France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
Aug 29th 2005, 5:41 am
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France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
By SOPHIE NICHOLSON, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
France and Belgium have issued blacklists of airlines prohibited from using
their airports, an attempt to allay public fears about flying after a recent
series of deadly crashes.
The French list released late Sunday comprises six companies from the U.S.
Virgin Islands, Thailand, North Korea, Mozambique and Liberia. Belgium's
list released Monday includes nine airlines from Egypt, Armenia, Congo,
Libya, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, Ukraine and the Central African Republic.
Swiss civil aviation officials also said they plan to release a similar list
Thursday.
Proposals for a European blacklist are still being prepared, prompting
individual countries to take action in the meantime.
Starting Sept. 8, EU states will meet in Brussels to work on harmonizing
rules to ban or suspend a company's flights, EU Transport Commissioner
Jacques Barrot said.
Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said he
hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
Though all the airlines had been banned in recent years, France had never
before made a blacklist public.
"We also hope this list will persuade foreign companies who want to come to
France to be more rigorous," Coffin told a news conference.
Thailand's Phuket Airways, one of the airlines banned in France, demanded to
know what criteria France used to judge it.
"I really don't understand what is the meaning of unsafe. Unsafe for what?
Unsafe for operations or unsafe for what? Because we have never had a
serious incident or accident, so I would like to ask back to the authorities
what is the meaning of unsafe?" Capt. Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, executive
vice president of Phuket Air, said in Bangkok.
Because air accidents are still so rare ‹ despite this month's spike ‹
airline records fail to tell the whole story, safety specialists say.
In France, many questioned the reliability blacklists.
"Publishing lists is completely ineffective," said Marc Chernet, president
of an association for victims of a Flash Airlines plane crash in the Red Sea
in June 2004. The plane, heading to Paris, crashed after taking off from
Sharm El-Sheik, Egypt, killing 148 people, mostly French tourists.
The French and Belgian measures were announced following five aviation
accidents in the past few months, including one involving a
Colombian-registered charter that crashed in Venezuela, killing 152 French
citizens from the Caribbean island of Martinique.
On Saturday, a charter flight from Turkish company Fly Air was grounded at
Paris' Roissy airport with tire problems and a small fuel leak. That company
was not on France's blacklist.
The U.S. has a slightly different system that focuses on countries rather
than airlines, and uses aviation safety standards set by the International
Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency headquartered in
Montreal. Twenty-six of the 100 countries that have been assessed do not
meet ICAO standards, most in Africa, South America and the Caribbean.
France's list of banned airlines is: Air Koryo of North Korea; Air St.
Thomas of the U.S. Virgin Islands; International Air Services of Liberia;
Thailand's Phuket Airlines; and Linhas Aereas de Mocambique and
Transairways, both from Mozambique.
On the Belgian list were Africa Lines of the Central African Republic; Air
Memphis from Egypt; Air Van Airlines of Armenia; Central Air Express from
Congo; Libya's ICTTPW; International Air Tours Limited from Nigeria;
Johnsons Air Limited of Ghana; Silverback Cargo Freighters from Rwanda; and
South Airlines of Ukraine.
By SOPHIE NICHOLSON, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
France and Belgium have issued blacklists of airlines prohibited from using
their airports, an attempt to allay public fears about flying after a recent
series of deadly crashes.
The French list released late Sunday comprises six companies from the U.S.
Virgin Islands, Thailand, North Korea, Mozambique and Liberia. Belgium's
list released Monday includes nine airlines from Egypt, Armenia, Congo,
Libya, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, Ukraine and the Central African Republic.
Swiss civil aviation officials also said they plan to release a similar list
Thursday.
Proposals for a European blacklist are still being prepared, prompting
individual countries to take action in the meantime.
Starting Sept. 8, EU states will meet in Brussels to work on harmonizing
rules to ban or suspend a company's flights, EU Transport Commissioner
Jacques Barrot said.
Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said he
hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
Though all the airlines had been banned in recent years, France had never
before made a blacklist public.
"We also hope this list will persuade foreign companies who want to come to
France to be more rigorous," Coffin told a news conference.
Thailand's Phuket Airways, one of the airlines banned in France, demanded to
know what criteria France used to judge it.
"I really don't understand what is the meaning of unsafe. Unsafe for what?
Unsafe for operations or unsafe for what? Because we have never had a
serious incident or accident, so I would like to ask back to the authorities
what is the meaning of unsafe?" Capt. Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, executive
vice president of Phuket Air, said in Bangkok.
