan Harrison
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> I thought Vatican City was an independent sovereign state, and not part of
> Italy?
It is indeed. The ecclesiastical bit of my earlier post, regarding banns,
certainly applies. Regarding secular law, I don't know the precise
situation - hence my advice to the OP that his son and potential
daughter-in-law should seek competent advice. However, since the likelihood
is that the majority of persons wishing to marry in one or other of the
churches or chapels within the Vatican City State would be Italian citizens,
I should think that it is virtually certain that couples wishing to marry
there would need to be free to marry in Italian law. (I have in mind the
possibility of someone previously married in an Italian civil ceremony, or a
convert previously married in, say, a protestant or Jewish rite.)
Alan Harrison
Aug 2nd 2005, 8:32 pm
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
"ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>> Anyone got any experience of this?
> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
I should have said that the religious/civil requirements aren't an issue,
they've checked that out - it's the organisational aspects they're more
interested in hearing about
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> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next year.
>> Anyone got any experience of this?
> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
I should have said that the religious/civil requirements aren't an issue,
they've checked that out - it's the organisational aspects they're more
interested in hearing about
Aug 2nd 2005, 11:19 pm
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"Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next
>>> year.
>>> Anyone got any experience of this?
>> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
>> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
>> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
>> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
>> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
>> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
>> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
> I should have said that the religious/civil requirements aren't an issue,
> they've checked that out - it's the organisational aspects they're more
> interested in hearing about
I think Italy conforms to canon law on marriage, not the other way around.
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> "ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Martin Harran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> My son and his fianceé are thinking of getting married in Rome next
>>> year.
>>> Anyone got any experience of this?
>> No, speaking as a lifelong bachelor! However, since it is clearly a
>> Catholic ceremony envisaged by your son, I would suggest that the first
>> port of call is his (or his fiancee's) parish priest. Whether they marry
>> in the Vatican Basilica or a modern "barn" behind the Rome municipal
>> gasworks, they will need to comply with requirements regarding banns and
>> the demands of Italian secular law. The parish priest will be able to
>> provide advice on the former aspect, at least.
> I should have said that the religious/civil requirements aren't an issue,
> they've checked that out - it's the organisational aspects they're more
> interested in hearing about
I think Italy conforms to canon law on marriage, not the other way around.
Aug 3rd 2005, 12:54 am
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Martin a écrit :
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
> want to get divorced.
Which are?
G;
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
> want to get divorced.
Which are?
G;
Aug 3rd 2005, 1:13 am
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On 3 Aug 2005 05:54:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin a écrit :
>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
>> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
>> want to get divorced.
>Which are?
Rather obvious. In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of
divorce.
If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
divorce will drag on forever.
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Martin
>Martin a écrit :
>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
>> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
>> want to get divorced.
>Which are?
Rather obvious. In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of
divorce.
If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
divorce will drag on forever.
--
Martin
Aug 3rd 2005, 1:24 am
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Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> On 3 Aug 2005 05:54:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
> >> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
> >> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
> >> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
> >> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
> >>
> >> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
> >> want to get divorced.
> >
> >Which are?
>
> Rather obvious.
Not to me, certainly.
>In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of divorce.
But it doesn't follow that you have to ask their permission. A
passing German page remarks:
"""
The place at which the marriage was entered into does not
automatically determine which court will have jurisdiction over the
case or which law will be applied to the divorce proceedings. Both
these issues have to be determined in each individual case.
According to section 606 of the German Code of Civil Procedure, German
courts have jurisdiction over matrimonial matters, inter alia, when
one spouse is a German national or, if both are foreign nationals, if
they are both habitually resident in Germany. This jurisdiction is not
exclusive, i.e. it may also be possible to get divorced abroad and,
under certain conditions, to have such a divorce recognized in Germany
(cf. "Recognition of a foreign divorce" below)
"""
<http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/laenderinfos/konsulat/ehe_html>
> If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
> divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
> divorce will drag on forever.
So far as I can tell, permanent UK residents would also need to obtain
a divorce in the UK, regardless of where they were married. (It
seems, in fact, scarcely imaginable that it could be otherwise, but I
am certainly not a lawyer.)
<http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/laws___policy/policy_instructions/nis/c-d/divorce.textonly.html>
Des
> On 3 Aug 2005 05:54:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
> >> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
> >> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
> >> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
> >> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
> >>
> >> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
> >> want to get divorced.
> >
> >Which are?
>
> Rather obvious.
Not to me, certainly.
>In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of divorce.
