French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
Oct 9th 2004, 1:12 pm
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French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
"Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
politician"
"Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
by the government."
"They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
"
"Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
politician"
"Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
by the government."
"They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
"
Oct 9th 2004, 1:20 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
> by the government."
Are we talking about France or the USA?
Pete
> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
> by the government."
Are we talking about France or the USA?
Pete
Oct 9th 2004, 2:38 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
"Pete" <[email protected]> wrote in news:H70ad.757$Bw1.222
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>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>
> Are we talking about France or the USA?
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
In the US we would be proud of it and so state, that is the difference
between the US and France, They are proud and ashamed, we no shame not.
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>
> Are we talking about France or the USA?
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
In the US we would be proud of it and so state, that is the difference
between the US and France, They are proud and ashamed, we no shame not.
Oct 9th 2004, 5:38 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
Sam writes:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>
> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
> politician"
>
> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
> by the government."
>
> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
> "
The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>
> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
> politician"
>
> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
> by the government."
>
> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
> "
The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
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Oct 9th 2004, 7:16 pm
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French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
Dans l'article <[email protected]>, Mxsmanic
<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
> The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
Maxie, I have not noticed this. But perhaps this is because I go places
that you don't, thus meeting people that you would not.
Yesterday evening we went to dinner for the first time at a restaurant in
the 11th arrondissement, you know, the place you described as one of the
last places in Paris that you would send anyone to. The name of the
restaurant is La Dame Brune, it is located at 287 rue du Faubourg
St-Antoine, not far from Nation. La Dame Brune, whose real name is Claude,
runs the restaurant, her husband, Dave, who is British, is the bartender.
She speaks good English, loves Americans, was absolutely charming to us.
The whole atmosphere of the place is warm, friendly neighborhood bistro.
The food is good too. I had tête de veau, which is one of my real
favorites, although not something a typical American would order. My
husband Earl had the souris d'agneau, which is the end of the leg of lamb,
cooked well done with herbs and spices. He was very happy with it. I was
tempted by some of the other things as well, notably the cod with garlic and
olive oil, and the kidneys in mustard sauce. Oh well, next time, since we
surely will go back.
Donna Evleth
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<[email protected]> a écrit :
> Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
> The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
Maxie, I have not noticed this. But perhaps this is because I go places
that you don't, thus meeting people that you would not.
Yesterday evening we went to dinner for the first time at a restaurant in
the 11th arrondissement, you know, the place you described as one of the
last places in Paris that you would send anyone to. The name of the
restaurant is La Dame Brune, it is located at 287 rue du Faubourg
St-Antoine, not far from Nation. La Dame Brune, whose real name is Claude,
runs the restaurant, her husband, Dave, who is British, is the bartender.
She speaks good English, loves Americans, was absolutely charming to us.
The whole atmosphere of the place is warm, friendly neighborhood bistro.
The food is good too. I had tête de veau, which is one of my real
favorites, although not something a typical American would order. My
husband Earl had the souris d'agneau, which is the end of the leg of lamb,
cooked well done with herbs and spices. He was very happy with it. I was
tempted by some of the other things as well, notably the cod with garlic and
olive oil, and the kidneys in mustard sauce. Oh well, next time, since we
surely will go back.
Donna Evleth
> --
> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
Oct 9th 2004, 7:59 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:20:39 GMT, "Pete" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>Are we talking about France or the USA?
I thought it was GB :-)
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>Are we talking about France or the USA?
I thought it was GB :-)
Oct 9th 2004, 8:03 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>>
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>>
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>>
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
>The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
"Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
signs, <blah de blah..>"
At least you can't accuse the French of being hypocrites. :-)
wrote:
>Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>>
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>>
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>>
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
>The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
"Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
signs, <blah de blah..>"
At least you can't accuse the French of being hypocrites. :-)
Oct 9th 2004, 8:09 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
"Sam" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
> politician"
Waiting for the day when the British government will admit that the British
press may be a problem for the perception of UK abroad...
[email protected]...
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
> politician"
Waiting for the day when the British government will admit that the British
press may be a problem for the perception of UK abroad...
Oct 9th 2004, 8:22 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:09:19 +0200, "JX Bardant"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Sam" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected].. .
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>Waiting for the day when the British government will admit that the British
>press may be a problem for the perception of UK abroad...
Especially the Oz/US/Canadian owned parts of it.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Sam" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
>[email protected].. .
