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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:19:58 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"lo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] roups.com...
    >> Hey everyone,
    >> i'm new to this group and it may be cheeky to start by asking a favour
    >> but, i'm going to anyway. i'm a 4th tourism student in glasgow and i'm
    >> currently researching my dissertation. its about tourism destinations
    >> in Europe, and i have to collect a whole load of responses to my
    >> survey. Since everyone here clearly has an interest in travel, you
    >> would all be perfect participant in my research. all you have to do is
    >> copy and paste the link below into your browser and then answer ten
    >> short questions. its really easy, all you have to do is give your
    >> opinions on some cities by ticking boxes, and it would really help me
    >> out. i promise it only takes two minutes.
    >> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=29053807089
    >> thanks very much
    >> Lo x
    >I've done it.
    >For those who are unsure the javascripts are just for a fancy tick box
    >thing. Why they couldn't have used standard web forms I don't know.

From a cursory look at the html/javascript behind it, it has obviously
been generated by a package of some sort. There is a collosal amount
of javascript in there that is completely unnecessary, as you say.

For those programmers out there, witness this masterpiece of coding:

function NextFunction() {
cancelSubmit = false;
cancelAlert = false;
secondaryAlert = false;
secondaryAlertText = '';
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }
if (cancelSubmit == true || secondaryAlert == true) { AlertFunction();
return; }


if (cancelSubmit == false) {
document.Form1.action =
'/s.asp?SurveyAction=Next&U=29053807089&Rnd=0.560613 ';
document.Form1.submit();
}
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:40:09 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"nightjar" <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
    >>Questionnaires are one of my pet hates and I never complete them.
    >I often do. So I have contributed more to perceptions of the world
    >that you have. If you claim that you have contributed more to the
    >actual world, I won't argue about that.

I occasionally complete them, filling them will utterly useless
selections. Web questionnaires are entirely random creations, even at
best, and have heavily skewed results. Any study based on them is also
flawed, as you need to ensure a reasonable cross-section of people.
You can't find that on usenet, as certain types accumulate in certain
groups.

For instance, comparing Glasgow, Dublin, Prague, and Milan is flawed
from the outset, as they are very, very different cities. Add to that
the fact that I live in Milan, skews my results again, as it does not
interrogate me further on this point. I could have been born here, or
have arrived only 2 weeks ago.

Need I go on?
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Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:40:09 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"nightjar" <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
    >>>Questionnaires are one of my pet hates and I never complete them.
    >>I often do. So I have contributed more to perceptions of the world
    >>that you have. If you claim that you have contributed more to the
    >>actual world, I won't argue about that.
    >I occasionally complete them, filling them will utterly useless
    >selections. Web questionnaires are entirely random creations, even at
    >best, and have heavily skewed results. Any study based on them is also
    >flawed, as you need to ensure a reasonable cross-section of people.
    >You can't find that on usenet, as certain types accumulate in certain
    >groups.
    >For instance, comparing Glasgow, Dublin, Prague, and Milan is flawed
    >from the outset, as they are very, very different cities. Add to that
    >the fact that I live in Milan, skews my results again, as it does not
    >interrogate me further on this point. I could have been born here, or
    >have arrived only 2 weeks ago.
    >Need I go on?
If the OP is reading, it might be very good if you went on.

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:35:40 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:33:08 -0000, "nightjar"
    ><nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
    >>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]. ..
    >>> "nightjar" <nightjar@<insert_my_surname_here>.uk.com> wrote:
    >>>>Questionnaires are one of my pet hates and I never complete them.
    >>> I often do. So I have contributed more to perceptions of the world
    >>> that you have. If you claim that you have contributed more to the
    >>> actual world, I won't argue about that.
    >>Not knowing what contributions you have made to the world, nor how one
    >>judges one person's contribution for that matter, I wouldn't make such a
    >>claim.
    >>The problem with questionnaires is that they only produce a representative
    >>sample of the views of people who complete questionnaires. For the data to
    >>be meaningful, it needs to be related to the views of the population as a
    >>whole. That usually requires a properly designed opinion poll, the cost of
    >>which is often why people send out questionnaires instead.
    >>I simply get sent too many questionnaires to want to spend 'only' the 20 or
    >>30 minutes of my time most say they will take to complete and none of the
    >>senders would, I am sure, be willing to pay a commercial rate for my time if
    >>I did.
    >There was a woman in Turin Airport offering a free film if you would
    >fill in a questionnaire. It didn't seem to worry her that people were
    >answering NO to every question.

I am sure it's not a requirement for her to influence the results in
any way.

An unsolicited opinion is worth far more than one you ask for. If you
offer a free something for a few scribbles on a piece of paper, don't
expect good results.
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