Because air accidents are still so rare ‹ despite this month's spike ‹
airline records fail to tell the whole story, safety specialists say.
In France, many questioned the reliability blacklists.
"Publishing lists is completely ineffective," said Marc Chernet, president
of an association for victims of a Flash Airlines plane crash in the Red Sea
in June 2004. The plane, heading to Paris, crashed after taking off from
Sharm El-Sheik, Egypt, killing 148 people, mostly French tourists.
The French and Belgian measures were announced following five aviation
accidents in the past few months, including one involving a
Colombian-registered charter that crashed in Venezuela, killing 152 French
citizens from the Caribbean island of Martinique.
On Saturday, a charter flight from Turkish company Fly Air was grounded at
Paris' Roissy airport with tire problems and a small fuel leak. That company
was not on France's blacklist.
The U.S. has a slightly different system that focuses on countries rather
than airlines, and uses aviation safety standards set by the International
Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency headquartered in
Montreal. Twenty-six of the 100 countries that have been assessed do not
meet ICAO standards, most in Africa, South America and the Caribbean.
France's list of banned airlines is: Air Koryo of North Korea; Air St.
Thomas of the U.S. Virgin Islands; International Air Services of Liberia;
Thailand's Phuket Airlines; and Linhas Aereas de Mocambique and
Transairways, both from Mozambique.
On the Belgian list were Africa Lines of the Central African Republic; Air
Memphis from Egypt; Air Van Airlines of Armenia; Central Air Express from
Congo; Libya's ICTTPW; International Air Tours Limited from Nigeria;
Johnsons Air Limited of Ghana; Silverback Cargo Freighters from Rwanda; and
South Airlines of Ukraine.
Aug 29th 2005, 8:05 am
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Re: France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
Duh old news
Everyone heard about that 1000 times
You're as useless as the stuff you serve
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
BF391573.77F4D%[email protected]...
> France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
> By SOPHIE NICHOLSON, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
> France and Belgium have issued blacklists of airlines prohibited from
> using
> their airports, an attempt to allay public fears about flying after a
> recent
> series of deadly crashes.
> The French list released late Sunday comprises six companies from the U.S.
> Virgin Islands, Thailand, North Korea, Mozambique and Liberia. Belgium's
> list released Monday includes nine airlines from Egypt, Armenia, Congo,
> Libya, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, Ukraine and the Central African Republic.
> Swiss civil aviation officials also said they plan to release a similar
> list
> Thursday.
> Proposals for a European blacklist are still being prepared, prompting
> individual countries to take action in the meantime.
> Starting Sept. 8, EU states will meet in Brussels to work on harmonizing
> rules to ban or suspend a company's flights, EU Transport Commissioner
> Jacques Barrot said.
> Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said
> he
> hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
> Though all the airlines had been banned in recent years, France had never
> before made a blacklist public.
> "We also hope this list will persuade foreign companies who want to come
> to
> France to be more rigorous," Coffin told a news conference.
> Thailand's Phuket Airways, one of the airlines banned in France, demanded
> to
> know what criteria France used to judge it.
> "I really don't understand what is the meaning of unsafe. Unsafe for what?
> Unsafe for operations or unsafe for what? Because we have never had a
> serious incident or accident, so I would like to ask back to the
> authorities
> what is the meaning of unsafe?" Capt. Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, executive
> vice president of Phuket Air, said in Bangkok.
> Because air accidents are still so rare < despite this month's spike <
> airline records fail to tell the whole story, safety specialists say.
> In France, many questioned the reliability blacklists.
> "Publishing lists is completely ineffective," said Marc Chernet, president
> of an association for victims of a Flash Airlines plane crash in the Red
> Sea
> in June 2004. The plane, heading to Paris, crashed after taking off from
> Sharm El-Sheik, Egypt, killing 148 people, mostly French tourists.
> The French and Belgian measures were announced following five aviation
> accidents in the past few months, including one involving a
> Colombian-registered charter that crashed in Venezuela, killing 152 French
> citizens from the Caribbean island of Martinique.
> On Saturday, a charter flight from Turkish company Fly Air was grounded at
> Paris' Roissy airport with tire problems and a small fuel leak. That
> company
> was not on France's blacklist.
> The U.S. has a slightly different system that focuses on countries rather
> than airlines, and uses aviation safety standards set by the International
> Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency headquartered in
> Montreal. Twenty-six of the 100 countries that have been assessed do not
> meet ICAO standards, most in Africa, South America and the Caribbean.
> France's list of banned airlines is: Air Koryo of North Korea; Air St.
