DTel: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Aug 6th 2004, 8:28 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 21:00:52 +0200, Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote in
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>> and the Koln/Cologne and Munich ring roads that were the prototype for
>> the M25,
>They were? I should think the "Berliner Ring" autobahn is the prototype for
>all of the above.
Wagner's Das Ring predates all of them.
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote in
>news:[email protected] :
>> and the Koln/Cologne and Munich ring roads that were the prototype for
>> the M25,
>They were? I should think the "Berliner Ring" autobahn is the prototype for
>all of the above.
Wagner's Das Ring predates all of them.
Aug 6th 2004, 10:27 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>> > Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
>> >>>Germans who move there :-)
>> >>
>> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
>> >
>> > Absolutely not !!!!
>> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
>> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
>> really need it that much.
>Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
In exchange for Namibia?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>> > Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
>> >>>Germans who move there :-)
>> >>
>> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
>> >
>> > Absolutely not !!!!
>> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
>> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
>> really need it that much.
>Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
In exchange for Namibia?
Aug 6th 2004, 11:11 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> >>
> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> >
> > Absolutely not !!!!
> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
> really need it that much.
Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> >>
> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> >
> > Absolutely not !!!!
> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
> really need it that much.
Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
Surreyman
Aug 6th 2004, 11:33 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> >> news:[email protected]:
> >>
> >> > Following up to [email protected]
> >> >
> >> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> >> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> >> >>
> >> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> >> >
> >> > Absolutely not !!!!
> >>
> >> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit
in
> >> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We
don't
> >> really need it that much.
> >>
> >
> >Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> In exchange for Namibia?
Zanzibar, actually.
Then we borrowed it back again, finally getting bored with it in 1952.
I have a good collection of Queen Victoria stamps from when Heligoland was
British.
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> >> news:[email protected]:
> >>
> >> > Following up to [email protected]
> >> >
> >> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> >> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> >> >>
> >> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> >> >
> >> > Absolutely not !!!!
> >>
> >> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit
in
> >> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We
don't
> >> really need it that much.
> >>
> >
> >Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> In exchange for Namibia?
Zanzibar, actually.
Then we borrowed it back again, finally getting bored with it in 1952.
I have a good collection of Queen Victoria stamps from when Heligoland was
British.
Surreyman
Aug 7th 2004, 10:51 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
"a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, "a.spencer3"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> > >> news:[email protected]:
> > >>
> > >> > Following up to [email protected]
> > >> >
> > >> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> > >> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> > >> >
> > >> > Absolutely not !!!!
> > >>
> > >> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German
bit
> in
> > >> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We
> don't
> > >> really need it that much.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> >
> > In exchange for Namibia?
> Zanzibar, actually.
> Then we borrowed it back again, finally getting bored with it in 1952.
> I have a good collection of Queen Victoria stamps from when Heligoland was
> British.
And hey all you USians - what about Point Roberts!!!
Yep - I've just had the latest National Geographic!
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, "a.spencer3"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> > >> news:[email protected]:
> > >>
> > >> > Following up to [email protected]
> > >> >
> > >> >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> > >> >>>Germans who move there :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> > >> >
> > >> > Absolutely not !!!!
> > >>
> > >> Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German
bit
> in
> > >> the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We
> don't
> > >> really need it that much.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> >
> > In exchange for Namibia?
> Zanzibar, actually.
> Then we borrowed it back again, finally getting bored with it in 1952.
> I have a good collection of Queen Victoria stamps from when Heligoland was
> British.
And hey all you USians - what about Point Roberts!!!
Yep - I've just had the latest National Geographic!
Surreyman
Aug 8th 2004, 4:37 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... > The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
... > news:[email protected]:
... >
... > > Following up to [email protected]
... > >
... > >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
... > >>>Germans who move there :-)
... > >>
... > >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
... > >
... > > Absolutely not !!!!
... >
... > Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
... > the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
... > really need it that much.
... >
...
... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
Where is this ??
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... > The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
... > news:[email protected]:
... >
... > > Following up to [email protected]
... > >
... > >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
... > >>>Germans who move there :-)
... > >>
... > >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
... > >
... > > Absolutely not !!!!
... >
... > Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
... > the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
... > really need it that much.
... >
...
... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
Where is this ??
Aug 8th 2004, 6:17 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:42:12 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
... >
... > Where is this ??
... >
... Pardon?
... Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
... Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
...
... Surreyman
If you gave them Heligoland "back", wasn't it theirs in the first place ?
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
... >
... > Where is this ??
... >
... Pardon?
... Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
... Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
...
... Surreyman
If you gave them Heligoland "back", wasn't it theirs in the first place ?
Aug 8th 2004, 6:42 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> ...
> ... "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... > The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> ... > news:[email protected]:
> ... >
> ... > > Following up to [email protected]
> ... > >
> ... > >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> ... > >>>Germans who move there :-)
> ... > >>
> ... > >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> ... > >
> ... > > Absolutely not !!!!
> ... >
> ... > Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German
bit in
> ... > the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland?
We don't
> ... > really need it that much.
> ... >
> ...
> ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> Where is this ??
Pardon?
Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 11:11:57 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> ...
