European domestic flights and smoking
May 30th 2003, 11:23 pm
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Re: European domestic flights and smoking
> At the risk of starting another "let's all bash smokers" thread, this
> could be a business opportunity for an enterprising airline. Why not
> have flights where you MUST smoke?
Excellent suggestion! Let's base it in Germany, where our government is
about to raise taxes for tobacco. Boy, that should balance out our federal
budget in no time!
:-)
R
> could be a business opportunity for an enterprising airline. Why not
> have flights where you MUST smoke?
Excellent suggestion! Let's base it in Germany, where our government is
about to raise taxes for tobacco. Boy, that should balance out our federal
budget in no time!
:-)
R
May 31st 2003, 9:28 am
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"The Reid" wrote in message
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> Following up to Kristian
> > I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries
> thats stretching Europe a bit!
Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to Kristian
> > I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries
> thats stretching Europe a bit!
Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
May 31st 2003, 9:32 pm
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Kristian wrote:
> I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries about 2
> years ago , where you could request a smokers seat.The back 10 or so
> rows were set aside for smokers. Eventhough I am a smoker myself I
> took a non smoking seat. I could just imagine how it would be to be
> stuck in the middle seat between two heavy smokers. And besides that a
> cigarette simply doesn`t taste right in an airplane.
In the days when BA still had smoking on flights, I was once stuck in
smoking on a transatlantic journey because nothing else was available.
There were a few spare seats next to me, which two people kept on
leaving their non-smoking seats further down the plane to come and "have
a smoke" in. Of course, they didn't want to sit in smoking- no, no, that
would be too uncomfortable. Bastards.
FWIW, a few months later, I was told I could only get a smoking seat on
a similar BA flight, and I refused- saying they could route me any way
they wanted, but I'd refuse to sit in smoking again. As it turned out
they upgraded me to business, and I was happy.
David
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> I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries about 2
> years ago , where you could request a smokers seat.The back 10 or so
> rows were set aside for smokers. Eventhough I am a smoker myself I
> took a non smoking seat. I could just imagine how it would be to be
> stuck in the middle seat between two heavy smokers. And besides that a
> cigarette simply doesn`t taste right in an airplane.
In the days when BA still had smoking on flights, I was once stuck in
smoking on a transatlantic journey because nothing else was available.
There were a few spare seats next to me, which two people kept on
leaving their non-smoking seats further down the plane to come and "have
a smoke" in. Of course, they didn't want to sit in smoking- no, no, that
would be too uncomfortable. Bastards.
FWIW, a few months later, I was told I could only get a smoking seat on
a similar BA flight, and I refused- saying they could route me any way
they wanted, but I'd refuse to sit in smoking again. As it turned out
they upgraded me to business, and I was happy.
David
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davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 31st 2003, 9:43 pm
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Re: European domestic flights and smoking
Nick Davies wrote:
> Despite what the others say, just come back from Malaga to Gatwick on Air
Europa. Back
> couple of rows were smoking.
For a list of scheduled airlines that still permit smoking, see:
http://hem.passagen.se/fungus/airlines.html
JU (Yugoslav) is one within Europe that still permits smoking.
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Greg
> Despite what the others say, just come back from Malaga to Gatwick on Air
Europa. Back
> couple of rows were smoking.
For a list of scheduled airlines that still permit smoking, see:
http://hem.passagen.se/fungus/airlines.html
JU (Yugoslav) is one within Europe that still permits smoking.
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Greg
May 31st 2003, 10:39 pm
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[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>Kristian wrote:
>> I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries about 2
>> years ago , where you could request a smokers seat.The back 10 or so
>> rows were set aside for smokers. Eventhough I am a smoker myself I
>> took a non smoking seat. I could just imagine how it would be to be
>> stuck in the middle seat between two heavy smokers. And besides that a
>> cigarette simply doesn`t taste right in an airplane.
>In the days when BA still had smoking on flights, I was once stuck in
>smoking on a transatlantic journey because nothing else was available.
>There were a few spare seats next to me, which two people kept on
>leaving their non-smoking seats further down the plane to come and "have
>a smoke" in. Of course, they didn't want to sit in smoking- no, no, that
>would be too uncomfortable. Bastards.
>David
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I´ve had the same experience on trains, when I´ve been seated in a
smoking section on longer journeys . If you happen to have a vacant
seat next to you , you risc having a continous stream of people from
non smoking who "just want to sit for a moment for a smoke." And often
they will leave some trash behind as well, like an empty bottle,
coffee cups,newspaper etc.
By the way , on the above flight they expressly forbid people to
sneak from non smoking to smoking section.
Kristian
>Kristian wrote:
>> I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries about 2
>> years ago , where you could request a smokers seat.The back 10 or so
>> rows were set aside for smokers. Eventhough I am a smoker myself I
>> took a non smoking seat. I could just imagine how it would be to be
>> stuck in the middle seat between two heavy smokers. And besides that a
>> cigarette simply doesn`t taste right in an airplane.
>In the days when BA still had smoking on flights, I was once stuck in
>smoking on a transatlantic journey because nothing else was available.
>There were a few spare seats next to me, which two people kept on
>leaving their non-smoking seats further down the plane to come and "have
>a smoke" in. Of course, they didn't want to sit in smoking- no, no, that
>would be too uncomfortable. Bastards.
