French Socialist & Climatologist Allegre's second thoughts about manmade global warmi
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Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> Planet Visitor II wrote:
>
>> "Go Fig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:050320070934355140%[email protected]...
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>>> In article <C211E2D3.D3F50%[email protected]>, Earl Evleth
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
>>>> [email protected]. com, "Earl Evleth"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> forged
>>>>
>>>> here is the truth
>>>>
>>>> Warmest winter ever
>>>>
>>>> 1 March 2007
>>>>
>>>> BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007
>>>> winter
>>>> the warmest ever,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ever ? That is just a lie.
>
> Since humans have been alive.
>
> --Jeff
>
Who you gonna trust on this global warming topic? The National Academy
of Science, composed of the greatest scientists in the US, or George W
Bush, who thinks that the notion humans are involved is just a rumor?
> Planet Visitor II wrote:
>
>> "Go Fig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:050320070934355140%[email protected]...
>>
>>> In article <C211E2D3.D3F50%[email protected]>, Earl Evleth
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
>>>> [email protected]. com, "Earl Evleth"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> forged
>>>>
>>>> here is the truth
>>>>
>>>> Warmest winter ever
>>>>
>>>> 1 March 2007
>>>>
>>>> BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007
>>>> winter
>>>> the warmest ever,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ever ? That is just a lie.
>
> Since humans have been alive.
>
> --Jeff
>
Who you gonna trust on this global warming topic? The National Academy
of Science, composed of the greatest scientists in the US, or George W
Bush, who thinks that the notion humans are involved is just a rumor?
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He won't, don't worry
<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]. com...
> On Mar 5, 9:50 am, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> gosh algore must be wrong!
>>
>> LAWRENCE SOLOMON, Financial Post
>> Published: Friday, March 02, 2007
>>
>> Claude Allegre, one of France's leading socialists and among her most
>> celebrated scientists, was among the first to sound the alarm about
>> the dangers of global warming.
>>
>> "By burning fossil fuels, man increased the concentration of carbon
>> dioxide in the atmosphere which, for example, has raised the global
>> mean temperature by half a degree in the last century," Dr. Allegre, a
>> renowned geochemist, wrote 20 years ago in Cles pour la geologie.."
>> Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre was among the 1500 prominent scientists
>> who signed "World Scientists' Warning to Humanity," a highly
>> publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are
>> very great" and demanding a new caring ethic that recognizes the
>> globe's fragility in order to stave off "spirals of environmental
>> decline, poverty, and unrest, leading to social, economic and
>> environmental collapse."
>>
>> In the 1980s and early 1990s, when concern about global warming was in
>> its infancy, little was known about the mechanics of how it could
>> occur, or the consequences that could befall us. Since then,
>> governments throughout the western world and bodies such as the United
>> Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have commissioned
>> billions of dollars worth of research by thousands of scientists. With
>> a wealth of data now in, Dr. Allegre has recanted his views. To his
>> surprise, the many climate models and studies failed dismally in
>> establishing a man-made cause of catastrophic global warming.
>> Meanwhile, increasing evidence indicates that most of the warming
>> comes of natural phenomena. Dr. Allegre now sees global warming as
>> over-hyped and an environmental concern of second rank.
>>
>> His break with what he now sees as environmental cant on climate
>> change came in September, in an article entitled "The Snows of
>> Kilimanjaro" in l' Express, the French weekly. His article cited
>> evidence that Antarctica is gaining ice and that Kilimanjaro's
>> retreating snow caps, among other global-warming concerns, come from
>> natural causes. "The cause of this climate change is unknown," he
>> states matter of factly. There is no basis for saying, as most do,
>> that the "science is settled."
>>
>> Dr. Allegre's skepticism is noteworthy in several respects. For one,
>> he is an exalted member of France's political establishment, a friend
>> of former Socialist president Lionel Jospin, and, from 1997 to 2000,
>> his minister of education, research and technology, charged with
>> improving the quality of government research through closer co-
>> operation with France's educational institutions. For another, Dr.
>> Allegre has the highest environmental credentials. The author of early
>> environmental books, he fought successful battles to protect the ozone
>> layer from CFCs and public health from lead pollution. His break with
>> scientific dogma over global warming came at a personal cost:
>> Colleagues in both the governmental and environmental spheres were
>> aghast that he could publicly question the science behind climate
>> change.
>>
>> But Dr. Allegre had allegiances to more than his socialist and
>> environmental colleagues. He is, above all, a scientist of the first
>> order, the architect of isotope geodynamics, which showed that the
>> atmosphere was primarily formed early in the history of the Earth, and
>> the geochemical modeller of the early solar system. Because of his
>> path-breaking cosmochemical research, NASA asked Dr. Allegre to
>> participate in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the
>> age of the Moon. Matching his scientific accomplishments in the cosmos
>> are his accomplishments at home: Dr. Allegre is perhaps best known for
>> his research on the structural and geochemical evolution of the
>> Earth's crust and the creation of its mountains, explaining both the
>> title of his article in l' Express and his revulsion at the nihilistic
>> nature of the climate research debate.
>>
>> Calling the arguments of those who see catastrophe in climate change
>> "simplistic and obscuring the true dangers," Dr. Allegre especially
>> despairs at "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations consist
>> in denouncing man's role on the climate without doing anything about
>> it except organizing conferences and preparing protocols that become
>> dead letters." The world would be better off, Dr. Allegre believes, if
>> these "denouncers" became less political and more practical, by
>> proposing practical solutions to head off the dangers they see, such
>> as developing technologies to sequester C02. His dream, he says, is to
>> see "ecology become the engine of economic development and not an
>> artificial obstacle that creates fear."