But it doesn't follow that you have to ask their permission. A
passing German page remarks:
"""
The place at which the marriage was entered into does not
automatically determine which court will have jurisdiction over the
case or which law will be applied to the divorce proceedings. Both
these issues have to be determined in each individual case.
According to section 606 of the German Code of Civil Procedure, German
courts have jurisdiction over matrimonial matters, inter alia, when
one spouse is a German national or, if both are foreign nationals, if
they are both habitually resident in Germany. This jurisdiction is not
exclusive, i.e. it may also be possible to get divorced abroad and,
under certain conditions, to have such a divorce recognized in Germany
(cf. "Recognition of a foreign divorce" below)
"""
<http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/laenderinfos/konsulat/ehe_html>
> If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
> divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
> divorce will drag on forever.
So far as I can tell, permanent UK residents would also need to obtain
a divorce in the UK, regardless of where they were married. (It
seems, in fact, scarcely imaginable that it could be otherwise, but I
am certainly not a lawyer.)
<http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/laws___policy/policy_instructions/nis/c-d/divorce.textonly.html>
Des
Aug 3rd 2005, 2:02 am
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Re: Getting Married in Rome
On 03 Aug 2005 14:24:43 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 3 Aug 2005 05:54:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>> >> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>> >> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>> >> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>> >> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
>> >>
>> >> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
>> >> want to get divorced.
>> >
>> >Which are?
>>
>> Rather obvious.
>Not to me, certainly.
>>In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of divorce.
>But it doesn't follow that you have to ask their permission. A
>passing German page remarks:
How does that apply to a non German?
>"""
>The place at which the marriage was entered into does not
>automatically determine which court will have jurisdiction over the
>case or which law will be applied to the divorce proceedings. Both
>these issues have to be determined in each individual case.
Determination will involve lawyers and will not be cheap by
definition.
>According to section 606 of the German Code of Civil Procedure, German
>courts have jurisdiction over matrimonial matters, inter alia, when
>one spouse is a German national or, if both are foreign nationals, if
>they are both habitually resident in Germany. This jurisdiction is not
>exclusive, i.e. it may also be possible to get divorced abroad and,
>under certain conditions, to have such a divorce recognized in Germany
>(cf. "Recognition of a foreign divorce" below)
>"""
><http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/laenderinfos/konsulat/ehe_html>
>> If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
>> divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
>> divorce will drag on forever.
>So far as I can tell, permanent UK residents would also need to obtain
>a divorce in the UK, regardless of where they were married. (It
>seems, in fact, scarcely imaginable that it could be otherwise, but I
>am certainly not a lawyer.)
><http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/laws___policy/policy_instructions/nis/c-d/divorce.textonly.html>
The link doesn't open is it broken?
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wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 3 Aug 2005 05:54:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:55:53 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Some Irish couples choose a quiet wedding abroad rather than the
>> >> >present-day version of a traditional Irish wedding, which requires
>> >> >that 200-400 people be invited, fed, watered, and entertained -- very
>> >> >stressful for some, and very expensive. Many couples spend sums like
>> >> >¤40,000 on a one-day event.
>> >>
>> >> Couples marrying abroad should consider the implications if ever they
>> >> want to get divorced.
>> >
>> >Which are?
>>
>> Rather obvious.
>Not to me, certainly.
>>In the case of the Vatican, they don't approve of divorce.
>But it doesn't follow that you have to ask their permission. A
>passing German page remarks:
How does that apply to a non German?
>"""
>The place at which the marriage was entered into does not
>automatically determine which court will have jurisdiction over the
>case or which law will be applied to the divorce proceedings. Both
>these issues have to be determined in each individual case.
Determination will involve lawyers and will not be cheap by
definition.
>According to section 606 of the German Code of Civil Procedure, German
>courts have jurisdiction over matrimonial matters, inter alia, when
>one spouse is a German national or, if both are foreign nationals, if
>they are both habitually resident in Germany. This jurisdiction is not
>exclusive, i.e. it may also be possible to get divorced abroad and,
>under certain conditions, to have such a divorce recognized in Germany
>(cf. "Recognition of a foreign divorce" below)
>"""
><http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/laenderinfos/konsulat/ehe_html>
>> If you are not resident in the place you marry, when you want to
>> divorce, in general legal fees will cost you an arm and a leg and the
>> divorce will drag on forever.
>So far as I can tell, permanent UK residents would also need to obtain
>a divorce in the UK, regardless of where they were married. (It
>seems, in fact, scarcely imaginable that it could be otherwise, but I
>am certainly not a lawyer.)
><http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/laws___policy/policy_instructions/nis/c-d/divorce.textonly.html>
The link doesn't open is it broken?
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Martin