>David
----------------
I´ve had the same experience on trains, when I´ve been seated in a
smoking section on longer journeys . If you happen to have a vacant
seat next to you , you risc having a continous stream of people from
non smoking who "just want to sit for a moment for a smoke." And often
they will leave some trash behind as well, like an empty bottle,
coffee cups,newspaper etc.
By the way , on the above flight they expressly forbid people to
sneak from non smoking to smoking section.
Kristian
Jun 1st 2003, 4:57 am
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Jonathan Morton schrieb:
>
> "The Reid" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Following up to Kristian
> >
> > > I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries
> >
> > thats stretching Europe a bit!
>
> Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
We have purists in the NG who maintain that the Canaries are not
part of Europe and therefore OT. In some ways the Canaries resemble
South America more than mainland Spain, however they are definitely
in no way African, neither culturally nor historically.
Tom
>
> "The Reid" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Following up to Kristian
> >
> > > I was on a charter flight from Copenhagen to the Canaries
> >
> > thats stretching Europe a bit!
>
> Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
We have purists in the NG who maintain that the Canaries are not
part of Europe and therefore OT. In some ways the Canaries resemble
South America more than mainland Spain, however they are definitely
in no way African, neither culturally nor historically.
Tom
Jun 1st 2003, 6:56 pm
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Following up to Wolfgang Schwanke
>> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
>It has been for a couple 100 million years.
Is Moscow that old? :-)
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>> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
>It has been for a couple 100 million years.
Is Moscow that old? :-)
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"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
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Jun 1st 2003, 6:56 pm
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Following up to Judith Umbria
>> Politically european union with a special status, geographically not?
>> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
>> --
>> Mike Reid
>I never thought it was anywhere else! Do you consider it Asian?
I'm pretty sure Europe ends at the Urals in that direction, political
"Europe" (as in including the Canaries) ends much further west at the
moment. But I realise my statement didnt really have the impact I
hoped as I was forgetting its geographically in while I was hoping to
get the "Russia joins EU, shock" reaction, if you see what I mean?
Probably not, i'm in a hole, shall I stop digging? :-)
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>> Politically european union with a special status, geographically not?
>> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
>> --
>> Mike Reid
>I never thought it was anywhere else! Do you consider it Asian?
I'm pretty sure Europe ends at the Urals in that direction, political
"Europe" (as in including the Canaries) ends much further west at the
moment. But I realise my statement didnt really have the impact I
hoped as I was forgetting its geographically in while I was hoping to
get the "Russia joins EU, shock" reaction, if you see what I mean?
Probably not, i'm in a hole, shall I stop digging? :-)
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
Jun 1st 2003, 8:35 pm
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Following up to Thomas Peel
>> > thats stretching Europe a bit!
>>
>> Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
>We have purists in the NG who maintain that the Canaries are not
>part of Europe and therefore OT. In some ways the Canaries resemble
>South America more than mainland Spain, however they are definitely
>in no way African, neither culturally nor historically.
I think they do resemble south america a bit, certainly in the way
they are Spanish speaking but not in Europe! :-)
I'd be the last to worry about being purist about what gets discussed,
its just that dustance (flying down to Africa for 4 hours+) is
relevant to smoking rules. If people want to discuss Cuerta or
Melillla, the two Spanish colonies in mainland Africa, I certainly
wont start an argument, although Hong Kong, when it was British would
have started to get a bit silly!
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Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
>> > thats stretching Europe a bit!
>>
>> Err... why? Aren't Spain and Denmark both in Europe?
>We have purists in the NG who maintain that the Canaries are not
>part of Europe and therefore OT. In some ways the Canaries resemble
>South America more than mainland Spain, however they are definitely
>in no way African, neither culturally nor historically.
I think they do resemble south america a bit, certainly in the way
they are Spanish speaking but not in Europe! :-)
I'd be the last to worry about being purist about what gets discussed,
its just that dustance (flying down to Africa for 4 hours+) is
relevant to smoking rules. If people want to discuss Cuerta or
Melillla, the two Spanish colonies in mainland Africa, I certainly
wont start an argument, although Hong Kong, when it was British would
have started to get a bit silly!
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
Jun 1st 2003, 9:56 pm
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Magda wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 15:25:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Nick Davies
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Despite what the others say, just come back from Malaga to Gatwick on Air Europa. Back
> ... couple of rows were smoking.
> And you didn't complain ??
No, why on earth should I? I bought a ticket on an airline that permits smoking, so it's no
business of mine to complain. Doesn't bother me in the slightest anyway.
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 15:25:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Nick Davies
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... Despite what the others say, just come back from Malaga to Gatwick on Air Europa. Back
> ... couple of rows were smoking.
> And you didn't complain ??
No, why on earth should I? I bought a ticket on an airline that permits smoking, so it's no
business of mine to complain. Doesn't bother me in the slightest anyway.
Jun 2nd 2003, 8:31 am
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:56:38 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reid
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Following up to Wolfgang Schwanke
...
... >> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
... >
... >It has been for a couple 100 million years.
...
... Is Moscow that old? :-)
The Earth *is* even older than that ! ;-)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Following up to Wolfgang Schwanke
...
... >> One day maybe Moscow will be in "Europe".
... >
... >It has been for a couple 100 million years.
...
... Is Moscow that old? :-)
The Earth *is* even older than that ! ;-)
