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Re: English Language in Paris
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:07:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote: >Hatunen writes: > >> "Modest" for sure. The last residual check I got for a TV show I >> was on in 1976 was $15 US. > >Is there any other work you did in 1976 that you are still getting paid for >now? That's quite irrelevant. If you wrote a book in 1990 and didn't write anymore since, but te book were still selling strongly today, would you forsake the royalty money becuae you did the work 17 years ago? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
Re: English Language in Paris
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:51:12 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted: >poldy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In article <[email protected]>, >> Doesn't Frequently Mop <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >> wrote: >> >> > Make credence recognised that on Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:17:19 -0700, >> > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> has scripted: >> > >> > >On Aug 7, 6:04 am, The Reid <[email protected]> >> > >wrote: >> > >> Others dont respond to poor french. But one copes! >> > > >> > >I barely remember the French I learned in high school several decades >> > >ago. Often, when I started a conversation in French, I would get a >> > >response in English. This happened most frequently in areas >> > >frequented by tourists (�le de France, Lyon, etc.). I guess my accent >> > >was so bad that they decided English would be easier for both of us. >> > >> > Even though my Italian is good, people still respond to me in English >> > sometimes, just because they don't want to seem ignorant. >> >> In my case, I think they respond in English rather than letting me >> continue to butcher their language. > >I find the Italians more tolerant than most to my attempts at the local >language, and I'm a lot worse at Italian now than I was a decade ago. If >the other person is good at English, they'll generally revert to that >when I'm in a restaurant etc.- but I've been pleasantly surprised at the >number of times they've been quite patient in allowing me to persist. :) That is the same as I continually have found in the past. So many tourists come here and just speak english that when someone actually tries their tongue it's like... che meraviglia!!! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: English Language in Paris
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:14:22 -0400, S
Viemeister <[email protected]> has scripted: >Doesn't Frequently Mop wrote: >>> >>>Isn't White Stripes big in Rome? At least their "Seven Nation Army" is >>>the anthem of the AS Roma fans. >> >> >> BTW, I'm astounded someone else in this group has heard of them! > >Even _I_ have heard of them! Noting the average age of this group is about 50! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: English Language in Paris
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:06:29 -0700,
Iceman <[email protected]> has scripted: >On Aug 9, 1:02 am, "d.g.s." <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 8/8/2007 11:10 AM Doesn't Frequently Mop jumped down, turned around, >> >> and wrote: >> > Make credence recognised that on Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:47:31 +0200, >> > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> has scripted: >> >> >> Gregory Morrow writes: >> >> >>> How do you say in French, "How much is that air conditioning >> >>> unit?"...??? >> >> Combien coute ce climatiseur? >> >> > How do you say "That's too much, find me a cheaper one"? >> >> "My hovercraft is full of eels." > > >The only phrase I know in Brazilian Portuguese is "Lonely Planet said >this city was picturesque and historic, but it's just another Third >World shithole!" If you haven't read Molvania, then go get the book right now. You'll piss yourself!! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: IF TOU NEED ANYTHING? ASK MARTIN
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:43:06 +0100,
"Knight Of The Road" <[email protected]> has scripted: >"Runge3" <[email protected]> wrote > >> "Martin" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de > > ><Runge> Martin martin martin martin martin martin martin martin martin ><Runge/> You mean you haven't plonked Runge yet? He's aged two years in my killfile. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: English Language in Paris
Carole Allen wrote:
>>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: >> >>>Is "MacGyver" still shown anywhere? >> > On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:46:37 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> > wrote:>Many TV shows never seem to die. I mentioned "The Love Boat" > to some clients recently because I had seen it the previous day on > (French) TV, only to realize that they had been born after the series > ended in the U.S. > > I had a friend on a soap opera which went off the air in the US in > 1984. In 1998 I came across it on Croatian TV (subtitled)! He still > earns a modest residual whenever it is picked up somewhere in the > world. An actor colleague from my would-be operatic past found the same to be true with a couple of nationally aired commercials he "performed" in (one was for Philadelphia Cream Cheese). Some of the commercials for such nationally advertised staple items continue to be periodically recycled for years on many channels all over the U.S. (And of course, each time one aired anywhere, a minute sum was added to his accumulated residuals - he made quite a tidy income off of those for a number of years.) |
Re: English Language in Paris
d.g.s. wrote:
> On 8/8/2007 11:10 AM Doesn't Frequently Mop jumped down, turned around, > and wrote: > >> Make credence recognised that on Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:47:31 +0200, >> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> has scripted: >> >>> Gregory Morrow writes: >>> >>>> How do you say in French, "How much is that air conditioning >>>> unit?"...??? >>> >>> Combien coute ce climatiseur? >> >> >> How do you say "That's too much, find me a cheaper one"? > > > "My hovercraft is full of eels." LOL! (Shades of Monty Python!) |
Re: English Language in Paris
