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Old Apr 9th 2005, 9:15 am
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I will be in Cote d'Azur for a week. Where would be a great place to go
in September.
Should I rent a car ???
 
Old Apr 9th 2005, 9:50 am
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"Skuaman" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >I will be in Cote d'Azur for a week. Where would be a
    > great place to go in September. Should I rent a car ???

Rent the move, "To Catch a Thief" (1955) with Cary Grant
and Grace Kelly, which was filmed there. Stay at the
Carlton Hotel in Cannes which is in the movie and walk in
their footsteps. Rent a car for at least one day for a drive
to Nice and/or St. Tropez. ... Its what we did, anyway. =R=
 
Old Apr 9th 2005, 10:02 am
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Skuaman <[email protected]> wrote in news:2005040917150316807%
skuaman@gmailcom:

    > I will be in Cote d'Azur for a week. Where would be a great place to go
    > in September.
    > Should I rent a car ???
    >

Villefranche sur mer stunning views of a beautiful bay.
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 11:17 am
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"Skuaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I will be in Cote d'Azur for a week. Where would be a great place to go
    > in September.
    > Should I rent a car ???
If you're only going for a week then the most logical and central place to
stay is Nice. You can see just about everything by taking buses and trains.
If price is not a problem then stay at the Negresco Hotel.

September is a great time of year to go and I wouldn't recommend a car for
such a short trip, as I assume your sightseeing will be primarily along the
coast. If you want to travel inland then take the scenic Petit Train des
Pignes for an excursion. More info here:
http://www.provencebeyond.com/index.html

Lana
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 3:11 pm
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"Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Rent a car for at least one day for a drive
    > to Nice and/or St. Tropez. ... Its what we did, anyway. =R=

If they're there for a week a trip to Monte Carlo (Monaco) is good too, or a
day over the border in Italy (San Remo). Also try going inland, maybe to
Grasse.

Ian
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 3:54 pm
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"Ian F." <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Also try going inland, maybe to Grasse.

I almost forgot to mention one of the reasons that my wife
wanted a car when we were in Cannes was so she could
tour a perfumery in Grasse, for which Grasse is well known.
We spent 2x hours traipsing about an odor factory, listening
to a tour in German (too late for the English tour), at the end
of which, my wife spends a butt-load of money on all sorts
of stuff, while sit and watch her wander about the showroom,
picking things out. An experience not to be missed. =R=
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 7:48 pm
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:54:21 -0400, "Rog'"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Ian F." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Also try going inland, maybe to Grasse.
    >I almost forgot to mention one of the reasons that my wife
    >wanted a car when we were in Cannes was so she could
    >tour a perfumery in Grasse, for which Grasse is well known.
    >We spent 2x hours traipsing about an odor factory, listening
    >to a tour in German (too late for the English tour), at the end
    >of which, my wife spends a butt-load of money on all sorts
    >of stuff, while sit and watch her wander about the showroom,
    >picking things out. An experience not to be missed. =R=

Yeah, but does she smell nice?

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Old Apr 10th 2005, 8:12 pm
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On 11/04/05 5:11, in article [email protected], "Ian F."
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]. ..
    >
    >> Rent a car for at least one day for a drive
    >> to Nice and/or St. Tropez. ... Its what we did, anyway. =R=
    >
    > If they're there for a week a trip to Monte Carlo (Monaco) is good too, or a
    > day over the border in Italy (San Remo). Also try going inland, maybe to
    > Grasse.
`

We have spent a lot of summers in the immediate region but always stayed
in Menton. A car is a must if you wish to tour the back country, A
Michelin Green guide will give you trips to make. The "Arriere pays
Nicois" is a nice tour, back through Peille, Peillon. Sospel and if
you wish a nice climb to Saorge, which is given a **. We always
also go to Saint Agnes just above Menton, one of their small
cheap restaurants has an excellent rabbit.

When the provinces were liberated in August-September of 1941, Menton
was too but the back country was not and Menton was occasionally shelled
from Saint Agnes, which has a bunker. In fact the whole area was fortified
by the French prior to WWII, so there are a number of archaic fortifications
in the back country. In June of 1940s, the Italians invaded with their top
troops but only got as far as Menton, stopped by the French, and they
had not success in the mountainous areas beyhind the coast. Driving
through there will underline the fact that it is an area easy to defend
and hard to attack.

Next, a trip inland also gets away from the excessive numbers of people
along the coast. If the day is hot, it will be very cool in the mountains.