> Thomas of the U.S. Virgin Islands; International Air Services of Liberia;
> Thailand's Phuket Airlines; and Linhas Aereas de Mocambique and
> Transairways, both from Mozambique.
> On the Belgian list were Africa Lines of the Central African Republic; Air
> Memphis from Egypt; Air Van Airlines of Armenia; Central Air Express from
> Congo; Libya's ICTTPW; International Air Tours Limited from Nigeria;
> Johnsons Air Limited of Ghana; Silverback Cargo Freighters from Rwanda;
> and
> South Airlines of Ukraine.
>
Everyone heard about that 1000 times
You're as useless as the stuff you serve
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
BF391573.77F4D%[email protected]...
> France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
> By SOPHIE NICHOLSON, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
> France and Belgium have issued blacklists of airlines prohibited from
> using
> their airports, an attempt to allay public fears about flying after a
> recent
> series of deadly crashes.
> The French list released late Sunday comprises six companies from the U.S.
> Virgin Islands, Thailand, North Korea, Mozambique and Liberia. Belgium's
> list released Monday includes nine airlines from Egypt, Armenia, Congo,
> Libya, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, Ukraine and the Central African Republic.
> Swiss civil aviation officials also said they plan to release a similar
> list
> Thursday.
> Proposals for a European blacklist are still being prepared, prompting
> individual countries to take action in the meantime.
> Starting Sept. 8, EU states will meet in Brussels to work on harmonizing
> rules to ban or suspend a company's flights, EU Transport Commissioner
> Jacques Barrot said.
> Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said
> he
> hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
> Though all the airlines had been banned in recent years, France had never
> before made a blacklist public.
> "We also hope this list will persuade foreign companies who want to come
> to
> France to be more rigorous," Coffin told a news conference.
> Thailand's Phuket Airways, one of the airlines banned in France, demanded
> to
> know what criteria France used to judge it.
> "I really don't understand what is the meaning of unsafe. Unsafe for what?
> Unsafe for operations or unsafe for what? Because we have never had a
> serious incident or accident, so I would like to ask back to the
> authorities
> what is the meaning of unsafe?" Capt. Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, executive
> vice president of Phuket Air, said in Bangkok.
> Because air accidents are still so rare < despite this month's spike <
> airline records fail to tell the whole story, safety specialists say.
> In France, many questioned the reliability blacklists.
> "Publishing lists is completely ineffective," said Marc Chernet, president
> of an association for victims of a Flash Airlines plane crash in the Red
> Sea
> in June 2004. The plane, heading to Paris, crashed after taking off from
> Sharm El-Sheik, Egypt, killing 148 people, mostly French tourists.
> The French and Belgian measures were announced following five aviation
> accidents in the past few months, including one involving a
> Colombian-registered charter that crashed in Venezuela, killing 152 French
> citizens from the Caribbean island of Martinique.
> On Saturday, a charter flight from Turkish company Fly Air was grounded at
> Paris' Roissy airport with tire problems and a small fuel leak. That
> company
> was not on France's blacklist.
> The U.S. has a slightly different system that focuses on countries rather
> than airlines, and uses aviation safety standards set by the International
> Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency headquartered in
> Montreal. Twenty-six of the 100 countries that have been assessed do not
> meet ICAO standards, most in Africa, South America and the Caribbean.
> France's list of banned airlines is: Air Koryo of North Korea; Air St.
> Thomas of the U.S. Virgin Islands; International Air Services of Liberia;
> Thailand's Phuket Airlines; and Linhas Aereas de Mocambique and
> Transairways, both from Mozambique.
> On the Belgian list were Africa Lines of the Central African Republic; Air
> Memphis from Egypt; Air Van Airlines of Armenia; Central Air Express from
> Congo; Libya's ICTTPW; International Air Tours Limited from Nigeria;
> Johnsons Air Limited of Ghana; Silverback Cargo Freighters from Rwanda;
> and
> South Airlines of Ukraine.
>
Aug 29th 2005, 1:35 pm
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Re: France, Belgium Publish Carrier Blacklist
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:41:39 +0200, Earl Evleth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said he
>hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
There are some jobs which should require some incumbents to
change their names.
Reminds me of my time in the RAAF, being treated by Dr
Killer, Dr Death and Nurse Bones. I kid you not.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Maxime Coffin, test director at the French civil aviation authority, said he
>hoped the list would speed up Europe's efforts.
There are some jobs which should require some incumbents to
change their names.
Reminds me of my time in the RAAF, being treated by Dr
Killer, Dr Death and Nurse Bones. I kid you not.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
