Crowds & weather: UK, Germany, Spain in late Aug/early Sept?
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We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
mid-September.
We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
this point)
1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
3. Spain & Portugal
I assume that the weather in any of these places should probably be
fine through mid-September. (How about in the northern British Isles -
is the weather still generally good there through Sept? When does it
start to turn more cold and rainy?)
We've traveled to Europe before at the height of the summer season and
we prefer to avoid the absolute worst of the crowds if possible (but we
still want the benefits of nice weather). We're hoping that the crowds
should start to thin out after Sept. 1 - is that a safe date for that
in all these areas?
Any other thoughts/suggestions on traveling in these countries during
this time period (last few days of August through mid-September)?
Thanks.
summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
mid-September.
We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
this point)
1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
3. Spain & Portugal
I assume that the weather in any of these places should probably be
fine through mid-September. (How about in the northern British Isles -
is the weather still generally good there through Sept? When does it
start to turn more cold and rainy?)
We've traveled to Europe before at the height of the summer season and
we prefer to avoid the absolute worst of the crowds if possible (but we
still want the benefits of nice weather). We're hoping that the crowds
should start to thin out after Sept. 1 - is that a safe date for that
in all these areas?
Any other thoughts/suggestions on traveling in these countries during
this time period (last few days of August through mid-September)?
Thanks.
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In article <100920051633337630%[email protected]>, [email protected]
(zingzang) wrote:
> *From:* zingzang <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:33:33 -0700
>
> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
>
> We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
>
> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> mid-September.
>
> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> this point)
>
> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
>
> 2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
>
> 3. Spain & Portugal
It's a good time for all of them. Great weather's not guaranteed anywhere
except maybe in parts of Iberia, but it's highly unlikely to be wintry
anywhere either. Options 1. and 2. will likely range from T-shirt weather
to light sweater weather, tending toward the former. Rain is invariably
possible!
One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there is
a public holiday in the UK at the end of August, creating a long weekend
which generally makes tourist attractions, hotels etc. /very/ busy, as
it's the last holiday weekend of the summer.
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The poster formerly known as [email protected].
(zingzang) wrote:
> *From:* zingzang <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:33:33 -0700
>
> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
>
> We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
>
> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> mid-September.
>
> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> this point)
>
> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
>
> 2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
>
> 3. Spain & Portugal
It's a good time for all of them. Great weather's not guaranteed anywhere
except maybe in parts of Iberia, but it's highly unlikely to be wintry
anywhere either. Options 1. and 2. will likely range from T-shirt weather
to light sweater weather, tending toward the former. Rain is invariably
possible!
One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there is
a public holiday in the UK at the end of August, creating a long weekend
which generally makes tourist attractions, hotels etc. /very/ busy, as
it's the last holiday weekend of the summer.
----------------------------------------------
The poster formerly known as [email protected].
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>> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
>> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
>> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
>> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
>> mid-September.
>> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
>> this point)
>> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
> is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
No there isn't.
> creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
> hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
> summer.
There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
time. It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
and the Edinburgh Festival. And the further away from England you go
the less of a problem you'll have. Nobody from Milton Keynes will be
visiting South Uist for the weekend.
So far, weather up here in September has been reasonable. We've just
had a couple of days of rain but overall it's been warm and sunny.
Look at the BBC's weather pages or the Weather Underground site for
a better idea. It's not one of the more predictable times of year.
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>> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
>> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
>> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
>> mid-September.
>> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
>> this point)
>> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
> is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
No there isn't.
> creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
> hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
> summer.
There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
time. It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
and the Edinburgh Festival. And the further away from England you go
the less of a problem you'll have. Nobody from Milton Keynes will be
visiting South Uist for the weekend.
So far, weather up here in September has been reasonable. We've just
had a couple of days of rain but overall it's been warm and sunny.
Look at the BBC's weather pages or the Weather Underground site for
a better idea. It's not one of the more predictable times of year.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
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Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> >> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> >> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
> >> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> >> mid-September.
> >> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> >> this point)
> >> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> > One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
> > is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
>
> No there isn't.
>
> > creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
> > hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
> > summer.
>
> There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
> time.
If you're going to nitpick, you may as well mention Wales and Northern
Ireland- they share the 'English' bank holiday.
> It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
> but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
> and the Edinburgh Festival.
The Italians holiday in July? News to me. You have evidence that more
Italians visit Scotland during that period than people from England?
Thought not.
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> >> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> >> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> >> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
> >> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> >> mid-September.
