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Driving In/To Croatia (from Trieste)

Driving In/To Croatia (from Trieste)

Old Jan 18th 2007, 11:07 pm
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tim..... wrote:
>> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
> speak German", but they still persisted with German
> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
> likely to be something that they struggled with)
>
> tim

Maybe your rusty Italian sounded more like German? ;-)

All kidding aside, perhaps you met someone who doesn't speak Italian.

Croatian still is the first language in Istria, then it's the Istrian
dialect, which is a combination of Croatian and Italian words
originating from the Veneto region (send an Istrian with this dialect a
bit further than Padova and he'll be lost ), and then there are those
who speak proper Italian.
 
Old Jan 19th 2007, 7:07 am
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1hs5qmr.2kkxlcsl114uN%[email protected]...
> tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Hello All,
>> >
>> > The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there
>> > are
>> > really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
>> > English,
>>
>> Hm,
>>
>> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
>> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
>> speak German", but they still persisted with German
>> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
>> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
>> likely to be something that they struggled with)
>
> That wasn't my experience there. Certainly in Pula and Rovinj, it was
> rare to encounter people in restaurants who don't speak a little
> English. Sometimes I would begin by speaking in Italian, and either they
> would continue in Italian or just revert to English. (My Italian is also
> rusty- actually it was never well-oiled to begin with.)

I've no idea if they spoke English. They insisted on carrying
on in German.

> In Mali Losinj, the lady we rented a room from spoke only German in
> addition to Croatian, so that's what I used with her.

I was near to the Slovenian border. It's is unlikely that
they didn't speak Italian. It would be the first language
of many of their customers. Many more 'locals' use
resturants than hotels.

tim
 
Old Jan 19th 2007, 10:38 pm
  #33  
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tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1hs5qmr.2kkxlcsl114uN%[email protected]...
> > tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Hello All,
> >> >
> >> > The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there
> >> > are
> >> > really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
> >> > English,
> >>
> >> Hm,
> >>
> >> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
> >> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
> >> speak German", but they still persisted with German
> >> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
> >> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
> >> likely to be something that they struggled with)
> >
> > That wasn't my experience there. Certainly in Pula and Rovinj, it was
> > rare to encounter people in restaurants who don't speak a little
> > English. Sometimes I would begin by speaking in Italian, and either they
> > would continue in Italian or just revert to English. (My Italian is also
> > rusty- actually it was never well-oiled to begin with.)
>
> I've no idea if they spoke English. They insisted on carrying
> on in German.
>
> > In Mali Losinj, the lady we rented a room from spoke only German in
> > addition to Croatian, so that's what I used with her.
>
> I was near to the Slovenian border. It's is unlikely that
> they didn't speak Italian. It would be the first language
> of many of their customers. Many more 'locals' use
> resturants than hotels.

Like I said though, no one ever reverted to German with me- including in
restaurants. They'd usually continue in Italian, or just English.

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Old Jan 20th 2007, 4:22 am
  #34  
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Let is be knownst that on Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:38:19 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:

>tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I was near to the Slovenian border. It's is unlikely that
>> they didn't speak Italian. It would be the first language
>> of many of their customers. Many more 'locals' use
>> resturants than hotels.
>
>Like I said though, no one ever reverted to German with me- including in
>restaurants. They'd usually continue in Italian, or just English.

I wonder if you get a better reception if you speak English or Italian
or Russian or German?

(presuming you can't get far in the local tongue)

Or would you be best off just learning 'please', and pointing to the
menu? It's a strategy that has worked for me in the past.
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Old Jan 20th 2007, 5:10 am
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Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Let is be knownst that on Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:38:19 +0000,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
> >tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> I was near to the Slovenian border. It's is unlikely that
> >> they didn't speak Italian. It would be the first language
> >> of many of their customers. Many more 'locals' use
> >> resturants than hotels.
> >
> >Like I said though, no one ever reverted to German with me- including in
> >restaurants. They'd usually continue in Italian, or just English.
>
> I wonder if you get a better reception if you speak English or Italian
> or Russian or German?
>
> (presuming you can't get far in the local tongue)
>
> Or would you be best off just learning 'please', and pointing to the
> menu? It's a strategy that has worked for me in the past.

The Istrian coast is quite touristy, so they take foreigners pretty much
in their stride. I didn't notice any difference in attitude if I spoke
English, Italian or German, and wouldn't expect it. It was more just a
matter of what was easier at the time. It was interesting that two
people we rented rooms from spoke no English, but Italian and German
respectively.

