Dutch drug caf? ban
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it would actually make the real crime situation FAR worse.
at least the coffee shops are regulated and taxed.
Miss L. Toe wrote:
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>>After years of tolerance, foreigners are to be excluded from Amsterdam's
>>cannabis shops.
>>The Netherlands' conservative Government has just unveiled a scheme to
>>restrict access to the country's drug-selling coffee shops to Dutch
>>residents only. Coffee shops would be restricted to members, with
>
> membership
>
>>permits sold only to local people.
>
>
> And how do they intend to stop the local people (or hardened drug pushers)
> selling it straight on to the foreigners ?
>
>
>>"We are willing to do something about tourists and foreigners buying
>
> hashish
>
>>in coffee shops. One option is having permits for customers, and then you
>>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
>>said.
>
>
> Is this actually legal under EU law - free trade and all that ?
>
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at least the coffee shops are regulated and taxed.
Miss L. Toe wrote:
> "Owain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>After years of tolerance, foreigners are to be excluded from Amsterdam's
>>cannabis shops.
>>The Netherlands' conservative Government has just unveiled a scheme to
>>restrict access to the country's drug-selling coffee shops to Dutch
>>residents only. Coffee shops would be restricted to members, with
>
> membership
>
>>permits sold only to local people.
>
>
> And how do they intend to stop the local people (or hardened drug pushers)
> selling it straight on to the foreigners ?
>
>
>>"We are willing to do something about tourists and foreigners buying
>
> hashish
>
>>in coffee shops. One option is having permits for customers, and then you
>>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
>>said.
>
>
> Is this actually legal under EU law - free trade and all that ?
>
>
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> The proposals have also triggered vehement protests from the Dutch coffee
> shops, which are fully licensed by local authorities and pay millions of
> pounds in tax. "It's totally ridiculous. The minister is stupid. If this
> system comes in, all the tourists will buy from criminals in the street,"
> Arjan Roskam, of the Union of Cannabis Retailers, said.
this is also Arjan of the Green House group of coffee shops.
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> shops, which are fully licensed by local authorities and pay millions of
> pounds in tax. "It's totally ridiculous. The minister is stupid. If this
> system comes in, all the tourists will buy from criminals in the street,"
> Arjan Roskam, of the Union of Cannabis Retailers, said.
this is also Arjan of the Green House group of coffee shops.
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>>One option is having permits for customers, and then you
>>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
>>said.
>
> Won't work of course. There are already thousands of Dutch people lining up
> who would be more than happy to act as a middleman for a nice fee. :-)
>
> Sjoerd
Hi,
it'll either bring back street dealing... which is a bad idea.
or we'll return to the days of the "house dealer" in bars and cafes...
when I first started visiting amsterdam I visited a few places like that...
the bar that used to be where the Green House (the one in the RLD) is
now used to have a house dealer who sat at the back end of the bar with
a briefcase with his merchandise inside, and a little digital scale
(plugged in behind the bar), and his "menu" on the inside/top of the
briefcase...
this apparently because this was a "bar" with a liquor license.
recently I visited an unlicensed coffeeshop out by the alpert cuypstraat
market where the dealer had a very limited selection (a couple of hash
and a couple of weed) but all pre-weighed in packs in his pockets... not
a place on my favorites list to be sure... but a convenient place for a
coke and a smoke.
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>>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
>>said.
>
> Won't work of course. There are already thousands of Dutch people lining up
> who would be more than happy to act as a middleman for a nice fee. :-)
>
> Sjoerd
Hi,
it'll either bring back street dealing... which is a bad idea.
or we'll return to the days of the "house dealer" in bars and cafes...
when I first started visiting amsterdam I visited a few places like that...
the bar that used to be where the Green House (the one in the RLD) is
now used to have a house dealer who sat at the back end of the bar with
a briefcase with his merchandise inside, and a little digital scale
(plugged in behind the bar), and his "menu" on the inside/top of the
briefcase...
this apparently because this was a "bar" with a liquor license.
recently I visited an unlicensed coffeeshop out by the alpert cuypstraat
market where the dealer had a very limited selection (a couple of hash
and a couple of weed) but all pre-weighed in packs in his pockets... not
a place on my favorites list to be sure... but a convenient place for a
coke and a smoke.
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