> >> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> >> this point)
> >> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> > One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
> > is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
>
> No there isn't.
>
> > creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
> > hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
> > summer.
>
> There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
> time.
If you're going to nitpick, you may as well mention Wales and Northern
Ireland- they share the 'English' bank holiday.
> It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
> but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
> and the Edinburgh Festival.
The Italians holiday in July? News to me. You have evidence that more
Italians visit Scotland during that period than people from England?
Thought not.
--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
photos at http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer
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"zingzang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
> We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> mid-September.
> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> this point)
> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> 2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
> 3. Spain & Portugal
> I assume that the weather in any of these places should probably be
> fine through mid-September. (How about in the northern British Isles -
> is the weather still generally good there through Sept?
Scotland can get cold in September, not freezing but almost.
> When does it
> start to turn more cold and rainy?)
There is never a month when Scotland can be guaranteed not to be
rainy.
> We've traveled to Europe before at the height of the summer season and
> we prefer to avoid the absolute worst of the crowds if possible (but we
> still want the benefits of nice weather). We're hoping that the crowds
> should start to thin out after Sept. 1 - is that a safe date for that
> in all these areas?
> Any other thoughts/suggestions on traveling in these countries during
> this time period (last few days of August through mid-September)?
I would start at the North and work downwards.
tim
news:100920051633337630%[email protected]...
> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season.
> We'll have about 3 weeks maximum for the trip.
> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
> mid-September.
> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
> this point)
> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
> 2. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (and maybe Austria and/or Czech Rep.)
> 3. Spain & Portugal
> I assume that the weather in any of these places should probably be
> fine through mid-September. (How about in the northern British Isles -
> is the weather still generally good there through Sept?
Scotland can get cold in September, not freezing but almost.
> When does it
> start to turn more cold and rainy?)
There is never a month when Scotland can be guaranteed not to be
rainy.
> We've traveled to Europe before at the height of the summer season and
> we prefer to avoid the absolute worst of the crowds if possible (but we
> still want the benefits of nice weather). We're hoping that the crowds
> should start to thin out after Sept. 1 - is that a safe date for that
> in all these areas?
> Any other thoughts/suggestions on traveling in these countries during
> this time period (last few days of August through mid-September)?
I would start at the North and work downwards.
tim
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:40:52 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
>>> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
>>> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
>>> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
>>> mid-September.
>>> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
>>> this point)
>>> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
>> One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
>> is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
>No there isn't.
Yes there is August Bank Holiday everywhere in UK except Scotland.
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...kholidays.html
and Summer Bank Holiday in Scotland
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publicati...1/bankholidays
>> creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
>> hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
>> summer.
>There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
>time. It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
>but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
>and the Edinburgh Festival. And the further away from England you go
>the less of a problem you'll have. Nobody from Milton Keynes will be
>visiting South Uist for the weekend.
>So far, weather up here in September has been reasonable. We've just
>had a couple of days of rain but overall it's been warm and sunny.
>Look at the BBC's weather pages or the Weather Underground site for
>a better idea. It's not one of the more predictable times of year.
>============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
>Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
><http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
>stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> We're casting about for our next trip to Europe around the end of
>>> summer 2006, and wondering how best to balance the good weather of late
>>> summer/early fall, against the crush of the high tourist season. [...]
>>> We'll probably depart in the last few days in August, returning in
>>> mid-September.
>>> We're considering the following trips (these are just rough outlines at
>>> this point)
>>> 1. The UK/British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, maybe Ireland).
>> One thing you should bear in mind if you choose option 1. is that there
>> is a public holiday in the UK at the end of August,
>No there isn't.
Yes there is August Bank Holiday everywhere in UK except Scotland.
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...kholidays.html
and Summer Bank Holiday in Scotland
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publicati...1/bankholidays
>> creating a long weekend which generally makes tourist attractions,
>> hotels etc. /very/ busy, as it's the last holiday weekend of the
>> summer.
>There is, on the other hand, a public holiday in *England* at that
>time. It creates a bit of crowding in Scotland from English tourists
>but nothing like what you get in July and August from Italian holidays
>and the Edinburgh Festival. And the further away from England you go
>the less of a problem you'll have. Nobody from Milton Keynes will be
>visiting South Uist for the weekend.
>So far, weather up here in September has been reasonable. We've just
>had a couple of days of rain but overall it's been warm and sunny.
>Look at the BBC's weather pages or the Weather Underground site for
>a better idea. It's not one of the more predictable times of year.
>============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
>Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
><http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
>stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
--
Martin
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