David

Could some kind person please recommend a dentist in (or near to)
Rotterdam, Holland. I shall be there at the end of August and need
dental treatment, which is currently not available near my home in
England (except at an extortionate price).

I actually need to have at least one wisdom tooth extracted and so
need to find a practice equipped for surgery, as opposed to basic
dentistry. And of course I would like to find a dentist who operates
within the public sector, so that part of the cost will be covered
under the E111 scheme for reciprocal use of medical facilities within
the EU.

Thank you for any help.

Sjoerd

"david" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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    > Could some kind person please recommend a dentist in (or near to)
    > Rotterdam, Holland. I shall be there at the end of August and need
    > dental treatment, which is currently not available near my home in
    > England (except at an extortionate price).
    > I actually need to have at least one wisdom tooth extracted and so
    > need to find a practice equipped for surgery, as opposed to basic
    > dentistry. And of course I would like to find a dentist who operates
    > within the public sector, so that part of the cost will be covered
    > under the E111 scheme for reciprocal use of medical facilities within
    > the EU.

Here

http://www.strweb.info/01c0b494341364a04/index.html

is a list of some of the dentists ("tandartsen") in Rotterdam.

I doubt, though, that you can get any treatment which is not an emergency.
There are not enough dentists in the Netherlands' big cities, and they
generally only help their known patients (except for emergencies)

Sjoerd


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David Horne

Sjoerd <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "david" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Could some kind person please recommend a dentist in (or near to)
    > > Rotterdam, Holland. I shall be there at the end of August and need
    > > dental treatment, which is currently not available near my home in
    > > England (except at an extortionate price).
    > >
    > > I actually need to have at least one wisdom tooth extracted and so
    > > need to find a practice equipped for surgery, as opposed to basic
    > > dentistry. And of course I would like to find a dentist who operates
    > > within the public sector, so that part of the cost will be covered
    > > under the E111 scheme for reciprocal use of medical facilities within
    > > the EU.
    >
    > Here
    >
    > http://www.strweb.info/01c0b494341364a04/index.html
    >
    > is a list of some of the dentists ("tandartsen") in Rotterdam.
    >
    > I doubt, though, that you can get any treatment which is not an emergency.
    > There are not enough dentists in the Netherlands' big cities, and they
    > generally only help their known patients (except for emergencies)

The OP is an example of many people in the UK who now have little or no
access to an NHS dentist. Quite a few people are apparently going to
Budapest for serious dental work- there are cheap flights there now, and
the dental work is excellent and cheap.

My partner's mum recently flew to Peru from the US, mainly to have
dental work done. The savings for her treatment there were around
$2,000- and she flew there for around a quarter of that...

In the UK, it does seem to depend a lot on where you live. It's still
possible to find NHS dentists in the Manchester area, but they're
getting few and far between.

David

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Tom Bellhouse

"Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "david" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Could some kind person please recommend a dentist in (or near to)
    > > Rotterdam, Holland. I shall be there at the end of August and need
    > > dental treatment, which is currently not available near my home in
    > > England (except at an extortionate price).
    > >
    > > I actually need to have at least one wisdom tooth extracted and so
    > > need to find a practice equipped for surgery, as opposed to basic
    > > dentistry. And of course I would like to find a dentist who
operates
    > > within the public sector, so that part of the cost will be covered
    > > under the E111 scheme for reciprocal use of medical facilities
within
    > > the EU.
    > Here
    > http://www.strweb.info/01c0b494341364a04/index.html
    > is a list of some of the dentists ("tandartsen") in Rotterdam.
    > I doubt, though, that you can get any treatment which is not an
emergency.
    > There are not enough dentists in the Netherlands' big cities, and they
    > generally only help their known patients (except for emergencies)
    > Sjoerd

Sjoerd,

My son was in Sittard swimming and broke off his two front teeth diving.
We made a lot of calls and found what you describe -- not enough
dentists, and most practices were "full." We also found that the
dentists in our town had an emergency person on duty on Saturdays and
Sundays, not closed to new patients. We were able to book the necessary
dental work through that person.

Perhaps the OP could make a preliminary trip to the NL to find a dentist
with an open practice. They do exist, they're just hard to find.

Dutch dentists are fast. Ever had a 10 minute filling?

Tom

Owain

"Tom Bellhouse" wrote
    | Dutch dentists are fast. Ever had a 10 minute filling?

I think I've had an x-ray, filling, scale and polish in 20. Including time
for the anaesthetic to take.

I like dentists who get the job done quickly. Sometimes I even get out of
the surgery before I remember I'm dentophobic and start having the
climbing-the-walls panic attacks.

If my (NHS) dentist were any faster, he'd have two chairs in the surgery :-)

Owain

David

My thanks to all who responded, particularly to Sjoerd for the list of
dentists.

I sent the list to the organisers of the conference I shall be
attending, asking them if they could find out if I could be treated.
Their response was disappointing:

Concerning the dentists: most of them are on holiday at the moment,
but some
other dentists informed me about the fact that they will not remove
wisdom
tooth. This needs to be taken out in hospital and this is not possible
as
the dentists and hospitals are fully booked for that period in
Rotterdam.

So the British tooth problem is not unique. However, two items from
my local newspaper show just how desperate the situation is here: one
man came near to death
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...entPK=10694163

and this person sounds in utter despair
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...entPK=10692999

What I do not understand is why our many dentists (who are now
refusing to work within the health service because private practice
pays even more) are regarded as respectable professionals. From my
point of view, flogging is too good for them!

Zemedelec

If there's a cavity in the tooth, not just incomplete emergemce or tangled
roots (I know roots: one of my wisdom teeth came out in 17 pieces--I WISH it
had been in the hospital--try oil of cloves on a cotton ball in the cavilty for
short term relief--it
s avaiable without prescription in the US,
zemedelec

nitram

On 12 Aug 2004 13:42:10 GMT, [email protected]pamfree (Zemedelec)
wrote:

    >If there's a cavity in the tooth, not just incomplete emergemce or tangled
    >roots (I know roots: one of my wisdom teeth came out in 17 pieces--I WISH it
    >had been in the hospital--try oil of cloves on a cotton ball in the cavilty for
    >short term relief--it
    >s avaiable without prescription in the US,

Stroh Rhum is equally effective and is available all over Europe.

Luca Logi

david <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I actually need to have at least one wisdom tooth extracted and so
    > need to find a practice equipped for surgery, as opposed to basic
    > dentistry. And of course I would like to find a dentist who operates
    > within the public sector, so that part of the cost will be covered
    > under the E111 scheme for reciprocal use of medical facilities within
    > the EU.

I checked an E111 form, and it says that if you travel in order to get
medical cures, they are not covered under the E111 agreement (in other
words, E111 covers unexpected travel emergencies). As E111 forms have a
standard wording in all languages, I would expect that also the British
one would exclude such a thing.

I had a wisdom tooth removed by an ordinary dentist; but we made a
special arrangment (X-rays were taken and studied in advance, and a
whole morning reserved for the operation, that actually turned out to be
easier and faster then originally planned). My wife had a much more
difficult wisdom tooth removed, that turned out to require surgery at a
day hospital, again well prepared and planned in advance. (My removal
was done as private practise at my own expense, my wife did it at a
stomatological hospital unit under NHS). In both cases, I do not see how
the thing can be done in rushed conditions: probably nobody would accept
to treat your problem without checking you in advance. After the
operation you feel battered enough (my wife did suffer for several
days).

I also heard about the flights to Budapest with dental care included...


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