Coffee shops on the border?
Dec 29th 2006, 6:04 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
JohnT wrote:
> "Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> > Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
> > <[email protected]> writted:
> >
> >>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
> >>>abuse.
> >>
> >>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
> >
> > Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
> > --
>
> I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
> well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
> drug.
>
> JohnT
Why ??
> "Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> > Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
> > <[email protected]> writted:
> >
> >>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
> >>>abuse.
> >>
> >>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
> >
> > Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
> > --
>
> I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
> well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
> drug.
>
> JohnT
Why ??
Dec 29th 2006, 8:07 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>> --
>
>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>drug.
I am not alone :-)
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Martin
>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>> --
>
>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>drug.
I am not alone :-)
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Martin
Dec 29th 2006, 8:51 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> >in message news:[email protected]...
> >> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
> >> <[email protected]> writted:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> >>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
> >>>>abuse.
> >>>
> >>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
> >>
> >> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
> >> --
> >
> >I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
> >well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
> >drug.
>
> I am not alone :-)
hehe
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> >in message news:[email protected]...
> >> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
> >> <[email protected]> writted:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> >>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
> >>>>abuse.
> >>>
> >>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
> >>
> >> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
> >> --
> >
> >I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
> >well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
> >drug.
>
> I am not alone :-)
hehe
Dec 29th 2006, 8:52 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:34:38 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:14:15 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin
>><[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>
>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>
>>I wouldn't mind at all.
>
>You aren't a typical resident of a small God fearing Dutch village.
I didn't think the Dutch were all that religious.
>Open a pot shop and save Italians their long drives to buy drugs in NL.
Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:14:15 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin
>><[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>
>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>
>>I wouldn't mind at all.
>
>You aren't a typical resident of a small God fearing Dutch village.
I didn't think the Dutch were all that religious.
>Open a pot shop and save Italians their long drives to buy drugs in NL.
Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Dec 29th 2006, 8:53 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT"
<[email protected]> writted:
>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>> --
>
>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>drug.
Where would you rate it amongst coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and
heroin?
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<[email protected]> writted:
>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>> --
>
>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>drug.
Where would you rate it amongst coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and
heroin?
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Dec 29th 2006, 8:59 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B
Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>abuse.
>>
>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>
>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>their health?
>
>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>more innocuous than alcohol.
It still is. The strength is counteracted by the fact that you use
less of it. Pot isn't a drug you hit hard, but just have the right
amount, otherwise all you are doing is making yourself vaguer for the
next few days. Of course young folks will overdo it, but they aren't
likely to get into trouble, as booze will assuredly do.
>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
I smoked it daily for a couple of years whilst holding down a decent
job. The only real problem with it is that it destroys your short term
memory.
Now I find the effects to be a bit unpleasant, which must mean I'm
getting old! Yay!
)
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Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>abuse.
>>
>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>
>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>their health?
>
>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>more innocuous than alcohol.
It still is. The strength is counteracted by the fact that you use
less of it. Pot isn't a drug you hit hard, but just have the right
amount, otherwise all you are doing is making yourself vaguer for the
next few days. Of course young folks will overdo it, but they aren't
likely to get into trouble, as booze will assuredly do.
>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
I smoked it daily for a couple of years whilst holding down a decent
job. The only real problem with it is that it destroys your short term
memory.
Now I find the effects to be a bit unpleasant, which must mean I'm
getting old! Yay!
)--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Dec 29th 2006, 9:04 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:52:09 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:34:38 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:14:15 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin
>>><[email protected]> writted:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>
>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>
>>>I wouldn't mind at all.
>>
>>You aren't a typical resident of a small God fearing Dutch village.
>
>I didn't think the Dutch were all that religious.
The older generation are in some areas, where they are religious enough to
refuse to allow their kids to be vaccinated against polio or have blood
transfusions. Mainly in former fishing communities and in parts of the south.
Their kids are on all sorts of drugs.
>
>>Open a pot shop and save Italians their long drives to buy drugs in NL.
>
>Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
>Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
So why do Italians drive all the way to NL?
--
Martin
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:34:38 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:14:15 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin
>>><[email protected]> writted:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>
>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>
>>>I wouldn't mind at all.
>>
>>You aren't a typical resident of a small God fearing Dutch village.
>
>I didn't think the Dutch were all that religious.
The older generation are in some areas, where they are religious enough to
refuse to allow their kids to be vaccinated against polio or have blood
transfusions. Mainly in former fishing communities and in parts of the south.