Since we have lived in France 30 years and first starting coming in the
early 1960s we have "see it done that" in the area around Nice (we never
learned to love Nice, however, and the area around Cannes is a bit too
something. Last summer we stayed near Castellet-Beausetts in the hill
country north of Bandol-Toulon at a delightful small place
( see http://www.lesquatresaisons.org/demeure.html for photos) and will go
back there this year. Their French bouledogue, "Thor", is pictured and he
does give our dachshund a strong "look-see" during our visits. The place
is ran by two men who ran a restaurant in Paris for a long time, One of them
is a good cook and provides dinner each evening, on a terrace which provides
a magnificant view all the way to the coast about 20 miles away. Staying
there is almost "la vie de chateau". They have a swimming pool, which when
it gets up to 35°C furnishes a nice place to cool off. Demi-pension
permits one to tour around during the day, return after lunch and swim
a bit. A place like this ends up costing, for two, about 200 euros a day.
In Menton, we stayed at the L'Aignon on demi-pension. When we were young
and poorer we used to stay full pensions in Menton (in the 1960s-early 70s)
at some absurdly low price, $12/day per person. Even today, if one
goes into the back country one can find a lower level hotel offering
pension at maybe 50 euros a day/person. With the price of of gasoline
and moving around, one can not tour France by car for less than 100/day
per person, so staying in one places is more affordable.

Previous years we have stayed just to the north at Le Luc and did daily
motor trips back to places like Le Thoronet. Other years we stayed up
further north up just east of Avignon. The region has an immense
number of choices.

While good Americans go to Paris when they die, the French prefer this
part of the world.

Earl
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 8:12 pm
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Mike O'Sullivan
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Rog' wrote:
    > "Ian F." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Also try going inland, maybe to Grasse.
    >
    >
    > I almost forgot to mention one of the reasons that my wife
    > wanted a car when we were in Cannes was so she could
    > tour a perfumery in Grasse, for which Grasse is well known.
    > We spent 2x hours traipsing about an odor factory, listening
    > to a tour in German (too late for the English tour), at the end
    > of which, my wife spends a butt-load of money on all sorts
    > of stuff, while sit and watch her wander about the showroom,
    > picking things out. An experience not to be missed. =R=
    >
I was part of a group that did this tour. The English commentary was
very interesting, and half way through some of our number tried asking a
few questions. The girl did noy understand, and it was obvious that she
had learnt the English commentary parrot-fashion and did not actually
understand the language at all. Pretty impressive feat actually.
 
Old Apr 10th 2005, 8:22 pm
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On 11/04/05 9:48, in article [email protected],
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Yeah, but does she smell nice?

Maybe natural is better??

"In one of Napoleon's most infamous letters to the former Marie-Joséphe-Rose
de Tascher, the Corsican general implored her to avoid perfumes or unguents.
He wanted to fully inhale her body odor. "

Voila

Earl

****




Soaking Solution

By Tracey O'Shaughnessy

In the heat of their torrid love affair, Napoleon penned an earnest request
to his lover, Josephine. Don't bathe.

In one of Napoleon's most infamous letters to the former Marie-Joséphe-Rose
de Tascher, the Corsican general implored her to avoid perfumes or unguents.
He wanted to fully inhale her body odor.

We've become a bit more persnickety in our olfactory tastes in the last 200
years. Americans spent a reported $700 million a year on deodorants,
antiperspirants, lotions and creams to make us smell nice -- or not at all.
All to avoid the ancillary byproduct of a crucial bodily fluid: Sweat.

Sweat, that salty stream of fluid that coats your palms when you're nervous,
streams down your temples when you're exercising and, most embarrassingly,
down your underarms when you are either, is the body's central cooling
system. You're more likely to notice it now, in the dog days of summer, but
you are sweating almost all the time and almost everywhere. The only place
there are no sweat glands are the genitals.

But increasingly, Americans want to find relief from excess sweating, a
condition that is not fatal, but acutely embarrassing. The condition,
hyperhidrosis, affects up to 8 million Americans for whom traditional
methods offer no relief.

The condition is not necessarily dangerous but can be acutely embarrassing,
so much so that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration recently approved
Botox to treat excessive underarm sweating.

"To those who criticized this approval in the press as nothing more than a
cosmetic indulgence, I suggest they speak to some of my patients who say
they are afraid to shake hands or raise their arms and have to change shirts
frequently for fear of being embarrassed," said Dr. Ronald L. Moy, a Los
Angeles dermatological surgeon. "For them, Botox will eliminate this
personal stigma and restore their self-confidence."

Nearly 90 percent of Americans make a point of dabbing on a leading
deodorant or antiperspirant at least once a week, according to Mediamark
Research Inc. A quarter of all Americans don't want to take any chances, and
apply such protection more than once a day.

Botox may offer some relief, but it is expensive, an estimated $500 to
$1,000 a treatment, said Dr. Philip Kerr, a dermatologist at the University
of Connecticut. Some insurance companies cover the cost, said Dr. Carolyn I.
Jacob, a dermatologic surgeon in Chicago. She said she was surprised the FDA
approved Botox for the underarms first because sweaty palms can be more of
animpediment, particularly in driving.

"I have people who can literally stand there and wring sweat from their
hands," she said. "It's terribly embarrassing."

Botox, Botulinim Toxin Type A, works by inhibiting the neurotransmitter
acetycholine, the chemical on the sweat gland that stimulates sweat. It is
injected 16 or 17 times in each underarm just under the skin and remains
effective for six to nine months. "The reason it works is it inhibits
acetycholine, the main player in the release of sweat from the eccrine
gland," said Jacob.