>>
>> CV OF A DENIER:
>>
>> Claude Allegre received a Ph D in physics in 1962 from the University
>> of Paris. He became the director of the geochemistry and
>> cosmochemistry program at the French National Scientific Research
>> Centre in 1967 and in 1971, he was appointed director of the
>> University of Paris's Department of Earth Sciences. In 1976, he became
>> director of the Paris Institut de Physique du Globe. He is an author
>> of more than 100 scientific articles, many of them seminal studies on
>> the evolution of the Earth using isotopic evidence, and 11 books. He
>> is a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the French
>> Academy of Science.
>
> Use "OT:" in subjects for this crap on non-political groups.
>
>
<[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]. com...
> On Mar 5, 9:50 am, "Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> gosh algore must be wrong!
>>
>> LAWRENCE SOLOMON, Financial Post
>> Published: Friday, March 02, 2007
>>
>> Claude Allegre, one of France's leading socialists and among her most
>> celebrated scientists, was among the first to sound the alarm about
>> the dangers of global warming.
>>
>> "By burning fossil fuels, man increased the concentration of carbon
>> dioxide in the atmosphere which, for example, has raised the global
>> mean temperature by half a degree in the last century," Dr. Allegre, a
>> renowned geochemist, wrote 20 years ago in Cles pour la geologie.."
>> Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre was among the 1500 prominent scientists
>> who signed "World Scientists' Warning to Humanity," a highly
>> publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are
>> very great" and demanding a new caring ethic that recognizes the
>> globe's fragility in order to stave off "spirals of environmental
>> decline, poverty, and unrest, leading to social, economic and
>> environmental collapse."
>>
>> In the 1980s and early 1990s, when concern about global warming was in
>> its infancy, little was known about the mechanics of how it could
>> occur, or the consequences that could befall us. Since then,
>> governments throughout the western world and bodies such as the United
>> Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have commissioned
>> billions of dollars worth of research by thousands of scientists. With
>> a wealth of data now in, Dr. Allegre has recanted his views. To his
>> surprise, the many climate models and studies failed dismally in
>> establishing a man-made cause of catastrophic global warming.
>> Meanwhile, increasing evidence indicates that most of the warming
>> comes of natural phenomena. Dr. Allegre now sees global warming as
>> over-hyped and an environmental concern of second rank.
>>
>> His break with what he now sees as environmental cant on climate
>> change came in September, in an article entitled "The Snows of
>> Kilimanjaro" in l' Express, the French weekly. His article cited
>> evidence that Antarctica is gaining ice and that Kilimanjaro's
>> retreating snow caps, among other global-warming concerns, come from
>> natural causes. "The cause of this climate change is unknown," he
>> states matter of factly. There is no basis for saying, as most do,
>> that the "science is settled."
>>
>> Dr. Allegre's skepticism is noteworthy in several respects. For one,
>> he is an exalted member of France's political establishment, a friend
>> of former Socialist president Lionel Jospin, and, from 1997 to 2000,
>> his minister of education, research and technology, charged with
>> improving the quality of government research through closer co-
>> operation with France's educational institutions. For another, Dr.
>> Allegre has the highest environmental credentials. The author of early
>> environmental books, he fought successful battles to protect the ozone
>> layer from CFCs and public health from lead pollution. His break with
>> scientific dogma over global warming came at a personal cost:
>> Colleagues in both the governmental and environmental spheres were
>> aghast that he could publicly question the science behind climate
>> change.
>>
>> But Dr. Allegre had allegiances to more than his socialist and
>> environmental colleagues. He is, above all, a scientist of the first
>> order, the architect of isotope geodynamics, which showed that the
>> atmosphere was primarily formed early in the history of the Earth, and
>> the geochemical modeller of the early solar system. Because of his
>> path-breaking cosmochemical research, NASA asked Dr. Allegre to
>> participate in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the
>> age of the Moon. Matching his scientific accomplishments in the cosmos
>> are his accomplishments at home: Dr. Allegre is perhaps best known for
>> his research on the structural and geochemical evolution of the
>> Earth's crust and the creation of its mountains, explaining both the
>> title of his article in l' Express and his revulsion at the nihilistic
>> nature of the climate research debate.
>>
>> Calling the arguments of those who see catastrophe in climate change
>> "simplistic and obscuring the true dangers," Dr. Allegre especially
>> despairs at "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations consist
>> in denouncing man's role on the climate without doing anything about
>> it except organizing conferences and preparing protocols that become
>> dead letters." The world would be better off, Dr. Allegre believes, if
>> these "denouncers" became less political and more practical, by
>> proposing practical solutions to head off the dangers they see, such
>> as developing technologies to sequester C02. His dream, he says, is to
>> see "ecology become the engine of economic development and not an
>> artificial obstacle that creates fear."
>>
>> CV OF A DENIER:
>>
>> Claude Allegre received a Ph D in physics in 1962 from the University
>> of Paris. He became the director of the geochemistry and
>> cosmochemistry program at the French National Scientific Research
>> Centre in 1967 and in 1971, he was appointed director of the
>> University of Paris's Department of Earth Sciences. In 1976, he became
>> director of the Paris Institut de Physique du Globe. He is an author
>> of more than 100 scientific articles, many of them seminal studies on
>> the evolution of the Earth using isotopic evidence, and 11 books. He
>> is a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the French
>> Academy of Science.
>
> Use "OT:" in subjects for this crap on non-political groups.
>
>