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Driving In/To Croatia (from Trieste)

Old Jan 17th 2007, 7:43 am
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-TonyF
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Hello All,

My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.

Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.

Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).

Thanks in Advance
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 8:01 am
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-Arthur
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> Hello All,
>
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
> trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>
> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.

Are you kidding ?

> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
> Thanks in Advance

My advise : don't ever show this message to a Croatian and everything
will be fine.

Arthur
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 8:44 am
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-TonyF
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Thanks for the response Arthur,

We were cautioned by our local travel agent and by postings on
soc.culture.Croatia. and by hacks of Croatian tourism websites by religious
extremists.

Although reading the Croatian government tourism web site makes
everything look safe, simple and attractive.

Do you actually have first hand experience and knowledge of driving there ?

TonyF

"arthur" <azer@ty> wrote in message news:mn.8d297d7118d7d5fd.62070@ty...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
motoring
> > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
> >
> > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
Dubrovnik
> > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> Are you kidding ?
>
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
keeping
> > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
rules).
> >
> > Thanks in Advance
>
> My advise : don't ever show this message to a Croatian and everything
> will be fine.
>
> Arthur
>
>
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 8:50 am
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Tim.....
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"TonyF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello All,
>
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
> trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>
> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.

You are kidding. (aren't you?)

>
> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
> rules).

Croatians are some of the worst drivers for respecting rules that I have
seen in Europe. You need to watch out for the kamiakze ones overtaking
when others (even Belgians) have the sense not to. Other than this, you
should be fine.

The coast road should be a much easier drive now that the Motorway
alternative is completed. I presume that you would want the scenic
route? Though you really should detour to Plitvica in one direction
Doing this and not using the motorway would be silly.

tim
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 11:16 am
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Jack Campin - bogus addre
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> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.

The coast road twists along the edge of a cliff for hundreds of miles.
I've only been along it in a bus; driving it yourself, you'd be so
focused on not joining the burned-out wrecks below you that you
wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the (amazing) scenery. There is a
new inland road I haven't been on; it avoids the hazards and also
avoids most of the neat scenery.


> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping out of
> trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).

Practice shouting "**** your mother" while giving the finger with one
hand and blasting the horn with the other and you'll pass as a native.

It's a great place but I would *not* want to drive there unless somebody
was paying me.

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
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Old Jan 17th 2007, 11:26 am
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-TonyF
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Thanks for your inputs Tim

Not Kidding, We were cautioned against car travel by our local travel agent
and by postings on soc.culture.croatia. and by hacks of several Croatian
tourism websites by religious extremists. The Australian Government are
cautioning travellers about bandits using fake motor accidents to rob 'good
Samaritans.

I appreciate the suggestion on Plitvica

I wonder if you could also offer some pointers on car hire, as I now
understand things we really need to hire the car in Croatia, are there any
places you know of that give you a long leasing deal like the Renault deals
you get in France and Italy.

Do you know what the prospects of getting accommodation 'on the fly' in
April May as one drives down the coast through towns that suggest a stay
would be worthwhile.

Is there a prepaid mobile SIM card you can buy that gives good mobile
coverage in Croatia.

In the hope you would be kind enough to allow me to pick your brains on
these Issues.

Regards, Tony


"tim....." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "TonyF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> > regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free
motoring
> > trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
> >
> > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to
Dubrovnik
> > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> You are kidding. (aren't you?)
>
> >
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on
keeping
> > out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road
> > rules).
>
> Croatians are some of the worst drivers for respecting rules that I have
> seen in Europe. You need to watch out for the kamiakze ones overtaking
> when others (even Belgians) have the sense not to. Other than this, you
> should be fine.
>
> The coast road should be a much easier drive now that the Motorway
> alternative is completed. I presume that you would want the scenic
> route? Though you really should detour to Plitvica in one direction
> Doing this and not using the motorway would be silly.
>
> tim
>
>
>
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 11:35 am
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-TonyF
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Thanks Jack,

Can you stop along these cliff roads to take a picture or are
they narrow ledges along a cliff.


The natives sound like Australia's Sydneysiders in peak hour


"Jack Campin - bogus address" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> The coast road twists along the edge of a cliff for hundreds of miles.
> I've only been along it in a bus; driving it yourself, you'd be so
> focused on not joining the burned-out wrecks below you that you
> wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the (amazing) scenery. There is a
> new inland road I haven't been on; it avoids the hazards and also
> avoids most of the neat scenery.
>
>
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping out of
> > trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
> Practice shouting "**** your mother" while giving the finger with one
> hand and blasting the horn with the other and you'll pass as a native.
>
> It's a great place but I would *not* want to drive there unless somebody
> was paying me.
>
> ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk
=============> Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660
4760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554
975
> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739
557
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 11:51 am
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-TonyF
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P.S Great pictures and Humour on your site.