But Botox is generally not the first line of defense for excessive sweating.
Other medicines, notably aluminum chloride hexahydrate, are generally used
first.

That topical medicine can be applied to the affected area nightly, said
Kerr, but it can cause skin irritation. Still, he said, "It is very
effective for a lot of people, particularly under the arms."

The body has about 2 million to 4 million sweat glands, which reside midway
through the skin and actually become larger the more we exercise. There are
two types of sweat glands, eccrine glands and apocrine glands. Both produce
perspiration, a cocktail of water, salt and trace amounts of electrolytes
that helps regulate body temperature.

The eccrine glands are relatively benign, producing an odorless salty fluid.
The sweat on your palms, for instance, comes from the eccrine glands. By
contrast, apocrine glands, which are on your scalp, underarms and genitals,
produces sweat that interacts with bacteria and "produce what we would
consider today a foul odor," says Kerr.

The contemporary reference is not incidental and may explain Napoleon's
feverish attachment to Josephine's odor. "These glands are on us for a
reason," Kerr explains. He speculates that the apocrine glands, which are
not developed until puberty, emit an odor found to be sexually stimulating.
"Now," he says, "our sensibilities have changed and we consider it foul."

Other factors, including foods or drugs, influence how a person's sweat
smells. But it is usually not simply the scent, but the amount of sweat that
causes those with hyperhidrosis to seek treatment.

"A lot of times people don't realize it's abnormal or that it's a condition
that can be treated," said Jacob.

Treatment generally focuses on cutting down on the nerve impulses that
causes the sweat glands to kick into action or plug up the sweat ducts to
decrease perspiration and water. Aluminum chloride hexahydrate is one of
those treatments. But it is less effective for sweaty palms because of the
amount of touching a person does in a day. Those patients may decide on an
anticholinergic pill, which attacks the nerve endings to the sweat glands,
inhibiting sweat. But that pill can cause bladder retention, dry mouth and
constipation.

Others patients use iontophoresis, in which they place their hands or
underarms in a salt water solution treated with an electrical charge.
Patients use a home-operated machine a few times a week to shock the sweat
glands to stop producing sweat. Finally, surgical options are available that
damage the nerves that produce the sweating in the first place, a last
resort for patients.

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Old Apr 10th 2005, 9:46 pm
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:22:57 +0200, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 11/04/05 9:48, in article [email protected],
    >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Yeah, but does she smell nice?
    >Maybe natural is better??
    >"In one of Napoleon's most infamous letters to the former Marie-Joséphe-Rose
    >de Tascher, the Corsican general implored her to avoid perfumes or unguents.
    >He wanted to fully inhale her body odor. "

& this was in the days when they rarely washed.

LOL The things one learns on RTE
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http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/m...phe.htm#plural
 
Old Apr 11th 2005, 1:32 am
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On 11/04/05 11:46, in article [email protected],
"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> "In one of Napoleon's most infamous letters to the former Marie-Joséphe-Rose
    >> de Tascher, the Corsican general implored her to avoid perfumes or unguents.
    >> He wanted to fully inhale her body odor. "
    >
    > & this was in the days when they rarely washed.
    >
    > LOL The things one learns on RTE

Actually there is a negative side of washing too much. The use
of soap changes the skin acidity (pH) and actually promotes the growth
of staph. As for Josephine's welcoming--the piece of health information
might address that point.

Earl

*****

The Healthy Vagina

The vagina is actually very good at taking care of itself - if left to its
own devices! It contains a healthy population of bacteria (called
lactobacilli) which keep the environment slightly acidic.

Things can go wrong if anything happens to disrupt this normal, healthy
balance - common causes include antibiotics, overwashing , douching or the
use of strong soaps, shower gels and vaginal deodorants.

****
 
Old Apr 11th 2005, 4:12 am
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Rog' <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I almost forgot to mention one of the reasons that my wife
    > wanted a car when we were in Cannes was so she could
    > tour a perfumery in Grasse,

The Cannes-Grasse railway line just repoened a few days ago :-)


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Old Apr 11th 2005, 4:15 am
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Also have to vote for Nice. Lots to do there and easy to get to the other
towns by car or train (well, relatively easy). Smaller places are nice, but
not much to do in the evening except maybe sit in a café.

"szozu" <hoppbunny at hotmail com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Skuaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:2005040917150316807%skuaman@gmailcom...
    >> I will be in Cote d'Azur for a week. Where would be a great place to go
    >> in September.
    >> Should I rent a car ???
    > If you're only going for a week then the most logical and central place to
    > stay is Nice. You can see just about everything by taking buses and
    > trains.
    > If price is not a problem then stay at the Negresco Hotel.
    > September is a great time of year to go and I wouldn't recommend a car for
    > such a short trip, as I assume your sightseeing will be primarily along
    > the
    > coast. If you want to travel inland then take the scenic Petit Train des
    > Pignes for an excursion. More info here:
    > http://www.provencebeyond.com/index.html
    > Lana
    >
 

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