France and road signs
Sep 1st 2003, 10:14 am
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Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote in
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> http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...60&VIDThemeIma
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Absolutely! Loose translation of bumper sticker-You figure it out!
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> http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...60&VIDThemeIma
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Absolutely! Loose translation of bumper sticker-You figure it out!
Sep 1st 2003, 10:35 am
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"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:50:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:38:33 -0600, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:09:14 +0100, Keith Anderson
> >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>As long as you don't have to get to this place....................
> >> >>
> >>
>>>http://www.humour.com/image/Affichag...5&VIDThemeImag
e
> >=14
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >Oh. Well. Then http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm
> >> >definitely needs a look at the sign and the roundabout.
> >> >
> >> Ah, the good old Magic Roundabout in Swindon.
> >>
> >> What's not clear from the diagram (or the picture) is that you can
> >> actually go from one satellite mini-roundabout to another by going
> >> across the space in the middle, as a good friend of mine who actually
> >> lived there demonstrated one day.
> >
> >I guess you can also go from one to one two to the left, by going in a
right
> >hand direction around all the others ?
> Probably.
> Personally, I would avoid the damn thing at all costs.
> Those taking driving lessons in Swindon don't go near it until they've
> passed their test, so I've heard.
> Maybe this areial photo might clarify things
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...IDThemeImage=1
4
> >
So its got a proper roundabout in the middle :-( that spoils the fun.
Look like an ordinary roundabout but with an inner an outer ring.
probably very good at busy times IF you know your way around it.
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:50:21 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:38:33 -0600, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:09:14 +0100, Keith Anderson
> >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>As long as you don't have to get to this place....................
> >> >>
> >>
>>>http://www.humour.com/image/Affichag...5&VIDThemeImag
e
> >=14
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >Oh. Well. Then http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm
> >> >definitely needs a look at the sign and the roundabout.
> >> >
> >> Ah, the good old Magic Roundabout in Swindon.
> >>
> >> What's not clear from the diagram (or the picture) is that you can
> >> actually go from one satellite mini-roundabout to another by going
> >> across the space in the middle, as a good friend of mine who actually
> >> lived there demonstrated one day.
> >
> >I guess you can also go from one to one two to the left, by going in a
right
> >hand direction around all the others ?
> Probably.
> Personally, I would avoid the damn thing at all costs.
> Those taking driving lessons in Swindon don't go near it until they've
> passed their test, so I've heard.
> Maybe this areial photo might clarify things
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...IDThemeImage=1
4
> >
So its got a proper roundabout in the middle :-( that spoils the fun.
Look like an ordinary roundabout but with an inner an outer ring.
probably very good at busy times IF you know your way around it.
Sep 1st 2003, 10:50 am
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"Hatunen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:35:26 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [...]
> >> Maybe this areial photo might clarify things
> >>
>http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...VIDThemeImage=
1
> >
> >So its got a proper roundabout in the middle :-( that spoils the fun.
> Not proper for the UK: the middle roundabout goes the wrong way
> round for England.
> >Look like an ordinary roundabout but with an inner an outer ring.
> No. It has an inner ring that goes the wrong way with five
> satellite rings feeding it. However, the left turn from one ring
> to the next creates what looks like an outer ring.
Oh yuk - I didnt spot that.
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:35:26 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> [...]
> >> Maybe this areial photo might clarify things
> >>
>http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...VIDThemeImage=
1
> >
> >So its got a proper roundabout in the middle :-( that spoils the fun.
> Not proper for the UK: the middle roundabout goes the wrong way
> round for England.
> >Look like an ordinary roundabout but with an inner an outer ring.
> No. It has an inner ring that goes the wrong way with five
> satellite rings feeding it. However, the left turn from one ring
> to the next creates what looks like an outer ring.
Oh yuk - I didnt spot that.
Sep 1st 2003, 11:10 am
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"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:20:54 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
this
> >way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> The UK equivalent is "Through Traffic" I think.
That would be used to help traffic avoid a town centre. The direct
equivalent to Toutes Directions is Other Routes.
Colin Bignell
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:20:54 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
this
> >way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> The UK equivalent is "Through Traffic" I think.
That would be used to help traffic avoid a town centre. The direct
equivalent to Toutes Directions is Other Routes.