Cheers,


"Jack Campin - bogus address" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> > in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> The coast road twists along the edge of a cliff for hundreds of miles.
> I've only been along it in a bus; driving it yourself, you'd be so
> focused on not joining the burned-out wrecks below you that you
> wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the (amazing) scenery. There is a
> new inland road I haven't been on; it avoids the hazards and also
> avoids most of the neat scenery.
>
>
> > Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping out of
> > trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
> Practice shouting "**** your mother" while giving the finger with one
> hand and blasting the horn with the other and you'll pass as a native.
>
> It's a great place but I would *not* want to drive there unless somebody
> was paying me.
>
> ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk
=============> Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660
4760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554
975
> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739
557
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 11:57 am
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Jack Campin - bogus addre
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>>> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
>>> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>> The coast road twists along the edge of a cliff for hundreds of miles.
> Can you stop along these cliff roads to take a picture or are
> they narrow ledges along a cliff.

For most of it, there are frequent enough wider spots to stop for
photos. But there are also frequent stretches of exactly-two-lane
road where any crash or breakdown can cause a horrendous snarlup.

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk =============Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 5:40 pm
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Goran UnreaL Krajnovic
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TonyF <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
> regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
> trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>
> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
> in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
> out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).

Hi, as others have already said, the situation is not that bad provided you
look out for kamikaze drivers. Being Croatian, I'm more used to seeing that
kind of driving, so I may be biased in estimating the dangers.

If you want to drive along the coast, expect a winding road (2 way, 1 lane
each way) all along the coast, passing local towns and going around larger
ones. The speed limits will be 50 km/h in populated areas, and 60 km/h or 70
km/h outside of towns.

A general rule in Croatia is that the police has a 10 km tolerance for speed
measured on the radar and that your odometer typically errs on the side of
caution showing a bit more than you really are going, and people typically
expect you to drive this extra 10%. Generally, passing through a town at 60
km/h in a 50 km/h zone will not raise an eyebrow and will not cause honking
of the car behind you. Going faster than that may get you a ticket. Just
drive the same speed as everyone else and you're quite safe. Also, oncoming
cars flashing their headlights means "police patrol ahead, slow down". And
lights on are mandatory during daytime.

As far as the kamikaze drivers, yes, these are typically local folk who know
the road by heart and will overtake you wherever possible - in blind turns,
across a double line, etc. But just don't panic and don't get yourself into
a situation where you can't safely go around him if he crashes headon into a
truck, and you'll be perfectly fine.

As far as terrorists or bandits are concerned, there are none. No, really.
To get into trouble you'd really have to look for it (e.g. walk into a bar
full of drunken football fans and start insulting everyone ).

The coastal part of Croatia does live off tourism, you know, and there are
really lots of tourists in the summer. Most everyone speaks Italian or
English, and is used to finding ways of communication with the tourists, but
expect an Italian style "take it easy" approach with the waiters, though.

Also, do try to plan a trip to Plitvice which is about halfway down to
Dubrovnik, but somewhat more on the continental side, so it's a slight
detour - but it's worth it.

--
UnreaL.
[ Standard disclaimers apply. Personal opinions only. May explode in fire. ]
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 6:27 pm
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Tim C .
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Following up to "TonyF" <[email protected]> :

>Hello All,
>
> My Wife and I are contemplating a tour around the coastal
>regions of Croatia. We are in our 60s and have had incident free motoring
>trips in the USA, Australia, Norway and Italy.
>
> Can one drive down the coast from Trieste (Italy) to Dubrovnik
>in relative safety from insurgents, terrorists, bandits etc.
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping
>out of trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
> Thanks in Advance

Just drive politely and predictably - as you would everywhere else - you'll
have no trouble.

--
Tim C.
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 6:30 pm
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Tim C .
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Following up to Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> :

>> Can anyone give me some pointers and good advise on keeping out of
>> trouble when driving in Croatia (other that obeying the road rules).
>
>Practice shouting "**** your mother" while giving the finger with one
>hand and blasting the horn with the other and you'll pass as a native.
>
>It's a great place but I would *not* want to drive there unless somebody
>was paying me.

It's alright, at least the northern end is ok, apart from the unbelievable
numbers of "White Van Man". I've driven there in a car and on a motorbike
quite often. I don't find them generally any more aggressive or rude than
Austria or northern Italy.
--
Tim C.
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 6:32 pm
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Tim C .
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Following up to "TonyF" <[email protected]> :

>
> Can you stop along these cliff roads to take a picture or are
>they narrow ledges along a cliff.

As Jack says, it's a lot of 2 lane sections, but with frequent lay-bys,
especially at some of the more scenic spots.
Note: many of the lay-bys aren't tarmaced and have a pretty impressive step
down from the road.
--
Tim C.
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 6:34 pm
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Tim C .
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Following up to "tim....." <[email protected]> :

>
>The coast road should be a much easier drive now that the Motorway
>alternative is completed.

I noticed that last summer, down to Zadar anyway, that was the case.
Avoid the coast road between Friday and Monday inclusive in the Summer -
holidaymakers' shift change.
--
Tim C.
 
Old Jan 17th 2007, 7:38 pm
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TonyF) wrote:

> Is there a prepaid mobile SIM card you can buy that gives good mobile
> coverage in Croatia.

T-Mobile has a Croatian operation, so probably (note the hedging!) any
T-Mobile SIM will work. You'll need a compatible handset, of course -
where are you from?
 

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