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Germany in first week of April??

Germany in first week of April??

Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:04 am
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Tim.....
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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:49:40 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:51:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>><[email protected]>
>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>>
>> ... On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:44:59 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ...
>> ... >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:01 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, B
>> Vaughan<[email protected]>
>> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>> ... >
>> ... > ... I would guess that fewer than half the hotels in Rome charge
>> more in
>> ... > ... high season than at other times. In Florence, even fewer. (You
>> could
>> ... > ... argue that Florence has no low season.) In Rome, July and
>> August are
>> ... > ... considered low season, for those hotels with variable rates.
>> ... > ...
>> ... > ... For what it's worth, I just returned to a hotel in Rome where I
>> had
>> ... > ... spent a few days last August. The price was exactly the same.
>> ... > ...
>> ... > ... In mountain or seaside vacation areas in Italy, there are
>> sometimes
>> ... > ... other restrictions in high season, such as a half-board
>> requirement,
>> ... > ... or a one-week minimum stay.
>> ... >
>> ... >Pick a travel brochure and check the room prices.
>> ...
>> ... Paid the same price all the year round in hotels I used in Rome and
>> Northern
>> ... Italy.
>>
>>Not true for the rest of the world.
>
> I paid the same all the year round in Germany too.

Depends where you go.

In the obvious tourist places, the summer rate will be 50% more
than the winter rate.

But in un-touristy cities that usually rely on business trade,
August will be the cheapest month.

And that's ignoring the 'messe' rates, that others have commented
upon.

tim




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Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:07 am
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"Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mike:
>
>> In general we like
>> exploring. Not big on fancy expensive restaurants. I love the
>> atmosphere of unique cities. I'm also big into photography.
>
> I believe - in contrast to others in this thread who suggest you should
> visit Italy - that Germany _is_ something for you.

I think that he should visit Italy because he want's to go in April,
not because in principle, he should prefer Italy over Germany.

tim
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:07 am
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"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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> Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It is just easier to say than my "vacation
>> overseas" or my "vacation to UK and Europe".
>
> Europe isn't overseas. It's clearly on this side of any ocean.
>
Germany is overseas.
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:14 am
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tim.....:
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> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] t...
> > Mike:
> >
> >> In general we like
> >> exploring. Not big on fancy expensive restaurants. I love the
> >> atmosphere of unique cities. I'm also big into photography.
> >
> > I believe - in contrast to others in this thread who suggest you should
> > visit Italy - that Germany _is_ something for you.
>
> I think that he should visit Italy because he want's to go in April,
> not because in principle, he should prefer Italy over Germany.

Fair enough, Tim.
Actually, we're talking a 30-ish young American couple on their first
Europe tour. I don't think they really can go wrong, can they?
One can "explore" and shoot pictures in almost every bigger and smaller
city in Europe (Prague, anyone?) so it's also a matter of weather - which
was the question in the first place.

Italy would do. So would Barcelona or even Andalusian cities (great for
pictures).

And I still wonder why Americans at that age would leave out Amsterdam.

--
Erick

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Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:24 am
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"Markku Grönroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> viestissÀ:1ht2voh.29sl8k17dclwmN%maennig.0701@cri cetus.com...
>> Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It is just easier to say than my "vacation
>>> overseas" or my "vacation to UK and Europe".
>>
>> Europe isn't overseas. It's clearly on this side of any ocean.
>>
> Germany is overseas.

Tis for me too.

tim
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:30 am
  #51  
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Mike <[email protected]> writes:


>Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
>river area?

no. Typically there is no snow, although it is not 100% impossible
(but would be pretty exceptional).
What do you mean by cold?

>Was planning my first European vacation for late May, but work schedules
>either means this needs to be done either first week of April or last week
>of June. I know weather in June would be nicer, but plane tickets seem 3x
>as expensive and I'm told to avoid the "student season".

true. April is quite nice for travelling. We aware that things might
be somewhat crowded around the Easter weekend, but that should hold true
for all of Europe.

>Am I better off going to someplace like Italy instead where the weather is
>milder?

if the whether is your top priority, Italy is of course a saver bet (but
again, even there snow cannot 100% be rules out).

>I've never been to Europe. Was planning on 4-nights in London, 4-nights
>Paris, 1 week in Germany.

sounds good to me. You can easily travel from Paris to Cologne by train,
maybe doing a stopover in Brussels.
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:38 am
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Magda schrieb:

> ... Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
> ... river area?
> ...
> ... Was planning my first European vacation for late May, but work schedules
> ... either means this needs to be done either first week of April or last week
> ... of June. I know weather in June would be nicer, but plane tickets seem 3x
> ... as expensive and I'm told to avoid the "student season".
>
> You *should* avoid it. Not only the plane tickets, but every hotel (and maybe restaurant
> as well) will be costing the Earth by then, too.

June? Still no German sumer hilidays, IIRC. Should check for Easter
holidays, btw.

Regards, ULF
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:47 am
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Erick T . Barkhuis
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Mike:
>
> Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
> river area?

"Rhine river area"!!! I missed that completely!

