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Driving In/To Croatia (from Trieste)

Old Jan 17th 2007, 7:39 pm
  #16  
David Johnstone
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Hi Tony,
I drove Trieste-Dubrovnik (actually a bit further - started in
Cervignano 50km west of Trieste) in Sept. 2005.
Don't be afraid, it's not really a problem. I drove it in one
(admittedly long) day with a two-hour break in Split, using
the new motorway.
The coast road is winding, but the surface is in good shape
and if you're not in a hurry it's no problem. Stop a night or
two on the way and it'll be very relaxed.
Generally about driving in Croatia on minor back roads:-
don't go strolling off the road as some areas are still mined.
That's more of an issue if you plan on wandering in the
mountains though, no problems on any major roads.
There is a map here of the affected areas:
http://www.hcr.hr/karta.html
David


TonyF wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
> trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>
> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
> Thanks in Advance
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 9:41 pm
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-Martin
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:27:16 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to "TonyF" <[email protected]> :
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
>>regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
>>trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>>
>> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
>>in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>>
>> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
>>out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>
>Just drive politely and predictably - as you would everywhere else - you'll
>have no trouble.

Do that in NL and you are dead.
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Old Jan 18th 2007, 12:24 am
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Goran UnreaL Krajnovic
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[email protected] wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (TonyF) wrote:
>
>> Is there a prepaid mobile SIM card you can buy that gives good mobile
>> coverage in Croatia.
>
> T-Mobile has a Croatian operation, so probably (note the hedging!) any
> T-Mobile SIM will work. You'll need a compatible handset, of course -
> where are you from?

Yes, but you'll still be paying for roaming charges, since you're not in
your home network. The price will probably be cheaper than on the
competitors' networks, but your best option is buying a T-Mobile or some
other prepaid card with some credit on it.

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Old Jan 18th 2007, 12:27 am
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>Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
>in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.

Yes, of course. I can't believe you're asking this question seriously.
Back on the topic: yes, you can do it; I do it all the time (have the
car with Italian licence plates) and I NEVER had any problems.
On the other side, I had a problem in Rome with bandits, so go figure.

> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).

I think you said you're going to Croatia in spring. The traffic is
relatively low that time of the year (except on the Easter weekend and
maybe around May 1st - people tend to take short holidays, go to the
coast, etc., that time of year). The period of the year to avoid, if
you feel unsafe, is definitively the week of "Ferragosto", i.e. August
15th, when hundreds of Italian tourist go to Croatia, so the traffic is
huge.

Other then that, if you hire a car in Trieste (are you taking a low
cost flight to Trieste? You can take Ryanair flight to Pula and I think
they will introduce Zadar this year, too), you just have to follow the
road signs to Slovenia, then you arive on Slovenian motorway (it starts
right after the border, although the Italians are trying to finish
their part of the motorway from Trieste to the border on time) and
follow the signs to Dragonja. This is where you enter to Croatia.
>From the border, follow the motorway sign (actually it's more a "fast
road" then motorway, but it's OK) and you'll be able to go all the way
to Rijeka on it. The locals call it "Ypsilon" (when you look at the
map, you'll understand why). From Rijeka, you have two options: to
follow the coastal road (beautiful scenery, but extremely narrow), or
to go inland to connect with Dalmatina motorway (the new one, going all
the way to Split; the remaining part of the motorway connecting Split
with Dubrovnik is under construction).

There are plenty of stops with rest rooms, gas stations and restaurants
on the way. Some have scenic views (the one near Sibenik Bridge, for
example - you can take wonderful pictures of Krka river flowing inland
to Krka National Park (one thing to put on your to do list!); there's a
marina near the bridge, and then the view opens to the town of Sibenik
and its islands (including Kornati - another must).

The road after Split to Dubrovnik is a scenic one, high above the sea
level, and it offers spectacular views. As you approach the area just
before Dubrovnik (the low part of Peljesac penisula), you'll be able to
take the car off the road and go swimming - the beaches are wonderful
there - without any trouble.

Keep in mind that a little stretch of the coast at Neum is territory of
Bosnia-Hercegovina, so you'll need to cross the border again.

If you are indeed arriving in spring, you'll have no problems finding
accomodation (a room, an apartment, or a hotel room).
If you're stopping just to have a bite and sightsee and then you're
continuing on your way, make sure you NEVER eat in the restaurants by
the road, rather do a bit of exploration, ask locals where you can eat
well and go there, the service will be better, as the quality-price
relation.

Any other questions, feel free to ask!
Cheers,
T.
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 12:41 am
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TonyF wrote:
> Is there a prepaid mobile SIM card you can buy that gives good mobile
> coverage in Croatia.

