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Dec 8th 2005, 6:50 am
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
By Sam Knight
The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
"accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs the
liability of airlines.
According to the 1929 Convention, airlines must pay compensation to
injured passengers or the families of dead passengers "if the accident
which caused the damage... took place on board the aircraft or in the
course of any of the operations of embarking or disembarking".
After two months of consideration, the Law Lords unanimously upheld
the Court of Appeal verdict today that DVT was a "non-event" rather
than an accident, as defined by the convention.
"An event or happening which is no more than the normal operation of
the aircraft in normal conditions cannot constitute an... accident,"
wrote Lord Scott of Foscote in his ruling.
Lord Walker of Gestingthorpe agreed, comparing DVT, which affects
around 8,000 British airline travellers every year and may kill up to
1,000 passengers, to the "curious incident of the dog in the night
time," as described in a Sherlock Holmes story.
"In Conan Doyle's Silver Blaze, Sherlock Holmes draws Dr Watson's
attention, 'to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time'",
Lord Walker wrote. "'The dog did nothing in the night-time. That was
the curious incident.'"
In the case, which threatened far-reaching and expensive implications
for the world's airlines, Anthony Scrivener, QC, argued that airlines
should warn passengers of the possible health risks of flying in
cramped conditions.
"The risk of the flight causing DVT requires a response from the
carrier in the same way that the risk of hijacking does," he said.
"The carrier is in the best position to advise passengers how to
reduce or remove the risk and to warn passengers of the risk to which
they are exposed.
"If the carrier fails to take these steps, the failure constitutes an
accident and it is a breach of their duty or obligation," he added.
DVT refers to the formation of small blood clots in the deep veins of
the legs. The clots can form when movement is severely restricted. If
the blood clots break away from the wall of the vein they can enter
the blood flow and enter the brain and heart, causing strokes, heart
attacks and death.
--
Martin
http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
By Sam Knight
The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
"accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs the
liability of airlines.
According to the 1929 Convention, airlines must pay compensation to
injured passengers or the families of dead passengers "if the accident
which caused the damage... took place on board the aircraft or in the
course of any of the operations of embarking or disembarking".
After two months of consideration, the Law Lords unanimously upheld
the Court of Appeal verdict today that DVT was a "non-event" rather
than an accident, as defined by the convention.
"An event or happening which is no more than the normal operation of
the aircraft in normal conditions cannot constitute an... accident,"
wrote Lord Scott of Foscote in his ruling.
Lord Walker of Gestingthorpe agreed, comparing DVT, which affects
around 8,000 British airline travellers every year and may kill up to
1,000 passengers, to the "curious incident of the dog in the night
time," as described in a Sherlock Holmes story.
"In Conan Doyle's Silver Blaze, Sherlock Holmes draws Dr Watson's
attention, 'to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time'",
Lord Walker wrote. "'The dog did nothing in the night-time. That was
the curious incident.'"
In the case, which threatened far-reaching and expensive implications
for the world's airlines, Anthony Scrivener, QC, argued that airlines
should warn passengers of the possible health risks of flying in
cramped conditions.
"The risk of the flight causing DVT requires a response from the
carrier in the same way that the risk of hijacking does," he said.
"The carrier is in the best position to advise passengers how to
reduce or remove the risk and to warn passengers of the risk to which
they are exposed.
"If the carrier fails to take these steps, the failure constitutes an
accident and it is a breach of their duty or obligation," he added.
DVT refers to the formation of small blood clots in the deep veins of
the legs. The clots can form when movement is severely restricted. If
the blood clots break away from the wall of the vein they can enter
the blood flow and enter the brain and heart, causing strokes, heart
attacks and death.
--
Martin
http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
Dec 8th 2005, 7:00 am
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Re: DVT
Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
Thanks for including the URL!
> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> By Sam Knight
>
> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
>
> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
> the liability of airlines.
The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
just as little movement?
Des
prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
Thanks for including the URL!
> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> By Sam Knight
>
> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
>
> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
> the liability of airlines.
The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
just as little movement?
Des
prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
Dec 8th 2005, 7:24 am
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Re: DVT
On 08 Dec 2005 20:00:27 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
>Thanks for including the URL!
>> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
>> By Sam Knight
>>
>> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
>> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
>> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
>>
>> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
>> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
>> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
>> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
>> the liability of airlines.
>The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
>the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
>would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
>just as little movement?
>Des
>prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
It's caused by rotten circulation e.g. not moving your legs
sufficiently. They give anti clotting injections in Dutch hospitals to
prevent DVT, even if you are only in for a few days.
--
Martin
http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> writes:
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
>Thanks for including the URL!
>> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
>> By Sam Knight
>>
>> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
>> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
>> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
>>
>> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
>> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
>> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
>> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
>> the liability of airlines.
>The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
>the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
>would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
>just as little movement?
>Des
>prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
It's caused by rotten circulation e.g. not moving your legs
sufficiently. They give anti clotting injections in Dutch hospitals to
prevent DVT, even if you are only in for a few days.
--
Martin
http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
Dec 8th 2005, 7:51 am
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Re: DVT
keep your law lords to yourself
Time for beddytime old man
"Martin" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> By Sam Knight
> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs the
> liability of airlines.
> According to the 1929 Convention, airlines must pay compensation to
> injured passengers or the families of dead passengers "if the accident
> which caused the damage... took place on board the aircraft or in the
> course of any of the operations of embarking or disembarking".