It's a wonderful area. Very scenic, from Bonn southwards.
But...may I suggest you wait until you have some time for a trip in the
second half of September for that part of your tour? Then, the area is at
its best. Also, it's a great area for more senior travellers.
Wine markets, Rhine river boat rides and all! My favorite fall trip would
be five days of Rhine river (last days of September) combined with 4-5
days Barcelona (first week of October).

--
Erick
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:49 am
  #54  
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Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> >> Was planning on 4-nights in London,
> >
> > Discussions about UK being Europe or not are still pending.
> >
>
> Sorry for my ignorance!

You weren't wrong. I'm trusting the poster was having a laugh. The UK is
in Europe. There are some places that people may disagree about being
included in Europe (e.g. Cyprus, Iceland etc.) but the UK isn't one of
them. And don't confuse it with politics. In the UK (and elsewhere) it's
often used to refer to the EU. So, someone in the UK wanting to be out
of the EU might say that they 'don't want to be in (or part of) Europe.'

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Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:52 am
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:07:08 -0000, in rec.travel.europe, "tim....."
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
... "Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected] t...
... > Mike:
... >
... >> In general we like
... >> exploring. Not big on fancy expensive restaurants. I love the
... >> atmosphere of unique cities. I'm also big into photography.
... >
... > I believe - in contrast to others in this thread who suggest you should
... > visit Italy - that Germany _is_ something for you.
...
... I think that he should visit Italy because he want's to go

He want's to go's to Italy's? Are you's sure's?
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 6:53 am
  #56  
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tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Markku Gr�nroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ...
> >
> > "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> > viestiss�:1ht2voh.29sl8k17dclwmN%maennig.0701@cric etus.com...
> >> Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is just easier to say than my "vacation
> >>> overseas" or my "vacation to UK and Europe".
> >>
> >> Europe isn't overseas. It's clearly on this side of any ocean.
> >>
> > Germany is overseas.
>
> Tis for me too.

I find it hard to use the term "overseas" when going to continental
Europe from the UK- despite it being technically correct.

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Old Feb 5th 2007, 7:35 am
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:04:28 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:41:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Jens
>Arne Maennig) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... That's one of the reasons why I mostly travel to Munich by bicycle.
> ... However, the argument is pretty unclear to me. I've never seen more
> ... students in Munich in June but in April.
>
>It's meant to be "children/fambleeees on holiday". Something to avoid at any cost.

That surely depends on where you go. I can't see that it would be a
problem in Paris, London, or Munich, which are three places that were
being discussed. April might be worse than June for those cities,
because they're very popular destination for spring school tours,
which to my mind are infinitely worse than families on holiday.

If you go to a beach resort or a lakeside town, you may run into lots
of families on holiday in the summer, but I don't know any country
that has school holidays already in early June. July is usually the
beginning of family holidays. In Italy, you don't see many families on
holiday until August.

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Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 7:35 am
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:47:21 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mike:
>>
>> Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
>> river area?
>
>"Rhine river area"!!! I missed that completely!
>
>It's a wonderful area. Very scenic, from Bonn southwards.
>But...may I suggest you wait until you have some time for a trip in the
>second half of September for that part of your tour? Then, the area is at
>its best. Also, it's a great area for more senior travellers.
>Wine markets, Rhine river boat rides and all! My favorite fall trip would
>be five days of Rhine river (last days of September) combined with 4-5
>days Barcelona (first week of October).

We once spent a wonderful week along the Mosel in early September. It
was around the time of the grape harvest.

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 7:56 am
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magda = martin

"Magda" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:51:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
> <[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:44:59 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:01 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, B
> Vaughan<[email protected]>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... I would guess that fewer than half the hotels in Rome charge
> more in
> ... > ... high season than at other times. In Florence, even fewer. (You
> could
> ... > ... argue that Florence has no low season.) In Rome, July and August
> are
> ... > ... considered low season, for those hotels with variable rates.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... For what it's worth, I just returned to a hotel in Rome where I
> had
> ... > ... spent a few days last August. The price was exactly the same.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... In mountain or seaside vacation areas in Italy, there are
> sometimes
> ... > ... other restrictions in high season, such as a half-board
> requirement,
> ... > ... or a one-week minimum stay.
> ... >
> ... >Pick a travel brochure and check the room prices.
> ...
> ... Paid the same price all the year round in hotels I used in Rome and
> Northern
> ... Italy.
>
> Not true for the rest of the world.
>
 
Old Feb 5th 2007, 8:07 am
  #60  
-Magda
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:35:39 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, B Vaughan<[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:


... That surely depends on where you go. I can't see that it would be a
... problem in Paris, London, or Munich, which are three places that were
... being discussed. April might be worse than June for those cities,
... because they're very popular destination for spring school tours,
... which to my mind are infinitely worse than families on holiday.

Nope. Teachers make the kiddyyes behave, whereas the parents don't give a rat's.

... If you go to a beach resort or a lakeside town, you may run into lots
... of families on holiday in the summer, but I don't know any country
... that has school holidays already in early June. July is usually the
... beginning of family holidays. In Italy, you don't see many families on
... holiday until August.
 

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