There's T-Mobile, Vip, Tele 2 and Tomato; T-Mobile offers the best
coverage.
The SIM card costs 150 Kuna (cca 22 Euro). I'm not sure about the price
of the costs if you call back home, but SMS costs about 0,40 Kuna.
Bear in mind that when sending SMSs to some countries the receiver will
be able to get the SMS, but not to reply (it happens to me when I send
SMS from Croatian T-Mobile to US).
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 6:08 am
  #21  
Tim.....
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"TonyF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for your inputs Tim
>
> Not Kidding, We were cautioned against car travel by our local travel
> agent
> and by postings on soc.culture.croatia. and by hacks of several Croatian
> tourism websites by religious extremists. The Australian Government are
> cautioning travellers about bandits using fake motor accidents to rob
> 'good
> Samaritans.
>
> I appreciate the suggestion on Plitvica
>
> I wonder if you could also offer some pointers on car hire, as I now
> understand things we really need to hire the car in Croatia, are there any
> places you know of that give you a long leasing deal like the Renault
> deals
> you get in France and Italy.
>
> Do you know what the prospects of getting accommodation 'on the fly' in
> April May as one drives down the coast through towns that suggest a stay

Outside of the peak months finding accomodation in the small towns/villages
is no problem at all.

OTOH finding resturants is.

No doubt it is easy to find both in the larger towns, but these are very
often not car friendly.

tim
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 6:16 am
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"Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>
> The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there are
> really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
> English,

Hm,

When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
speak German", but they still persisted with German
despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
likely to be something that they struggled with)

tim
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 6:17 am
  #23  
Tim.....
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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:27:16 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to "TonyF" <[email protected]> :
>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
>>>regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
>>>trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>>>
>>> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
>>> Dubrovnik
>>>in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
>>> keeping
>>>out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
>>>rules).
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>Just drive politely and predictably - as you would everywhere else -
>>you'll
>>have no trouble.
>
> Do that in NL and you are dead.

Presumably only in those parts where you meet Belgians.

tim
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 7:46 am
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Goran UnreaL Krajnovic
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tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>
>> The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there are
>> really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
>> English,
>
> Hm,
>
> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
> speak German", but they still persisted with German
> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
> likely to be something that they struggled with)

Was it perhaps a German tourist?

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Old Jan 18th 2007, 8:17 am
  #25  
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TonyF wrote:
> Thanks for the response Arthur,
>
> We were cautioned by our local travel agent and by postings on
> soc.culture.Croatia. and by hacks of Croatian tourism websites by religious
> extremists.
>
> Although reading the Croatian government tourism web site makes
> everything look safe, simple and attractive.
>
> Do you actually have first hand experience and knowledge of driving there ?
>
> TonyF
>
> "arthur" <azer@ty> wrote in message news:mn.8d297d7118d7d5fd.62070@ty...
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> > > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
> motoring
> > > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
> > >
> > > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
> Dubrovnik
> > > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
> >
> > Are you kidding ?
> >
> > > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
> keeping
> > > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
> rules).
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance
> >
> > My advise : don't ever show this message to a Croatian and everything
rodes in CROATIA ARE SAFE AS ANY OTHER IN EUROPE. i have been driving
for 8 years and didn t have an accident. if you have basic driving
culture ( letting someone out of a parking space, try to drive fast
enough, giving flash signs when you have noticed a police
checkpoint...) you wont have any problems. croatians are only nervous
in cars when somebody is drivin too slow but when they see a foreign
licence plates in a local street they understand (at least most
croatian drivers) you really shouldnt have any problems driving in
Croatia. sincerely Igor (a Croat)
> > will be fine.
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 9:25 am
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Tim.....
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"Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there
>>> are
>>> really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
>>> English,
>>
>> Hm,
>>
>> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
>> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
>> speak German", but they still persisted with German
>> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
>> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
>> likely to be something that they struggled with)
>
> Was it perhaps a German tourist?

me, or the resturant owner?

tim
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 9:36 am
  #27  
David Horne
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tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hello All,
> >
> > The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there are
> > really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
> > English,
>
> Hm,
>
> When in Istria I got out my rusty Italian and was promptly
> answered in German. I said "No I am English, I don't
> speak German", but they still persisted with German
> despite my continuing with the Italian. (For those that
> don't know, Italian is the first language in Istria, so it wan't
> likely to be something that they struggled with)

That wasn't my experience there. Certainly in Pula and Rovinj, it was
rare to encounter people in restaurants who don't speak a little
English. Sometimes I would begin by speaking in Italian, and either they
would continue in Italian or just revert to English. (My Italian is also
rusty- actually it was never well-oiled to begin with.)

In Mali Losinj, the lady we rented a room from spoke only German in
addition to Croatian, so that's what I used with her.

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Old Jan 18th 2007, 10:58 am
  #28  
-TonyF
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Thanks to T and all the other generous respondents, we really appreciate all
the help you have given us and we are really looking forward to a great trip
through Croatia.


