German sun lounger issue settled
Aug 8th 2005, 11:26 pm
#31
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On 9 Aug 2005 04:17:57 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Jordi a écrit :
>> In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
>> Not that I carry mine, though.
>What's chuffing annoying in France (amongst other things) is needing to
>carry the car's A5 size registration document with you when you drive.
>If you leave it in the car and the car's stolen, you're mullah'ed, so
>you need a huge size wallet to put the thing in.
You have to carry one part in NL too, but the not the part that proves
ownership.
Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
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Martin
>Jordi a écrit :
>> In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
>> Not that I carry mine, though.
>What's chuffing annoying in France (amongst other things) is needing to
>carry the car's A5 size registration document with you when you drive.
>If you leave it in the car and the car's stolen, you're mullah'ed, so
>you need a huge size wallet to put the thing in.
You have to carry one part in NL too, but the not the part that proves
ownership.
Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 11:28 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:22:35 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>prestwich tesco
>>> but not to move them all around when nobody is about.
>>I must admit I posted this out of amusement. I've never stayed at a
>>resort, and the only time I use sun loungers are on beaches when you
>>have to hire them individually. Based on stories from my grandparents
>>though, I'm inclined to think there was a modicum of truth to it! They
>>said that the "Germans" would place the towels on the sunbeds before
>>breakfast, then go off to breakfast. Meanwhile, the "little spanish
>>waiters" would remove them all. Ah well, as long as they enjoyed
>>themselves...
>In my experience of trips to Spain before we started avoiding the
>sort of places this happens, the waiters let the Germans get on
>with it. At the "Tres Islas" on Fuerte the Germans started
>putting towels down in the evening before they went to bed to get
>up early to join the aerobics class. The Brit's of course never
>did the aerobics work out, preferring to sleep in after getting
>drunk the night before. This gave drunken Brit's the opportunity
>to swap round or throw in the pool all the German towels in the
>late evening.
along with the recliners and the Germans? :-)
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>prestwich tesco
>>> but not to move them all around when nobody is about.
>>I must admit I posted this out of amusement. I've never stayed at a
>>resort, and the only time I use sun loungers are on beaches when you
>>have to hire them individually. Based on stories from my grandparents
>>though, I'm inclined to think there was a modicum of truth to it! They
>>said that the "Germans" would place the towels on the sunbeds before
>>breakfast, then go off to breakfast. Meanwhile, the "little spanish
>>waiters" would remove them all. Ah well, as long as they enjoyed
>>themselves...
>In my experience of trips to Spain before we started avoiding the
>sort of places this happens, the waiters let the Germans get on
>with it. At the "Tres Islas" on Fuerte the Germans started
>putting towels down in the evening before they went to bed to get
>up early to join the aerobics class. The Brit's of course never
>did the aerobics work out, preferring to sleep in after getting
>drunk the night before. This gave drunken Brit's the opportunity
>to swap round or throw in the pool all the German towels in the
>late evening.
along with the recliners and the Germans? :-)
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 11:29 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:22:35 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>>The Austrians have the same stereotype of them as well. Oddly enough.
>>Bavarian stereo types of Austrians next? :-)
>some Bavarians we met went on about "the Germans" more than we
>do. Basil Forte with a German accent!
Charles Forte or Forte Agent
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>>The Austrians have the same stereotype of them as well. Oddly enough.
>>Bavarian stereo types of Austrians next? :-)
>some Bavarians we met went on about "the Germans" more than we
>do. Basil Forte with a German accent!
Charles Forte or Forte Agent
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Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 11:31 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin a écrit :
> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
G;
> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
G;
Aug 8th 2005, 11:37 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On 9 Aug 2005 04:31:31 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin a écrit :
>> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
>I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
>apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
>need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
>centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
--
Martin
>Martin a écrit :
>> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
>I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
>apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
>need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
>centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
--
Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 11:47 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin a écrit :
> On 9 Aug 2005 04:31:31 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
> >
> >I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
> >apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
> >need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
> >centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
> The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
> rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
It's like a lot of things in France - the system is a nightmare, but
once you get in touch with a human being things work out OK.
All I needed to do was show up with the car's VAT receipt, a Certificat
de Conformite that had been sent to me for free by the manufacturer,
and a proof of address, such as a phone bill. Et ... voila! They give
you the registration and you go outside where there is an entrepreneur
in a little van who will make and fit the plates on the spot.
