English Language in Paris
Aug 8th 2007, 2:45 pm
#91
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Re: English Language in Paris
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
>> >> >They travel here. Everyone does.
>> >>
>> >> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
>> >
>> >That's a lot of people in the case of Paris.
>>
>> but not everyone
>
>Most people.
he said "everyone"
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>> >> >They travel here. Everyone does.
>> >>
>> >> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
>> >
>> >That's a lot of people in the case of Paris.
>>
>> but not everyone
>
>Most people.
he said "everyone"
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Aug 8th 2007, 2:46 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
> (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >> >They travel here. Everyone does.
> >> >>
> >> >> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
> >> >
> >> >That's a lot of people in the case of Paris.
> >>
> >> but not everyone
> >
> >Most people.
>
> he said "everyone"
I think it's quite clear what that meant.
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> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
> (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >> >They travel here. Everyone does.
> >> >>
> >> >> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
> >> >
> >> >That's a lot of people in the case of Paris.
> >>
> >> but not everyone
> >
> >Most people.
>
> he said "everyone"
I think it's quite clear what that meant.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Aug 8th 2007, 2:49 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
>> >Most people.
>>
>> he said "everyone"
>
>I think it's quite clear what that meant.
I think it's quite clear what he said.
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(*)) wrote:
>> >Most people.
>>
>> he said "everyone"
>
>I think it's quite clear what that meant.
I think it's quite clear what he said.
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Aug 8th 2007, 2:54 pm
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> The Japanese are like the French in that they study English extensively
> at school but often cannot use it for practical communication at all.
> And Japanese tourists abroad seek out people who can speak Japanese;
> they don't want to speak English if they don't have to.
We get a lot of Japanese tourists in Edinburgh. The ones in groups
are mostly monoglot, the independent travellers know enough English
to get by. Not much different from any other nationality.
One place that seems to have got its act together with English
teaching over the last generation is Iran. I ran into a lot of
Iranian students when I first arrived in Edinburgh, which was in
the last years of the Shah's reign. Their English was uniformly
appalling, so weirdly accented as to be almost unintelligible and
their spelling no better. When you meet Iranians in the UK these
days you could almost take them for Americans. (One possible
explanation might be that the guys I met in the late 70s had got
their UK university place by privilege rather than merit, but
students from equally corrupt societies generally did better).
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> at school but often cannot use it for practical communication at all.
> And Japanese tourists abroad seek out people who can speak Japanese;
> they don't want to speak English if they don't have to.
We get a lot of Japanese tourists in Edinburgh. The ones in groups
are mostly monoglot, the independent travellers know enough English
to get by. Not much different from any other nationality.
One place that seems to have got its act together with English
teaching over the last generation is Iran. I ran into a lot of
Iranian students when I first arrived in Edinburgh, which was in
the last years of the Shah's reign. Their English was uniformly
appalling, so weirdly accented as to be almost unintelligible and
their spelling no better. When you meet Iranians in the UK these
days you could almost take them for Americans. (One possible
explanation might be that the guys I met in the late 70s had got
their UK university place by privilege rather than merit, but
students from equally corrupt societies generally did better).
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
Aug 8th 2007, 2:54 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
In article <1i2i1s8.ba5pfs13je4fiN%[email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > > It's not linguistic arrogance- it's simply the way things turned out-
> > > > i.e. English dominating the world language scene, for the moment
> > > > anyway.
> > > > Who knows what it will be in 300 years? If your average drunken Finn
> > > > meats a French speaker in, say, Ecuador, the language they'll most
> > > > likely use for conversation is English. Most foreign visitors to France
> > > > don't speak French any better than native English speakers do.
> > >
> > > And besides, any English-speaking visitors to France are to be at least
> > > partly forgiven for an initial impression that English is widespread in
> > > France, given how much of the music played everywhere is, in fact,
> > > English.
> > > And what's their fascination with Phil Collins anyway???!!!
> >
> >
> > Inexplicably, they love the TV shows "Saved by the Bell" and
> > "MacGyver".
>
> In the latter, the irony is often missed in the subtitles/dubbing.
How long before someone brings up Jerry Lewis?
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > > It's not linguistic arrogance- it's simply the way things turned out-
> > > > i.e. English dominating the world language scene, for the moment
> > > > anyway.
> > > > Who knows what it will be in 300 years? If your average drunken Finn
> > > > meats a French speaker in, say, Ecuador, the language they'll most
> > > > likely use for conversation is English. Most foreign visitors to France
> > > > don't speak French any better than native English speakers do.
> > >
> > > And besides, any English-speaking visitors to France are to be at least
> > > partly forgiven for an initial impression that English is widespread in
> > > France, given how much of the music played everywhere is, in fact,
> > > English.
> > > And what's their fascination with Phil Collins anyway???!!!
> >
> >
> > Inexplicably, they love the TV shows "Saved by the Bell" and
> > "MacGyver".