Their kids are on all sorts of drugs.
>
>>Open a pot shop and save Italians their long drives to buy drugs in NL.
>
>Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
>Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
So why do Italians drive all the way to NL?
--
Martin
Dec 29th 2006, 9:04 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:53:45 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT"
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:[email protected]...
>>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>>abuse.
>>>>
>>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>>
>>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>>> --
>>
>>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>>drug.
>
>Where would you rate it amongst coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and
>heroin?
They are all works of the devil.
--
Martin
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:57:50 -0000, "JohnT"
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:[email protected]...
>>> Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin
>>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>>abuse.
>>>>
>>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>>
>>> Well, they do have a funny view on the world!
>>> --
>>
>>I am not Dutch and most people whom I know regard me as a reasonably
>>well-adjusted person, and I certainly regard cannabis/marijuana as a harmful
>>drug.
>
>Where would you rate it amongst coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and
>heroin?
They are all works of the devil.
--
Martin
Dec 29th 2006, 9:04 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:30:49 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>their health?
>>
>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>
> C�cile Henquet, Lydia Krabbendam, Janneke Spauwen, Charles Kaplan, Roselind
>Lieb, Hans-Ulrich Wittchen, and Jim van Os
> Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis,
>and psychotic symptoms in young people
> BMJ 2005; 330: 11 [Abstract] [Full text]
I have read quite a bit about this. Indeed, pot can bring psychosis
etc. on early, but there are many questions as to why this is,
including a lack of education, knowing when not to smoke it, combining
it with other drugs, the fear of getting caught blah blah blah. I
don't know of anyone who has ever gone psycho clearly from it's use.
>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>
>Plenty of high functioning people use cocaine.
Now that is a drug that should be banned!
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>their health?
>>
>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>
> C�cile Henquet, Lydia Krabbendam, Janneke Spauwen, Charles Kaplan, Roselind
>Lieb, Hans-Ulrich Wittchen, and Jim van Os
> Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis,
>and psychotic symptoms in young people
> BMJ 2005; 330: 11 [Abstract] [Full text]
I have read quite a bit about this. Indeed, pot can bring psychosis
etc. on early, but there are many questions as to why this is,
including a lack of education, knowing when not to smoke it, combining
it with other drugs, the fear of getting caught blah blah blah. I
don't know of anyone who has ever gone psycho clearly from it's use.
>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>
>Plenty of high functioning people use cocaine.
Now that is a drug that should be banned!
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Dec 29th 2006, 9:06 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:59:24 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B
>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>their health?
>>
>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>
>It still is. The strength is counteracted by the fact that you use
>less of it. Pot isn't a drug you hit hard, but just have the right
>amount, otherwise all you are doing is making yourself vaguer for the
>next few days. Of course young folks will overdo it, but they aren't
>likely to get into trouble, as booze will assuredly do.
>
>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>
>I smoked it daily for a couple of years whilst holding down a decent
>job. The only real problem with it is that it destroys your short term
>memory.
and in later life you may become psychotic.
>
>Now I find the effects to be a bit unpleasant, which must mean I'm
>getting old! Yay!)
Whoops! It's happening already :-)
--
Martin
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B
>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>abuse.
>>>
>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>
>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>their health?
>>
>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>
>It still is. The strength is counteracted by the fact that you use
>less of it. Pot isn't a drug you hit hard, but just have the right
>amount, otherwise all you are doing is making yourself vaguer for the
>next few days. Of course young folks will overdo it, but they aren't
>likely to get into trouble, as booze will assuredly do.
>
>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>
>I smoked it daily for a couple of years whilst holding down a decent
>job. The only real problem with it is that it destroys your short term
>memory.
and in later life you may become psychotic.
>
>Now I find the effects to be a bit unpleasant, which must mean I'm
>getting old! Yay!
)Whoops! It's happening already :-)
--
Martin
Dec 29th 2006, 9:11 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:04:59 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:30:49 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>>abuse.
>>>>
>>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>>
>>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>>their health?