G;
> On 9 Aug 2005 04:31:31 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
> >
> >I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
> >apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
> >need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
> >centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
> The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
> rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
It's like a lot of things in France - the system is a nightmare, but
once you get in touch with a human being things work out OK.
All I needed to do was show up with the car's VAT receipt, a Certificat
de Conformite that had been sent to me for free by the manufacturer,
and a proof of address, such as a phone bill. Et ... voila! They give
you the registration and you go outside where there is an entrepreneur
in a little van who will make and fit the plates on the spot.
G;
Aug 8th 2005, 11:55 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
[email protected] ha escrito:
> Jordi a écrit :
> > In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
> > Not that I carry mine, though.
> What's chuffing annoying in France (amongst other things) is needing to
> carry the car's A5 size registration document with you when you drive.
> If you leave it in the car and the car's stolen, you're mullah'ed, so
> you need a huge size wallet to put the thing in.
Here too, as well as the insurance and local tax (no stickers here,
like in France).
I leave everything in the car anyway, carjackings are rare enough
around here and there are other cars more attractive or easier to steal
than mine. Actually, I don't know anyone who takes the papers back home
every day.
J.
> Jordi a écrit :
> > In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
> > Not that I carry mine, though.
> What's chuffing annoying in France (amongst other things) is needing to
> carry the car's A5 size registration document with you when you drive.
> If you leave it in the car and the car's stolen, you're mullah'ed, so
> you need a huge size wallet to put the thing in.
Here too, as well as the insurance and local tax (no stickers here,
like in France).
I leave everything in the car anyway, carjackings are rare enough
around here and there are other cars more attractive or easier to steal
than mine. Actually, I don't know anyone who takes the papers back home
every day.
J.
Aug 8th 2005, 11:55 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin a écrit :
>> On 9 Aug 2005 04:31:31 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
>> >
>> >I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
>> >apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
>> >need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
>> >centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
>> The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
>> rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
>It's like a lot of things in France - the system is a nightmare, but
>once you get in touch with a human being things work out OK.
>All I needed to do was show up with the car's VAT receipt, a Certificat
>de Conformite that had been sent to me for free by the manufacturer,
>and a proof of address, such as a phone bill. Et ... voila!
If the Dutch accepted a Certificat de Conformite hey wouldn;t need to
inspect cars and this would lead to massive unemployment. BTW if you
have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
your car.
>They give
>you the registration and you go outside where there is an entrepreneur
>in a little van who will make and fit the plates on the spot.
To 'kin simple :-)
In NL men in back street garages used to make these without you having
to go through the inconvenience of importing your car. Another example
of small family businesses trading internationally? I know a good tax
consultant if you ever need one.
--
Martin
>Martin a écrit :
>> On 9 Aug 2005 04:31:31 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Did you import your car into France or just steal one?
>> >
>> >I imported it, and it was a bit of a pain in the arse to do, but
>> >apparently not as much as it will be to import it into NL. It didn't
>> >need an inspection, and I was allowed to drive it to the registration
>> >centre, so hiring a helicopter was avoided.
>> The French rules for importation look much tougher than the Dutch
>> rules. Only in UK are all rules observed :-)
>It's like a lot of things in France - the system is a nightmare, but
>once you get in touch with a human being things work out OK.
>All I needed to do was show up with the car's VAT receipt, a Certificat
>de Conformite that had been sent to me for free by the manufacturer,
>and a proof of address, such as a phone bill. Et ... voila!
If the Dutch accepted a Certificat de Conformite hey wouldn;t need to
inspect cars and this would lead to massive unemployment. BTW if you
have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
your car.
>They give
>you the registration and you go outside where there is an entrepreneur
>in a little van who will make and fit the plates on the spot.
To 'kin simple :-)
In NL men in back street garages used to make these without you having
to go through the inconvenience of importing your car. Another example
of small family businesses trading internationally? I know a good tax
consultant if you ever need one.
--
Martin
Aug 8th 2005, 11:58 pm
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin ha escrito:
> >
> >In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
> The newer driving licences are credit card size.
Just like my ID card.
> I don't have a govt. issued ID card.
Blair says you will :D
> >Not that I carry mine, though.
> No excuse if you are shot as terrorist :-)
>
I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
J.
> >
> >In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
> The newer driving licences are credit card size.
Just like my ID card.
> I don't have a govt. issued ID card.
Blair says you will :D
> >Not that I carry mine, though.
> No excuse if you are shot as terrorist :-)
>
I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
J.