> ... "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... > The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in
> ... > news:[email protected]:
> ... >
> ... > > Following up to [email protected]
> ... > >
> ... > >>>Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> ... > >>>Germans who move there :-)
> ... > >>
> ... > >>Swap England for Germany and get decent beer?
> ... > >
> ... > > Absolutely not !!!!
> ... >
> ... > Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German
bit in
> ... > the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland?
We don't
> ... > really need it that much.
> ... >
> ...
> ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> Where is this ??
Pardon?
Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
Surreyman
Aug 8th 2004, 7:26 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On 2004-08-06, The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> Germans who move there :-)
Why should that bother the Germans?
> Lets swop Gibraltar for Mallorca and really piss off all the
> Germans who move there :-)
Why should that bother the Germans?
Aug 8th 2004, 8:30 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Magda <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:42:12 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>this :
>
>
> ... > ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> ... >
> ... > Where is this ??
> ... >
> ... Pardon?
> ... Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
> ... Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
> ...
> ... Surreyman
>
> If you gave them Heligoland "back", wasn't it theirs in the first
> place ?
It used to belong to Denmark for many centuries, until it was conquered by
the British in the Napoleonic wars. The native population is Frisian.
Frisians are native to the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark, so either of
these countries could claim it based on that fact. But culturally it has
been leaning towards Germany since the 19th century even while under
British occupation. The German national anthem was written there during
that period.
Regards
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news:[email protected]:
> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:42:12 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>this :
>
>
> ... > ... Hey, we already gave you back Heligoland!
> ... >
> ... > Where is this ??
> ... >
> ... Pardon?
> ... Oh well, look off the mouth of the Elbe.
> ... Shame we gave it to the Germans prior to WWI!
> ...
> ... Surreyman
>
> If you gave them Heligoland "back", wasn't it theirs in the first
> place ?
It used to belong to Denmark for many centuries, until it was conquered by
the British in the Napoleonic wars. The native population is Frisian.
Frisians are native to the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark, so either of
these countries could claim it based on that fact. But culturally it has
been leaning towards Germany since the 19th century even while under
British occupation. The German national anthem was written there during
that period.
Regards
--
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Aug 8th 2004, 10:02 am
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:30:37 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Wolfgang Schwanke
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... It used to belong to Denmark for many centuries, until it was conquered by
... the British in the Napoleonic wars. The native population is Frisian.
... Frisians are native to the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark, so either of
... these countries could claim it based on that fact. But culturally it has
... been leaning towards Germany since the 19th century even while under
... British occupation. The German national anthem was written there during
... that period.
Thank you, Wolfgang.
(I *love* Europe ! :-))
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... It used to belong to Denmark for many centuries, until it was conquered by
... the British in the Napoleonic wars. The native population is Frisian.
... Frisians are native to the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark, so either of
... these countries could claim it based on that fact. But culturally it has
... been leaning towards Germany since the 19th century even while under
... British occupation. The German national anthem was written there during
... that period.
Thank you, Wolfgang.
(I *love* Europe ! :-))
Aug 8th 2004, 8:30 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Following up to [email protected]
>>Sorry, should have been a 2 in it as above.
>I wouldn't describe much of it as particularly British.
You don't expect us to live on fish and chips and shepherds pie
do you? Modern British cooking is full of influences from
everywhere. But its not microwaved from Sainsburys, although
there is not shortage of people who do that.
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>>Sorry, should have been a 2 in it as above.
>I wouldn't describe much of it as particularly British.
You don't expect us to live on fish and chips and shepherds pie
do you? Modern British cooking is full of influences from
everywhere. But its not microwaved from Sainsburys, although
there is not shortage of people who do that.
--
Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
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Aug 8th 2004, 8:30 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Following up to [email protected]
>>They were? I should think the "Berliner Ring" autobahn is the prototype for
>>all of the above.
>Wagner's Das Ring predates all of them.
But I cant drive my BMW on that, its cycle only.
--
Mike Reid
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>>They were? I should think the "Berliner Ring" autobahn is the prototype for
>>all of the above.
>Wagner's Das Ring predates all of them.
But I cant drive my BMW on that, its cycle only.
--
Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
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Aug 8th 2004, 8:30 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Following up to [email protected]
>>How about Schupfnudeln?
>and Salburgerknockerl?
The former I don't know or don't remember, the latter i've eaten
when my calorie requirements were higher, although I rarely
bother with a dessert nowadays.
--
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>>How about Schupfnudeln?
>and Salburgerknockerl?
The former I don't know or don't remember, the latter i've eaten
when my calorie requirements were higher, although I rarely
bother with a dessert nowadays.
--
Mike Reid
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Aug 8th 2004, 8:30 pm
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Re: Gibraltar defiantly celebrates 300 years of British ownership
Following up to Wolfgang Schwanke
>Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
>the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
>really need it that much.
I've only been to Gibraltar once, I'm pretty sure it was an
island in the same was the Rhineland is and I cant say I liked it
much anyway. Couldn't wait to get into Spain.
--
Mike Reid
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>Let's come back to those island swaps. We could do with some German bit in
>the Mediterranean. Can we have Gibraltar for, say, the Rhineland? We don't
>really need it that much.
I've only been to Gibraltar once, I'm pretty sure it was an
island in the same was the Rhineland is and I cant say I liked it
much anyway. Couldn't wait to get into Spain.
--
Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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