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Old Jan 21st 2007, 6:39 pm
  #36  
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I've done this a couple of times and recommend it highly. Make sure to see
Plitvice - one of the most memorable experiences in my life.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> TonyF wrote:
>> Thanks for the response Arthur,
>>
>> We were cautioned by our local travel agent and by postings on
>> soc.culture.Croatia. and by hacks of Croatian tourism websites by
>> religious
>> extremists.
>>
>> Although reading the Croatian government tourism web site makes
>> everything look safe, simple and attractive.
>>
>> Do you actually have first hand experience and knowledge of driving there
>> ?
>>
>> TonyF
>>
>> "arthur" <azer@ty> wrote in message news:mn.8d297d7118d7d5fd.62070@ty...
>> > > Hello All,
>> > >
>> > > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
>> > > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
>> motoring
>> > > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>> > >
>> > > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
>> Dubrovnik
>> > > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>> >
>> > Are you kidding ?
>> >
>> > > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
>> keeping
>> > > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
>> rules).
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in Advance
>> >
>> > My advise : don't ever show this message to a Croatian and everything
> rodes in CROATIA ARE SAFE AS ANY OTHER IN EUROPE. i have been driving
> for 8 years and didn t have an accident. if you have basic driving
> culture ( letting someone out of a parking space, try to drive fast
> enough, giving flash signs when you have noticed a police
> checkpoint...) you wont have any problems. croatians are only nervous
> in cars when somebody is drivin too slow but when they see a foreign
> licence plates in a local street they understand (at least most
> croatian drivers) you really shouldnt have any problems driving in
> Croatia. sincerely Igor (a Croat)
>> > will be fine.
>> >
>> > Arthur
>> >
>> >
>
 
Old Jan 22nd 2007, 5:48 pm
  #37  
Carole Allen
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I've driven there, I've ridden trains and busses there...it is
perfectly safe...a beautiful country with friendly, gracious people...

and I second Plitvice...


On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:39:29 -0800, "Patrick Page"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I've done this a couple of times and recommend it highly. Make sure to see
>Plitvice - one of the most memorable experiences in my life.
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] roups.com...
>> TonyF wrote:
>>> Thanks for the response Arthur,
>>>
>>> We were cautioned by our local travel agent and by postings on
>>> soc.culture.Croatia. and by hacks of Croatian tourism websites by
>>> religious
>>> extremists.
>>>
>>> Although reading the Croatian government tourism web site makes
>>> everything look safe, simple and attractive.
>>>
>>> Do you actually have first hand experience and knowledge of driving there
>>> ?
>>>
>>> TonyF
>>>
>>> "arthur" <azer@ty> wrote in message news:mn.8d297d7118d7d5fd.62070@ty...
>>> > > Hello All,
>>> > >
>>> > > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
>>> > > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
>>> motoring
>>> > > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>>> > >
>>> > > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
>>> Dubrovnik
>>> > > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>>> >
>>> > Are you kidding ?
>>> >
>>> > > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
>>> keeping
>>> > > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
>>> rules).
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks in Advance
>>> >
>>> > My advise : don't ever show this message to a Croatian and everything
>> rodes in CROATIA ARE SAFE AS ANY OTHER IN EUROPE. i have been driving
>> for 8 years and didn t have an accident. if you have basic driving
>> culture ( letting someone out of a parking space, try to drive fast
>> enough, giving flash signs when you have noticed a police
>> checkpoint...) you wont have any problems. croatians are only nervous
>> in cars when somebody is drivin too slow but when they see a foreign
>> licence plates in a local street they understand (at least most
>> croatian drivers) you really shouldnt have any problems driving in
>> Croatia. sincerely Igor (a Croat)
>>> > will be fine.
>>> >
>>> > Arthur
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>
>
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 6:39 am
  #38  
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor * wrote:
It was interesting that two
> people we rented rooms from spoke no English, but Italian and German
> respectively.

That's because English speaking tourists are mainly coming from UK or
US and they tend to rather go to hotels as part of their package deals
(flight & accommodation) than to rent rooms themselves.
Mostly people who go to private acommodation are Italians, Germans,
Hungarians and, recently, Russians.

But I suspect that will change now, given the low cost Ryanair flights
from Dublin and London to Pula - if Irish and English decide to go to
Istria on a holiday, it will be very convenient for them to find
private acommodation to go with the low cost flight.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 9:14 am
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T. <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor * wrote:
> It was interesting that two
> > people we rented rooms from spoke no English, but Italian and German
> > respectively.
>
> That's because English speaking tourists are mainly coming from UK or
> US and they tend to rather go to hotels as part of their package deals
> (flight & accommodation) than to rent rooms themselves.

Yes, I figured this out- where we were, there were very few English
native speaking tourists.

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