Colin Bignell
Sep 1st 2003, 12:20 pm
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"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:40:50 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
> >this
> >> way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >> schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> >
> >It is rather amusing... you see signage for various places, and then the
> >"Toutes Directions" sign that basically says "all directions." So you're
> >thinkin'-
> >
> >A
If it's "all directions" then what are the other signs for?
> >
> >B How do they know where I want to go? :>)
> >
> >But I think a later poster got it most accurate when he said it was the
> >equivalent of "through traffic." You just have to keep track of what
it's
> >"through" to!
> Mike, it's really quite simple, honest!
> The signs either mean:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=17
> or:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=14
This is quite funny and how I felt !
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> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:40:50 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
> >this
> >> way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >> schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> >
> >It is rather amusing... you see signage for various places, and then the
> >"Toutes Directions" sign that basically says "all directions." So you're
> >thinkin'-
> >
> >A
If it's "all directions" then what are the other signs for?> >
> >B
How do they know where I want to go? :>)> >
> >But I think a later poster got it most accurate when he said it was the
> >equivalent of "through traffic." You just have to keep track of what
it's
> >"through" to!
> Mike, it's really quite simple, honest!
> The signs either mean:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=17
> or:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=14
This is quite funny and how I felt !
Sep 1st 2003, 7:07 pm
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:19:24 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Vijay Kumar writes:
>
>> But for the life of me I could not figure out what those signs meant. Does
>> anybody know?
>
> They theoretically point in the directions to follow to reach the
> indicated places and destinations.
>
> Unfortunately, the orientation of the signs is usually ambiguous.
> Sometimes they point down or up, or at a 45° angle to one side, and the
> meanings of these orientations are not consistent.
In general the signs point to the road you need to take, not in the
direction you need to take. Thus at a crossroad, the sign for straight
ahead will be on the right of the straight-ahead road and point to the
left.
> Vijay Kumar writes:
>
>> But for the life of me I could not figure out what those signs meant. Does
>> anybody know?
>
> They theoretically point in the directions to follow to reach the
> indicated places and destinations.
>
> Unfortunately, the orientation of the signs is usually ambiguous.
> Sometimes they point down or up, or at a 45° angle to one side, and the
> meanings of these orientations are not consistent.
In general the signs point to the road you need to take, not in the
direction you need to take. Thus at a crossroad, the sign for straight
ahead will be on the right of the straight-ahead road and point to the
left.
Sep 2nd 2003, 5:36 am
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I think you may mean 'Toutes Directions', which I understand to mean a
through route - or perhaps all directions other than any otherwise
specified on the roundabout/junction.
PJW
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0700, "Vijay Kumar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Recently on a trip to France, I encountered a common sign at city
>roundabouts--"Directions" (spelling). They seemed to lead nowhere.
>Fortunately I learned to avoid them, since I found other signs leading me to
>my destination.
>But for the life of me I could not figure out what those signs meant. Does
>anybody know?
through route - or perhaps all directions other than any otherwise
specified on the roundabout/junction.
PJW
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0700, "Vijay Kumar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Recently on a trip to France, I encountered a common sign at city
>roundabouts--"Directions" (spelling). They seemed to lead nowhere.
>Fortunately I learned to avoid them, since I found other signs leading me to
>my destination.
>But for the life of me I could not figure out what those signs meant. Does
>anybody know?
Sep 2nd 2003, 5:54 am
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Harrison"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There's another one along the same lines in Hemel Hempsted but the bit in
>the middle (which you end up going round the "wrong" way as in Swindon) is
>more obvious.
Diagram at http://www.hemelweb.demon.co.uk/history.htm, where it
says:
"It used to be called the Plough roundabout but the "Magic"
roundabout, or the funny roundabout, as it tends to be called,
was built to cope with the increased congestion that came as
Hemel grew. On the first day of operation in June 1973, traffic
came to a standstill and backed up to Berkhamsted. Drivers
eventually got used to it although you still see the odd trilby
hatted motorist causing chaos and looking totally lost on the
roundabout."
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>There's another one along the same lines in Hemel Hempsted but the bit in
>the middle (which you end up going round the "wrong" way as in Swindon) is
>more obvious.
Diagram at http://www.hemelweb.demon.co.uk/history.htm, where it
says:
"It used to be called the Plough roundabout but the "Magic"
roundabout, or the funny roundabout, as it tends to be called,
was built to cope with the increased congestion that came as
Hemel grew. On the first day of operation in June 1973, traffic
came to a standstill and backed up to Berkhamsted. Drivers
eventually got used to it although you still see the odd trilby
hatted motorist causing chaos and looking totally lost on the
roundabout."