>
> In the latter, the irony is often missed in the subtitles/dubbing.
How long before someone brings up Jerry Lewis?
Aug 8th 2007, 2:56 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
In article <1i2i1lg.1av3j981edipzhN%[email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >And besides, any English-speaking visitors to France are to be at least
> > >partly forgiven for an initial impression that English is widespread in
> > >France, given how much of the music played everywhere is, in fact, English.
> > >And what's their fascination with Phil Collins anyway???!!!
> > >
> > A highly-developed sense of irony.
>
> Shit taste, probably. It's a mediterranean thing. I was kept awake one
> night by some Italian crooner in Pula's ampitheatre belting out one
> melodic cliché after another until around 1am, and everytime he came
> back to the refrain, you could hear the entire audience resound to the
> tune. Someone renting a room in the house had come especially from Italy
> just for that night!
>
> Then, at some ungodly hour, so to speak, the bells started...
Isn't White Stripes big in Rome? At least their "Seven Nation Army" is
the anthem of the AS Roma fans.
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >And besides, any English-speaking visitors to France are to be at least
> > >partly forgiven for an initial impression that English is widespread in
> > >France, given how much of the music played everywhere is, in fact, English.
> > >And what's their fascination with Phil Collins anyway???!!!
> > >
> > A highly-developed sense of irony.
>
> Shit taste, probably. It's a mediterranean thing. I was kept awake one
> night by some Italian crooner in Pula's ampitheatre belting out one
> melodic cliché after another until around 1am, and everytime he came
> back to the refrain, you could hear the entire audience resound to the
> tune. Someone renting a room in the house had come especially from Italy
> just for that night!
>
> Then, at some ungodly hour, so to speak, the bells started...
Isn't White Stripes big in Rome? At least their "Seven Nation Army" is
the anthem of the AS Roma fans.
Aug 8th 2007, 2:59 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
> I meant, like, friends.
Most of my friends live far away from me.
> I meant, like, friends.
Most of my friends live far away from me.
Aug 8th 2007, 3:01 pm
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:59:55 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>
>> I meant, like, friends.
>
>Most of my friends live far away from me.
You have no close friends?
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>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>
>> I meant, like, friends.
>
>Most of my friends live far away from me.
You have no close friends?
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Aug 8th 2007, 3:01 pm
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Martin writes:
> That's why they need you.
People with low incomes are less likely to be willing to pay for a private
guide. For similar reasons, most clients are from overseas, since it's cheap
to come here from the UK and many of the people doing so do not have the means
and/or the desire to pay money for a guide. Personally, I prefer to work with
people who aren't counting their pennies all the time.
> That's why they need you.
People with low incomes are less likely to be willing to pay for a private
guide. For similar reasons, most clients are from overseas, since it's cheap
to come here from the UK and many of the people doing so do not have the means
and/or the desire to pay money for a guide. Personally, I prefer to work with
people who aren't counting their pennies all the time.
Aug 8th 2007, 3:02 pm
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The Reid writes:
> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
Twenty-five million of them visit Paris every year, a world record that has
stood year after year for decades.
> no they dont. Only people interested in cities.
Twenty-five million of them visit Paris every year, a world record that has
stood year after year for decades.
Aug 8th 2007, 3:02 pm
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Martin writes:
> Rubbish they are all in Venice or queuing for McKrokets in Volendam.
Venice is popular, but less popular than Paris.
> Small claim to fame?
No, just excellent inside sources of information.
> Rubbish they are all in Venice or queuing for McKrokets in Volendam.
Venice is popular, but less popular than Paris.
> Small claim to fame?
No, just excellent inside sources of information.
Aug 8th 2007, 3:08 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>
> > I meant, like, friends.
>
> Most of my friends live far away from me.
Why?
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>
> > I meant, like, friends.
>
> Most of my friends live far away from me.
Why?
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 8th 2007, 3:08 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin writes:
>
> > That's why they need you.
>
> People with low incomes are less likely to be willing to pay for a private
> guide.
<wooosh>
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(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Martin writes:
>
> > That's why they need you.
>
> People with low incomes are less likely to be willing to pay for a private
> guide.
<wooosh>
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 8th 2007, 3:08 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin writes:
>
> > Rubbish they are all in Venice or queuing for McKrokets in Volendam.
>
> Venice is popular, but less popular than Paris.
<woosh> again
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Martin writes:
>
> > Rubbish they are all in Venice or queuing for McKrokets in Volendam.
>
> Venice is popular, but less popular than Paris.
<woosh> again
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Aug 8th 2007, 3:09 pm
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Re: English Language in Paris
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 16:08:02 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>>
>> > I meant, like, friends.
>>
>> Most of my friends live far away from me.
>
>Why?
Guess?
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chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
>>
>> > I meant, like, friends.
>>
>> Most of my friends live far away from me.
>
>Why?
Guess?
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Martin