"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> >Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> >in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> Yes, of course. I can't believe you're asking this question seriously.
> Back on the topic: yes, you can do it; I do it all the time (have the
> car with Italian licence plates) and I NEVER had any problems.
> On the other side, I had a problem in Rome with bandits, so go figure.
>
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
rules).
>
> I think you said you're going to Croatia in spring. The traffic is
> relatively low that time of the year (except on the Easter weekend and
> maybe around May 1st - people tend to take short holidays, go to the
> coast, etc., that time of year). The period of the year to avoid, if
> you feel unsafe, is definitively the week of "Ferragosto", i.e. August
> 15th, when hundreds of Italian tourist go to Croatia, so the traffic is
> huge.
>
> Other then that, if you hire a car in Trieste (are you taking a low
> cost flight to Trieste? You can take Ryanair flight to Pula and I think
> they will introduce Zadar this year, too), you just have to follow the
> road signs to Slovenia, then you arive on Slovenian motorway (it starts
> right after the border, although the Italians are trying to finish
> their part of the motorway from Trieste to the border on time) and
> follow the signs to Dragonja. This is where you enter to Croatia.
> >From the border, follow the motorway sign (actually it's more a "fast
> road" then motorway, but it's OK) and you'll be able to go all the way
> to Rijeka on it. The locals call it "Ypsilon" (when you look at the
> map, you'll understand why). From Rijeka, you have two options: to
> follow the coastal road (beautiful scenery, but extremely narrow), or
> to go inland to connect with Dalmatina motorway (the new one, going all
> the way to Split; the remaining part of the motorway connecting Split
> with Dubrovnik is under construction).
>
> There are plenty of stops with rest rooms, gas stations and restaurants
> on the way. Some have scenic views (the one near Sibenik Bridge, for
> example - you can take wonderful pictures of Krka river flowing inland
> to Krka National Park (one thing to put on your to do list!); there's a
> marina near the bridge, and then the view opens to the town of Sibenik
> and its islands (including Kornati - another must).
>
> The road after Split to Dubrovnik is a scenic one, high above the sea
> level, and it offers spectacular views. As you approach the area just
> before Dubrovnik (the low part of Peljesac penisula), you'll be able to
> take the car off the road and go swimming - the beaches are wonderful
> there - without any trouble.
>
> Keep in mind that a little stretch of the coast at Neum is territory of
> Bosnia-Hercegovina, so you'll need to cross the border again.
>
> If you are indeed arriving in spring, you'll have no problems finding
> accomodation (a room, an apartment, or a hotel room).
> If you're stopping just to have a bite and sightsee and then you're
> continuing on your way, make sure you NEVER eat in the restaurants by
> the road, rather do a bit of exploration, ask locals where you can eat
> well and go there, the service will be better, as the quality-price
> relation.
>
> Any other questions, feel free to ask!
> Cheers,
> T.
>
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 10:59 am
  #29  
-TonyF
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Thanks , we really appreciate all the help you have given us and we are
really looking forward to a great trip through Croatia.

"Goran UnreaL Krajnovic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
motoring
> > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
> >
> > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
Dubrovnik
> > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
> >
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
keeping
> > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
rules).
>
> Hi, as others have already said, the situation is not that bad provided
you
> look out for kamikaze drivers. Being Croatian, I'm more used to seeing
that
> kind of driving, so I may be biased in estimating the dangers.
>
> If you want to drive along the coast, expect a winding road (2 way, 1 lane
> each way) all along the coast, passing local towns and going around larger
> ones. The speed limits will be 50 km/h in populated areas, and 60 km/h or
70
> km/h outside of towns.
>
> A general rule in Croatia is that the police has a 10 km tolerance for
speed
> measured on the radar and that your odometer typically errs on the side of
> caution showing a bit more than you really are going, and people typically
> expect you to drive this extra 10%. Generally, passing through a town at
60
> km/h in a 50 km/h zone will not raise an eyebrow and will not cause
honking
> of the car behind you. Going faster than that may get you a ticket. Just
> drive the same speed as everyone else and you're quite safe. Also,
oncoming
> cars flashing their headlights means "police patrol ahead, slow down". And
> lights on are mandatory during daytime.
>
> As far as the kamikaze drivers, yes, these are typically local folk who
know
> the road by heart and will overtake you wherever possible - in blind
turns,
> across a double line, etc. But just don't panic and don't get yourself
into
> a situation where you can't safely go around him if he crashes headon into
a
> truck, and you'll be perfectly fine.
>
> As far as terrorists or bandits are concerned, there are none. No, really.
> To get into trouble you'd really have to look for it (e.g. walk into a bar
> full of drunken football fans and start insulting everyone ).
>
> The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there are
> really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
> English, and is used to finding ways of communication with the tourists,
but
> expect an Italian style "take it easy" approach with the waiters, though.
>
> Also, do try to plan a trip to Plitvice which is about halfway down to
> Dubrovnik, but somewhat more on the continental side, so it's a slight
> detour - but it's worth it.
>
> --
> UnreaL.
> [ Standard disclaimers apply. Personal opinions only. May explode in
fire. ]
 
Old Jan 18th 2007, 11:01 pm
  #30  
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TonyF wrote:
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal regions
> of Croatia

Yugoslavia, Experiences in
http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Yugo.html won't be of much help
but it might be of some interest.

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