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>Waiting for the day when the British government will admit that the British
>press may be a problem for the perception of UK abroad...
Especially the Oz/US/Canadian owned parts of it.
Oct 9th 2004, 8:47 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
Après mure réflexion, [email protected] a écrit :
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Sam writes:
>>
> "Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
> million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
> Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
> signs, <blah de blah..>"
And when you arrive from abroad, you don't need to give your
fingerprints to the local police...
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> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Sam writes:
>>
> "Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
> million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
> Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
> signs, <blah de blah..>"
And when you arrive from abroad, you don't need to give your
fingerprints to the local police...
--
Dominique Foucart
Brussels, Capital City of European Community
Trails and Hikes in Haute-Savoie: http://www.samoens.int.ms
Appartment Rental for Hiking and Skiing:
http://dfoucart.tripod.com/samoensquejaime
Oct 9th 2004, 10:58 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On 9 Oct 2004 18:12:58 -0700, [email protected] (Sam) wrote:
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>"Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>politician"
> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>by the government."
>"They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>"
You can lead a horse's ass to water, but ........
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>"Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>politician"
> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>by the government."
>"They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>"
You can lead a horse's ass to water, but ........
Oct 9th 2004, 10:58 pm
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:20:39 GMT, "Pete" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>Are we talking about France or the USA?
>Pete
Only someone as completely stupid as you even needs to ask this
question.
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>Are we talking about France or the USA?
>Pete
Only someone as completely stupid as you even needs to ask this
question.
Oct 10th 2004, 12:06 am
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>>
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>>
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>>
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
>The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
True. Like shit in both cases.
wrote:
>Sam writes:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...0/wfranc10.xml
>>
>> "Our attitude problem is not something to be proud of, says Paris
>> politician"
>>
>> "Our bad image in this area, the arrogance we are accused of, our
>> refusal to speak foreign languages, the sense we give that it's a
>> great honour to visit us are among the ugly facts of which we should
>> not be proud," reads the first paragraph of his report, commissioned
>> by the government."
>>
>> "They have to learn that the tourist is not a nuisance but a benefit.
>> "
>The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
True. Like shit in both cases.
Oct 10th 2004, 12:08 am
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>>The French treat tourists the same way they treat each other.
>"Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
>million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
>Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
>signs, <blah de blah..>"
What makes you think they welcome anyone to France?
>At least you can't accuse the French of being hypocrites. :-)
You can't? You mean criticizing us for being in Iraq after over a
dozen resolutions while having invaded various African countries more
that 30 times since 1960 without any UN participation whatsoever,
including the Ivory Coast where they replaced a democratically elected
government while the Iraq invasion was going on, doesn't qualify?
>"Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
>million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
>Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
>signs, <blah de blah..>"
What makes you think they welcome anyone to France?
>At least you can't accuse the French of being hypocrites. :-)
You can't? You mean criticizing us for being in Iraq after over a
dozen resolutions while having invaded various African countries more
that 30 times since 1960 without any UN participation whatsoever,
including the Ivory Coast where they replaced a democratically elected
government while the Iraq invasion was going on, doesn't qualify?
Oct 10th 2004, 12:10 am
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Re: French gov admits snobbery a problem in tourism report
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:47:06 +0200, Dominique Foucart
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Après mure réflexion, [email protected] a écrit :
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Sam writes:
>>>
>> "Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
>> million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
>> Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
>> signs, <blah de blah..>"
>And when you arrive from abroad, you don't need to give your
>fingerprints to the local police...
Sure, you just have a bunch of morons in Belgium claiming they have
the right to prosecute US government officials whenever they don't
like what they do instead. Just like the International Criminal
Court. I'll take the fingerprints myself, which are at least
legitimate anti-terrorist measures.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Après mure réflexion, [email protected] a écrit :
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:38:23 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Sam writes:
>>>
>> "Paris' main airport Charles de Gaulle/Roissy, which handles almost 50
>> million passengers a year, was singled out for a particular slating.
>> Surly staff, slow baggage handlers, a lack of "Welcome to France"
>> signs, <blah de blah..>"
>And when you arrive from abroad, you don't need to give your
>fingerprints to the local police...
Sure, you just have a bunch of morons in Belgium claiming they have
the right to prosecute US government officials whenever they don't
like what they do instead. Just like the International Criminal
Court. I'll take the fingerprints myself, which are at least
legitimate anti-terrorist measures.
