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Old Oct 31st 2003, 1:19 pm
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it would actually make the real crime situation FAR worse.

at least the coffee shops are regulated and taxed.

Miss L. Toe wrote:

    > "Owain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>After years of tolerance, foreigners are to be excluded from Amsterdam's
    >>cannabis shops.
    >>The Netherlands' conservative Government has just unveiled a scheme to
    >>restrict access to the country's drug-selling coffee shops to Dutch
    >>residents only. Coffee shops would be restricted to members, with
    >
    > membership
    >
    >>permits sold only to local people.
    >
    >
    > And how do they intend to stop the local people (or hardened drug pushers)
    > selling it straight on to the foreigners ?
    >
    >
    >>"We are willing to do something about tourists and foreigners buying
    >
    > hashish
    >
    >>in coffee shops. One option is having permits for customers, and then you
    >>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
    >>said.
    >
    >
    > Is this actually legal under EU law - free trade and all that ?
    >
    >

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Old Oct 31st 2003, 1:23 pm
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    > The proposals have also triggered vehement protests from the Dutch coffee
    > shops, which are fully licensed by local authorities and pay millions of
    > pounds in tax. "It's totally ridiculous. The minister is stupid. If this
    > system comes in, all the tourists will buy from criminals in the street,"
    > Arjan Roskam, of the Union of Cannabis Retailers, said.

this is also Arjan of the Green House group of coffee shops.


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Old Nov 13th 2003, 3:31 am
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    >>One option is having permits for customers, and then you
    >>don't give permits to foreigners," a spokesman for the Justice Ministry
    >>said.
    >
    > Won't work of course. There are already thousands of Dutch people lining up
    > who would be more than happy to act as a middleman for a nice fee. :-)
    >
    > Sjoerd

Hi,

it'll either bring back street dealing... which is a bad idea.

or we'll return to the days of the "house dealer" in bars and cafes...
when I first started visiting amsterdam I visited a few places like that...

the bar that used to be where the Green House (the one in the RLD) is
now used to have a house dealer who sat at the back end of the bar with
a briefcase with his merchandise inside, and a little digital scale
(plugged in behind the bar), and his "menu" on the inside/top of the
briefcase...

this apparently because this was a "bar" with a liquor license.

recently I visited an unlicensed coffeeshop out by the alpert cuypstraat
market where the dealer had a very limited selection (a couple of hash
and a couple of weed) but all pre-weighed in packs in his pockets... not
a place on my favorites list to be sure... but a convenient place for a
coke and a smoke.


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