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Sep 2nd 2003, 6:05 am
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There's another one along the same lines in Hemel Hempsted but the bit in
the middle (which you end up going round the "wrong" way as in Swindon) is
more obvious.
Also note the bit at the very top. It provides yet another way round
which, in my experience, few people use because of the actual island
separating it from the rest of the tarmac.
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the middle (which you end up going round the "wrong" way as in Swindon) is
more obvious.
Also note the bit at the very top. It provides yet another way round
which, in my experience, few people use because of the actual island
separating it from the rest of the tarmac.
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Sep 2nd 2003, 7:39 am
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"P J Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I think you may mean 'Toutes Directions', which I understand to mean a
> through route - or perhaps all directions other than any otherwise
> specified on the roundabout/junction.
Ah 'Toutes Directions', the most important Franch direction sign. In lots of
cases, there will be what amounts to a mini-ring road in a small town, and
all the roads out of town lead from somewhere on this road. This road often
is on the site of former town walls - or next to them. The 'Toutes
Directions' signs will keep you on this ring so that you can go round and
round until you're REALLY sure which road to depart on.
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> I think you may mean 'Toutes Directions', which I understand to mean a
> through route - or perhaps all directions other than any otherwise
> specified on the roundabout/junction.
Ah 'Toutes Directions', the most important Franch direction sign. In lots of
cases, there will be what amounts to a mini-ring road in a small town, and
all the roads out of town lead from somewhere on this road. This road often
is on the site of former town walls - or next to them. The 'Toutes
Directions' signs will keep you on this ring so that you can go round and
round until you're REALLY sure which road to depart on.
Sep 2nd 2003, 10:59 am
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>As far as driving in France in general, signage and maps aren't so tough
Just keep in mind the next situation:
at the right side of the road, a sign indicates you should go left for your
destination.
at the left side, a sign indicates you should turn right for your destination.
In this case, go straight on!
--
Peter Koster
French Toilets, travel guide about France
http://www.hurktoilet.nl/hurk-en.htm
Just keep in mind the next situation:
at the right side of the road, a sign indicates you should go left for your
destination.
at the left side, a sign indicates you should turn right for your destination.
In this case, go straight on!
--
Peter Koster
French Toilets, travel guide about France
http://www.hurktoilet.nl/hurk-en.htm
Sep 2nd 2003, 11:14 am
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"Peter (http://www.hurktoilet.nl)" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> >As far as driving in France in general, signage and maps aren't so tough
> Just keep in mind the next situation:
> at the right side of the road, a sign indicates you should go left for
your
> destination.
> at the left side, a sign indicates you should turn right for your
destination.
> In this case, go straight on!
> --
> Peter Koster
> French Toilets, travel guide about France
> http://www.hurktoilet.nl/hurk-en.htm
I look at it this way:
The sign points to the road you should take, rather than the direction you
should travel in.
RTE
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> >As far as driving in France in general, signage and maps aren't so tough
> Just keep in mind the next situation:
> at the right side of the road, a sign indicates you should go left for
your
> destination.
> at the left side, a sign indicates you should turn right for your
destination.
> In this case, go straight on!
> --
> Peter Koster
> French Toilets, travel guide about France
> http://www.hurktoilet.nl/hurk-en.htm
I look at it this way:
The sign points to the road you should take, rather than the direction you
should travel in.
RTE
Sep 6th 2003, 4:37 pm
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http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=14
So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear in
my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:40:50 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
> >this
> >> way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >> schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> >
> >It is rather amusing... you see signage for various places, and then the
> >"Toutes Directions" sign that basically says "all directions." So you're
> >thinkin'-
> >
> >A If it's "all directions" then what are the other signs for?
> >
> >B How do they know where I want to go? :>)
> >
> >But I think a later poster got it most accurate when he said it was the
> >equivalent of "through traffic." You just have to keep track of what
it's
> >"through" to!
> Mike, it's really quite simple, honest!
> The signs either mean:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...IDThemeImage=1
7
> or:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=14
> >
> >As far as driving in France in general, signage and maps aren't so tough
> >(except that the print and lines on those danged Michelin maps are so
small,
> >at least for a 47-year-old!). The biggest thing to remember, for those
from
> >the US, is that the limit line (where you stop at an intersection) can
> >sometimes be well back from the croosroad, and if you go too far, you may
> >overshoot visibility to the stoplight.