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> poldy <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>In article <[email protected]>, >> Doesn't Frequently Mop <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >> wrote: >> >> >>>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:17:19 -0700, >>>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> has scripted: >>> >>> >>>>On Aug 7, 6:04 am, The Reid <[email protected]> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Others dont respond to poor french. But one copes! >>>> >>>>I barely remember the French I learned in high school several decades >>>>ago. Often, when I started a conversation in French, I would get a >>>>response in English. This happened most frequently in areas >>>>frequented by tourists (�le de France, Lyon, etc.). I guess my accent >>>>was so bad that they decided English would be easier for both of us. >>> >>>Even though my Italian is good, people still respond to me in English >>>sometimes, just because they don't want to seem ignorant. >> >>In my case, I think they respond in English rather than letting me >>continue to butcher their language. > > > I find the Italians more tolerant than most to my attempts at the local > language, and I'm a lot worse at Italian now than I was a decade ago. If > the other person is good at English, they'll generally revert to that > when I'm in a restaurant etc.- but I've been pleasantly surprised at the > number of times they've been quite patient in allowing me to persist. :) > That's been my experience in France! I KNOW my French is atrocious, But once I begin the attempt, they will let me struggle on until I beg for help. (I think it's a tongue-in-cheek sort of humour, on their part, but hey, how else does one learn to speak another language?) |
Re: English Language in Paris
On Aug 9, 1:38 pm, Doesn't Frequently Mop
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:06:29 -0700, > Iceman <[email protected]> has scripted: > > > > >On Aug 9, 1:02 am, "d.g.s." <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 8/8/2007 11:10 AM Doesn't Frequently Mop jumped down, turned around, > > >> and wrote: > >> > Make credence recognised that on Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:47:31 +0200, > >> > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> has scripted: > > >> >> Gregory Morrow writes: > > >> >>> How do you say in French, "How much is that air conditioning > >> >>> unit?"...??? > >> >> Combien coute ce climatiseur? > > >> > How do you say "That's too much, find me a cheaper one"? > > >> "My hovercraft is full of eels." > > >The only phrase I know in Brazilian Portuguese is "Lonely Planet said > >this city was picturesque and historic, but it's just another Third > >World shithole!" > > If you haven't read Molvania, then go get the book right now. You'll > piss yourself!! I've seen it. It's really funny - for those who don't know, it's a parody travel guide that pokes fun at both Eastern Europe and Lonely Planet. Their second book "Phaic Tan", about Southeast Asia, is also very good. |
Re: English Language in Paris
Doesn't Frequently Mop wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:14:22 -0400, S > Viemeister <[email protected]> has scripted: > > >>Doesn't Frequently Mop wrote: >> >>>>Isn't White Stripes big in Rome? At least their "Seven Nation Army" is >>>>the anthem of the AS Roma fans. >>> >>> >>>BTW, I'm astounded someone else in this group has heard of them! >> >>Even _I_ have heard of them! > > > Noting the average age of this group is about 50! Some of us have children who are music freaks. |
Re: English Language in Paris
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:35:21 -0400, S
Viemeister <[email protected]> has scripted: >Doesn't Frequently Mop wrote: > >> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:14:22 -0400, S >> Viemeister <[email protected]> has scripted: >> >> >>>Doesn't Frequently Mop wrote: >>> >>>>>Isn't White Stripes big in Rome? At least their "Seven Nation Army" is >>>>>the anthem of the AS Roma fans. >>>> >>>> >>>>BTW, I'm astounded someone else in this group has heard of them! >>> >>>Even _I_ have heard of them! >> >> >> Noting the average age of this group is about 50! > >Some of us have children who are music freaks. Somehow I'm still too young! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: English Language in Paris
Isnt France like in Europe, which is part of the UK right?
I thought everyone spoke English in the UK, except for the city of Wales and that small island of Scotland. No wonder Americans get a bad rap about geography when you post nonsense like that. Its the Canadians that speak French!
Originally Posted by Mike Collins
(Post 5158704)
I have traveled to non-English-speaking Europe on a few occasions (Germany,
Spain, the Netherlands) and never found not knowing the local language too difficult, but I have heard France is quite different. Can anyone share their stories of not speaking French in Paris? Was it difficult? Could you still manage to order what you wanted in restaurants? We'll take a trip to Paris regardless, I am just trying to figure out how to prepare. Thanks, Mike |
Re: English Language in Paris
Hatunen writes:
> That's quite irrelevant. No, it's not. It illustrates a key characteristic of intellectual property. Thanks to patents, trademarks, and copyrights, IP allows you to work once, and make money indefinitely from that single instance of working. That isn't possible in other domains, such as engineering, medicine, etc. > If you wrote a book in 1990 and didn't write anymore since, but > te book were still selling strongly today, would you forsake the > royalty money becuae you did the work 17 years ago? No, but I recognize that current IP laws are extreme and rather unfair. The original term of copyright was 14 years, which was reasonable. Today it's the life of the author, plus several decades so that his offspring can live parasitically from work that they had nothing to do with. Imagine installing a dishwasher and being paid by your client every time he used the dishwasher for the rest of your life, with your descendents also being paid for each use for nearly a century after you die. Does that seem reasonable to you? |
Re: English Language in Paris
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hatunen writes: > > > That's quite irrelevant. > > No, it's not. It illustrates a key characteristic of intellectual property. > Thanks to patents, trademarks, and copyrights, IP allows you to work once, and > make money indefinitely from that single instance of working. That isn't > possible in other domains, such as engineering, medicine, etc. > > > If you wrote a book in 1990 and didn't write anymore since, but > > te book were still selling strongly today, would you forsake the > > royalty money becuae you did the work 17 years ago? > > No, but I recognize that current IP laws are extreme and rather unfair. The > original term of copyright was 14 years, which was reasonable. Today it's the > life of the author, plus several decades so that his offspring can live > parasitically from work that they had nothing to do with. It's the US to blame for the "several decades" bit. There's a reason it's sometimes called the Mickey Mouse law... -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient." Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007 |
Re: English Language in Paris
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:
> It's the US to blame for the "several decades" bit. There's a reason > it's sometimes called the Mickey Mouse law... No, copyright was far out of control long before that, with Europe leading the way, as I recall. |
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