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Bluecaper Jan 2nd 2005 4:46 pm

First vs. second class
 
My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?

Miguel Cruz Jan 2nd 2005 5:03 pm

Re: First vs. second class
 
Bluecaper <[email protected]> wrote:
    > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    > saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    > is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?

From where and on what mode of travel?

miguel
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Roger \ Jan 3rd 2005 12:28 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote...
    | Bluecaper <[email protected]> wrote:
    | > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating
    | > the flexi saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class).
    | > The cost for youth is about 180 USD less. Any comments re:
    | > the different class of travel?
    |From where and on what mode of travel?

Trains in Austria, I imagine. I think that it depends on who's paying
the bill and whether she's counting her pennies. If you are, then I'd
go 1st class. If she is and the budget is tight, I'd go 2nd class. The
savings make the slight down-grade in comfort worthwhile, IMO.
OTOH, if she's one who likes to pamper herself, the extra-padding
in 1st class would fit her style.

OughtFour Jan 3rd 2005 1:22 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
Bluecaper wrote:
    > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    > saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    > is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?

They both manage to complete the same trip in exactly the same amount of
time.

Gernot Egger Jan 3rd 2005 1:24 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
Bluecaper wrote:
    > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the
    > flexi saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The
    > cost for youth is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different
    > class of travel?

2nd!
Where is the difference? Apart of the price!

lg Gernot

News.Erols.Com Jan 3rd 2005 2:41 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
If you are an American, 2nd class on a European train is better than
anything you'll see in the states. 1st calss is a waste of money.

News.Erols.Com Jan 3rd 2005 2:42 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
If you are an American, 2nd class on a European train is better than
anything you'll see in the states. 1st calss is a waste of money.

Jordi Jan 3rd 2005 2:54 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
news.erols.com wrote:
    > If you are an American, 2nd class on a European train is better than
    > anything you'll see in the states. 1st calss is a waste of money.
Except for night trains, IMHO.


J.

Mimi Jan 3rd 2005 3:51 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
"Bluecaper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    > saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    > is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?

The students and young people are all in second class. Your daughter will
meet more people, get into more conversations in second class.

Marianne

Henry Jan 3rd 2005 4:32 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
Mimi <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Bluecaper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    > > saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    > > is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?
    >
    > The students and young people are all in second class. Your daughter will
    > meet more people, get into more conversations in second class.

Yes, but...remember that with a first class ticket, it _is_ allowed to
travel in second class if you should happen to meet people you want to
converse with, etc. But when you want a little less of the hurly and
burly, it's nice to be able to retreat to the potentially more tranquil
first class carriage. This is especially true of night trains, where you
can sometimes save the cost of a room and still rest/sleep enough to
feel human the next day. Finally, some stations have separate first
class waiting rooms to which the eligible may repair if they choose.

cheers,

Henry

Rita Jan 3rd 2005 4:58 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:51:12 GMT, "Mimi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Bluecaper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    >> saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    >> is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?
    >The students and young people are all in second class. Your daughter will
    >meet more people, get into more conversations in second class.
    >Marianne

I think this is an issue to consider for a young person. First
class seems to be filled with business people and upscale tourists.
I've traveled first class with a Eurail pass, but find second class
quite satisfactory.

Dgs Jan 3rd 2005 7:52 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
news.erols.com wrote:

    > If you are an American, 2nd class on a European train is better than
    > anything you'll see in the states.

Simply untrue. I've ridden second-class on Amtrak. No worse than
second class on Eurotrains. Amtrak's problem isn't quality of
accomodation on the trains, it's a poor on-time record outside of its
densely populated and heavily traveled northeastern segments.

    > 1st calss is a waste of money.

Some people like to treat themselves to a bit more space and
privacy. 1st class offers just that, and sometimes a little bit
more.
--
dgs

EvelynVogtGamble Jan 3rd 2005 9:41 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
Bluecaper wrote:

    > My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    > saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    > is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?

If I could afford it, I would ALWAYS travel either First or
Business class to Europe (if it were a difference of a mere
180 USD, I'd consider it well worth it, and never hesitate)!
I'm not sure from where in the U.S. your daughter will be
starting, but the flight from LAX to Europe is eleven or
twelve hours, and coach class can become DECIDEDLY cramped
on such a long flight. Quite apart from the (marginally)
better food, first and business classes have somewhat larger
seats, and allow passengers more leg room. (Even footrests,
on some carriers.)

EvelynVogtGamble Jan 3rd 2005 9:42 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
OughtFour wrote:

    > Bluecaper wrote:
    >
    >>My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    >>saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    >>is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?
    >
    >
    > They both manage to complete the same trip in exactly the same amount of
    > time.

I don't think that was the question. :-)

Hatunen Jan 3rd 2005 11:40 am

Re: First vs. second class
 
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:41:25 -0800,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Bluecaper wrote:
    >> My daughter is leaving for Salzburg in 10 days and is debating the flexi
    >> saver (first class) vs. the youth flexi (second class). The cost for youth
    >> is about 180 USD less. Any comments re: the different class of travel?
    >If I could afford it, I would ALWAYS travel either First or
    >Business class to Europe (if it were a difference of a mere
    >180 USD, I'd consider it well worth it, and never hesitate)!
    > I'm not sure from where in the U.S. your daughter will be
    >starting, but the flight from LAX to Europe is eleven or
    >twelve hours, and coach class can become DECIDEDLY cramped
    >on such a long flight. Quite apart from the (marginally)
    >better food, first and business classes have somewhat larger
    >seats, and allow passengers more leg room. (Even footrests,
    >on some carriers.)

The subject is trains, not planes. The passes mentioned are train
passes.

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