> >
> >--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
> >
So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear in
my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Keith Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:40:50 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Are you sure it didn't say "Toutes Directions"? Basically it means go
> >this
> >> way unless there is a sign pointing to your actual destination. My
> >> schoolboy French translates it literally as "Every Direction".
> >
> >It is rather amusing... you see signage for various places, and then the
> >"Toutes Directions" sign that basically says "all directions." So you're
> >thinkin'-
> >
> >A
If it's "all directions" then what are the other signs for?> >
> >B
How do they know where I want to go? :>)> >
> >But I think a later poster got it most accurate when he said it was the
> >equivalent of "through traffic." You just have to keep track of what
it's
> >"through" to!
> Mike, it's really quite simple, honest!
> The signs either mean:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...IDThemeImage=1
7
> or:
http://www.humour.com/Image/Affichag...DThemeImage=14
> >
> >As far as driving in France in general, signage and maps aren't so tough
> >(except that the print and lines on those danged Michelin maps are so
small,
> >at least for a 47-year-old!). The biggest thing to remember, for those
from
> >the US, is that the limit line (where you stop at an intersection) can
> >sometimes be well back from the croosroad, and if you go too far, you may
> >overshoot visibility to the stoplight.
> >
> >--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
> >
Sep 6th 2003, 6:53 pm
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> So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear
in
> my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
démerder [!!]: se démerder / demE1de / Þ verb table: aimer verbe pronominal
1 (se débrouiller) to manage; se démerder pour faire to manage to do; se
démerder pour obtenir qch
to wangle[!] sth; se démerder avec ses problèmes to sort out one's own
problems; démerde-toi
pour payer sort the bill GB ou check US out yourself[!]; il s'est démerdé
pour trouver du travail
he managed to find a job;
2 (se dépêcher) démerde-toi un peu! get your arse GB ou ass US in gear[!!]!
> So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear
in
> my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
démerder [!!]: se démerder / demE1de / Þ verb table: aimer verbe pronominal
1 (se débrouiller) to manage; se démerder pour faire to manage to do; se
démerder pour obtenir qch
to wangle[!] sth; se démerder avec ses problèmes to sort out one's own
problems; démerde-toi
pour payer sort the bill GB ou check US out yourself[!]; il s'est démerdé
pour trouver du travail
he managed to find a job;
2 (se dépêcher) démerde-toi un peu! get your arse GB ou ass US in gear[!!]!
Sep 6th 2003, 6:56 pm
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> >
> > So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear
> in
> > my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
> démerder [!!]: se démerder / demE1de / Þ verb table: aimer verbe
pronominal
> 1 (se débrouiller) to manage; se démerder pour faire to manage to do; se
> démerder pour obtenir qch
> to wangle[!] sth; se démerder avec ses problèmes to sort out one's own
> problems; démerde-toi
> pour payer sort the bill GB ou check US out yourself[!]; il s'est démerdé
> pour trouver du travail
> he managed to find a job;
> 2 (se dépêcher) démerde-toi un peu! get your arse GB ou ass US in
gear[!!]!
Didn't mean to hit send.. the photo is funny. Démerdez-vous means "figure
it out yourself". It's funny cause "toutes directions" is very common, and
often you follow it and find out it doesn't go where you really wanted to.
> >
> > So... what's the translation for the word "demerdez?" It doesn't appear
> in
> > my simple French/English dictionary, nor does Google translate it-
> démerder [!!]: se démerder / demE1de / Þ verb table: aimer verbe
pronominal
> 1 (se débrouiller) to manage; se démerder pour faire to manage to do; se
> démerder pour obtenir qch
> to wangle[!] sth; se démerder avec ses problèmes to sort out one's own
> problems; démerde-toi
> pour payer sort the bill GB ou check US out yourself[!]; il s'est démerdé
> pour trouver du travail
> he managed to find a job;
> 2 (se dépêcher) démerde-toi un peu! get your arse GB ou ass US in
gear[!!]!
Didn't mean to hit send.. the photo is funny. Démerdez-vous means "figure
it out yourself". It's funny cause "toutes directions" is very common, and
often you follow it and find out it doesn't go where you really wanted to.