> After two months of consideration, the Law Lords unanimously upheld
> the Court of Appeal verdict today that DVT was a "non-event" rather
> than an accident, as defined by the convention.
> "An event or happening which is no more than the normal operation of
> the aircraft in normal conditions cannot constitute an... accident,"
> wrote Lord Scott of Foscote in his ruling.
> Lord Walker of Gestingthorpe agreed, comparing DVT, which affects
> around 8,000 British airline travellers every year and may kill up to
> 1,000 passengers, to the "curious incident of the dog in the night
> time," as described in a Sherlock Holmes story.
> "In Conan Doyle's Silver Blaze, Sherlock Holmes draws Dr Watson's
> attention, 'to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time'",
> Lord Walker wrote. "'The dog did nothing in the night-time. That was
> the curious incident.'"
> In the case, which threatened far-reaching and expensive implications
> for the world's airlines, Anthony Scrivener, QC, argued that airlines
> should warn passengers of the possible health risks of flying in
> cramped conditions.
> "The risk of the flight causing DVT requires a response from the
> carrier in the same way that the risk of hijacking does," he said.
> "The carrier is in the best position to advise passengers how to
> reduce or remove the risk and to warn passengers of the risk to which
> they are exposed.
> "If the carrier fails to take these steps, the failure constitutes an
> accident and it is a breach of their duty or obligation," he added.
> DVT refers to the formation of small blood clots in the deep veins of
> the legs. The clots can form when movement is severely restricted. If
> the blood clots break away from the wall of the vein they can enter
> the blood flow and enter the brain and heart, causing strokes, heart
> attacks and death.
> --
> Martin
> http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
Time for beddytime old man
"Martin" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> By Sam Knight
> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs the
> liability of airlines.
> According to the 1929 Convention, airlines must pay compensation to
> injured passengers or the families of dead passengers "if the accident
> which caused the damage... took place on board the aircraft or in the
> course of any of the operations of embarking or disembarking".
> After two months of consideration, the Law Lords unanimously upheld
> the Court of Appeal verdict today that DVT was a "non-event" rather
> than an accident, as defined by the convention.
> "An event or happening which is no more than the normal operation of
> the aircraft in normal conditions cannot constitute an... accident,"
> wrote Lord Scott of Foscote in his ruling.
> Lord Walker of Gestingthorpe agreed, comparing DVT, which affects
> around 8,000 British airline travellers every year and may kill up to
> 1,000 passengers, to the "curious incident of the dog in the night
> time," as described in a Sherlock Holmes story.
> "In Conan Doyle's Silver Blaze, Sherlock Holmes draws Dr Watson's
> attention, 'to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time'",
> Lord Walker wrote. "'The dog did nothing in the night-time. That was
> the curious incident.'"
> In the case, which threatened far-reaching and expensive implications
> for the world's airlines, Anthony Scrivener, QC, argued that airlines
> should warn passengers of the possible health risks of flying in
> cramped conditions.
> "The risk of the flight causing DVT requires a response from the
> carrier in the same way that the risk of hijacking does," he said.
> "The carrier is in the best position to advise passengers how to
> reduce or remove the risk and to warn passengers of the risk to which
> they are exposed.
> "If the carrier fails to take these steps, the failure constitutes an
> accident and it is a breach of their duty or obligation," he added.
> DVT refers to the formation of small blood clots in the deep veins of
> the legs. The clots can form when movement is severely restricted. If
> the blood clots break away from the wall of the vein they can enter
> the blood flow and enter the brain and heart, causing strokes, heart
> attacks and death.
> --
> Martin
> http://tinyurl.com/8x2pz
Dec 8th 2005, 10:47 am
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Re: DVT
In article <[email protected]>, Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 08 Dec 2005 20:00:27 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
> >
> >Thanks for including the URL!
> >
> >> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> >> By Sam Knight
> >>
> >> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> >> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> >> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
> >>
> >> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> >> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> >> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> >> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
> >> the liability of airlines.
> >
> >The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
> >the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
> >would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
> >just as little movement?
> >
> >Des
> >prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
>
> It's caused by rotten circulation e.g. not moving your legs
> sufficiently. They give anti clotting injections in Dutch hospitals to
> prevent DVT, even if you are only in for a few days.
Not a good idea for those that might need surgery.
jay
Thu Dec 08, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 08 Dec 2005 20:00:27 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...915830,00.html
> >
> >Thanks for including the URL!
> >
> >> Law Lords throw out 'economy class syndrome' case
> >> By Sam Knight
> >>
> >> The families of eight British Airways passengers who suffered deep
> >> vein thrombosis - so-called 'economy class syndrome' - will receive no
> >> compensation from the airline, the House of Lords ruled today.
> >>
> >> The Law Lords dismissed an appeal by the families of the
> >> holidaymakers, two of whom died after long-haul flights, saying that
> >> deep vein thrombosis, known as DVT, could not be characterised as an
> >> "accident" under the terms of the Warsaw Convention which governs
> >> the liability of airlines.
> >
> >The Law Lords decision is as final as it gets, but is DVT linked with
> >the cabin pressure or just the immobility? Which is to ask or enquire
> >would it be just as bad if trains crammed you in for just as long with
> >just as little movement?
> >
> >Des
> >prefers his hauls on the shorter side of long
>
> It's caused by rotten circulation e.g. not moving your legs
> sufficiently. They give anti clotting injections in Dutch hospitals to
> prevent DVT, even if you are only in for a few days.
Not a good idea for those that might need surgery.
jay
Thu Dec 08, 2005
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