>>>
>>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>>
>> C�cile Henquet, Lydia Krabbendam, Janneke Spauwen, Charles Kaplan, Roselind
>>Lieb, Hans-Ulrich Wittchen, and Jim van Os
>> Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis,
>>and psychotic symptoms in young people
>> BMJ 2005; 330: 11 [Abstract] [Full text]
>
>I have read quite a bit about this. Indeed, pot can bring psychosis
>etc. on early, but there are many questions as to why this is,
>including a lack of education, knowing when not to smoke it, combining
>it with other drugs, the fear of getting caught blah blah blah. I
>don't know of anyone who has ever gone psycho clearly from it's use.
>
>>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>>
>>Plenty of high functioning people use cocaine.
>
>Now that is a drug that should be banned!
It's very popular amongst the establishment in UK.
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:30:49 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:47 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:26:36 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently people still view weed as a harmful drug, and all use as
>>>>>abuse.
>>>>
>>>>Even the Dutch view it as a harmful drug.
>>>
>>>What percentage of the Dutch consider it a harmful drug? What
>>>percentage of Dutch youth smoke pot? Are their parents alarmed for
>>>their health?
>>>
>>>I never viewed it as especially harmful back in the 60s, but
>>>apparently today's weed is a lot more potent. I considered it a lot
>>>more innocuous than alcohol.
>>
>> C�cile Henquet, Lydia Krabbendam, Janneke Spauwen, Charles Kaplan, Roselind
>>Lieb, Hans-Ulrich Wittchen, and Jim van Os
>> Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis,
>>and psychotic symptoms in young people
>> BMJ 2005; 330: 11 [Abstract] [Full text]
>
>I have read quite a bit about this. Indeed, pot can bring psychosis
>etc. on early, but there are many questions as to why this is,
>including a lack of education, knowing when not to smoke it, combining
>it with other drugs, the fear of getting caught blah blah blah. I
>don't know of anyone who has ever gone psycho clearly from it's use.
>
>>>I knew a lot of very high functioning people who smoked pot daily.
>>
>>Plenty of high functioning people use cocaine.
>
>Now that is a drug that should be banned!
It's very popular amongst the establishment in UK.
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Dec 29th 2006, 9:11 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:12:10 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>
>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>
>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>
>I answered your question. You didn't.
>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
Because it's a crime presumably.
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>
>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>
>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>
>I answered your question. You didn't.
>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
Because it's a crime presumably.
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Dec 29th 2006, 9:12 am
#28
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:11:56 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:12:10 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>
>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>
>>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>>
>>I answered your question. You didn't.
>>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
>
>Because it's a crime presumably.
The selling growing and import is organised by criminals, not the Salvation
Army.
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:12:10 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>
>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>
>>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>>
>>I answered your question. You didn't.
>>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
>
>Because it's a crime presumably.
The selling growing and import is organised by criminals, not the Salvation
Army.
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Dec 29th 2006, 10:14 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:12:26 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:11:56 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:12:10 +0100, Martin
>><[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>>
>>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>>
>>>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>>>
>>>I answered your question. You didn't.
>>>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
>>
>>Because it's a crime presumably.
>
>The selling growing and import is organised by criminals, not the Salvation
>Army.
But they are criminals because it's a crime. If its controlled, the
undesirable elements go elsewhere anyway.
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:11:56 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:12:10 +0100, Martin
>><[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:59:46 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:06:42 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:41:17 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do the people in that quaint Dutch village want the coffee shops
>>>>>>moved out of town? I imagine that violence and the inherent evilness
>>>>>>of weed have nothing to do with that, either.
>>>>>
>>>>>They don't like their small village filled with drug buyers. Would you?
>>>>
>>>>I was replying to DFM, who said that people in San Francisco thought
>>>>weed was evil. I don't think that either the Dutch or the Californians
>>>>think it's evil, they just don't like large groups of pot heads
>>>>hanging around outside their front doors.
>>>
>>>I answered your question. You didn't.
>>>There is also crime associated with French drug buyers.
>>
>>Because it's a crime presumably.
>
>The selling growing and import is organised by criminals, not the Salvation
>Army.
But they are criminals because it's a crime. If its controlled, the
undesirable elements go elsewhere anyway.
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Dec 29th 2006, 10:15 am
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Re: Coffee shops on the border?
Let is be knownst that on Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:04:00 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:52:09 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
>>Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
>
>So why do Italians drive all the way to NL?
Beats me. It's cheaper and easier to fly.
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:52:09 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>Oh how I would love to, but I would be competing with thousands of
>>Moroccans that are here, selling it on the street.
>
>So why do Italians drive all the way to NL?
Beats me. It's cheaper and easier to fly.
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