Aug 9th 2005, 12:01 am
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin a écrit :
> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> BTW if you
> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
> your car.
Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
headlights!!
> I know a good tax
> consultant if you ever need one.
Noted!!
G;
> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> BTW if you
> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
> your car.
Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
headlights!!
> I know a good tax
> consultant if you ever need one.
Noted!!
G;
Aug 9th 2005, 12:03 am
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:44:32 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>> prestwich tesco
>>
>> >Germans may have hired the sun loungers, and whatever the situation it
>> >is illegal to damage their towels.
>>
>> but not to move them all around when nobody is about.
>I must admit I posted this out of amusement. I've never stayed at a
>resort, and the only time I use sun loungers are on beaches when you
>have to hire them individually. Based on stories from my grandparents
>though, I'm inclined to think there was a modicum of truth to it! They
>said that the "Germans" would place the towels on the sunbeds before
>breakfast, then go off to breakfast. Meanwhile, the "little spanish
>waiters" would remove them all. Ah well, as long as they enjoyed
>themselves...
My husband and I took a cruise this year, for the first (and probably
only) time in my life. We didn't do any sunbathing, but we noticed
this phenomenom. A number of Germans would arrive on the deck outside
our cabin early every morning and place books and towels on the
lounges, then go away.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>> prestwich tesco
>>
>> >Germans may have hired the sun loungers, and whatever the situation it
>> >is illegal to damage their towels.
>>
>> but not to move them all around when nobody is about.
>I must admit I posted this out of amusement. I've never stayed at a
>resort, and the only time I use sun loungers are on beaches when you
>have to hire them individually. Based on stories from my grandparents
>though, I'm inclined to think there was a modicum of truth to it! They
>said that the "Germans" would place the towels on the sunbeds before
>breakfast, then go off to breakfast. Meanwhile, the "little spanish
>waiters" would remove them all. Ah well, as long as they enjoyed
>themselves...
My husband and I took a cruise this year, for the first (and probably
only) time in my life. We didn't do any sunbathing, but we noticed
this phenomenom. A number of Germans would arrive on the deck outside
our cabin early every morning and place books and towels on the
lounges, then go away.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Aug 9th 2005, 12:23 am
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On 9 Aug 2005 05:01:24 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin a écrit :
>> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> BTW if you
>> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
>> your car.
>Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
>headlights!!
Is it right hand drive?
--
Martin
>Martin a écrit :
>> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin a écrit :
>> BTW if you
>> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
>> your car.
>Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
>headlights!!
Is it right hand drive?
--
Martin
Aug 9th 2005, 12:28 am
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
On 9 Aug 2005 04:58:20 -0700, "Jordi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin ha escrito:
>> >
>> >In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
>> The newer driving licences are credit card size.
>Just like my ID card.
>> I don't have a govt. issued ID card.
>Blair says you will :D
I'm not sure if it will be in my life time :-)
>> >Not that I carry mine, though.
>> No excuse if you are shot as terrorist :-)
>>
>I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
Have "Innocent pedestrian" tattooed on your neck
--
Martin
>Martin ha escrito:
>> >
>> >In most of Europe, ID cards usually are smaller and easier to carry.
>> The newer driving licences are credit card size.
>Just like my ID card.
>> I don't have a govt. issued ID card.
>Blair says you will :D
I'm not sure if it will be in my life time :-)
>> >Not that I carry mine, though.
>> No excuse if you are shot as terrorist :-)
>>
>I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
Have "Innocent pedestrian" tattooed on your neck
--
Martin
Aug 9th 2005, 12:29 am
#44
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin a écrit :
> On 9 Aug 2005 05:01:24 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> BTW if you
> >> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
> >> your car.
> >
> >Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
> >headlights!!
>
> Is it right hand drive?
Yep!
> On 9 Aug 2005 05:01:24 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> On 9 Aug 2005 04:47:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Martin a écrit :
> >
> >> BTW if you
> >> have yellow bulbs in your lamps change them before you try to import
> >> your car.
> >
> >Now you mention it, when I registered it in France it still had UK
> >headlights!!
>
> Is it right hand drive?
Yep!
Aug 9th 2005, 12:34 am
#45
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Re: German sun lounger issue settled
Martin ha escrito:
> >I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
> Have "Innocent pedestrian" tattooed on your neck
That's what terrorists would do, huh?
J.
> >I won't probably care at that point. My family may, though.
> Have "Innocent pedestrian" tattooed on your neck
That's what terrorists would do, huh?
J.
