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Old Nov 30th 2003, 12:04 am
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Gal
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Hello,

Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/

I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?

Despite my condition I'm determine to make this trip happen and have a
blast.

Thanks, everybody.
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 12:37 am
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kbecke
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Don't know about Nice, but I was told by friends who live in
Italy that there is a general lack of non-Italian restaurants
throughout Italy, and I can remember only seeing one Chinese
restaurant in Florence. Their explanation was that when most
Italians go to a restaurant for a meal, they prefer the kind
of food they could make at home, if they had time and talent.

Nevertheless, you shouldn't have trouble with local fare,
despite not being able to eat pasta or bread. There are
fabulous soups, great risottos (although not typically
Florentine, some restuarants will offer this rice dish),
grilled meats and vegetables, etc.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Gal wrote:

    > Hello,
    > Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    > flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    > I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    > and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    > pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    > be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    > I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?
    > Despite my condition I'm determine to make this trip happen and have a
    > blast.
    > Thanks, everybody.

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Old Nov 30th 2003, 1:02 am
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Luca Logi
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Gal <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    > flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    > I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    > and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    > pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    > be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/

There should be a Chinese restaurant in front of the church of S.Maria
Novella in Florence. I cannot comment on quality as I never entered a
Chinese restaurant in Florence :-)

Another big one is in front of the Porta a Prato gate, at the beginning
of via del Ponte alle Mosse. Again, I don't know but I see a lot of
Chinese partying there.

I was recommended, a couple of years ago (an eternity in restaurant
management), the Chinese restaurants in via della Condotta (near Palazzo
Vecchio) and - best - viale Lavagnini, a but out of way from the center.

BTW, Italian cooking has wonderful rice dishes. They are called
"risotto".


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Old Nov 30th 2003, 1:24 am
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Ricky
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<[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:Pine.HPX.4.53.0311300732070.183....creighton.edu...
    > Don't know about Nice, but I was told by friends who live in
    > Italy that there is a general lack of non-Italian restaurants
    > throughout Italy, and I can remember only seeing one Chinese
    > restaurant in Florence.

Florence as the majority of the italian cities are full of non italian
restaurants. Florence has the biggest chinese community of Italy so is wrong
to say that; maybe in Florence there are hundreds of chinese restaurants and
italians (and florentines too) enjoys the chinese food as the italian one.
A good chinese restaurant is Citta' Imperiale piazza Santa Maria Novella 32r
tel. 055218368 close to the Santa Maria Novella Railway Station which is the
main railway station of Florence.
Enjoy Italy and Tuscany
Ricky
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 4:40 am
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Evelynvogtgamble
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[email protected] wrote:
    >
    > Don't know about Nice, but I was told by friends who live in
    > Italy that there is a general lack of non-Italian restaurants
    > throughout Italy, and I can remember only seeing one Chinese
    > restaurant in Florence. Their explanation was that when most
    > Italians go to a restaurant for a meal, they prefer the kind
    > of food they could make at home, if they had time and talent.
    >
    > Nevertheless, you shouldn't have trouble with local fare,
    > despite not being able to eat pasta or bread. There are
    > fabulous soups, great risottos (although not typically
    > Florentine, some restuarants will offer this rice dish),
    > grilled meats and vegetables, etc.


I don't know about Nice in particular (I've never been there) but
certainly food in France should not be a problem, so long as you avoid
bread - IIRC, there are a great many French dishes that use rice - and
pasta is rather a non-issue. In fact, I honestly don't recall any meals
in France that contained anything on your "allergic" list - unless
easily identifiable, therefore avoidable. Oysters are certainly clearly
identified, and obviously you'll have to avoid "mousse au chocolate",
but even without bread (wonderful bread, too bad you can't indulge) I
doubt whether you'd go hungry, eating "native" food.
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 4:46 am
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Luca Logi wrote:
    >
    > Gal <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    > > flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    > > I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    > > and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    > > pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    > > be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    >
    > There should be a Chinese restaurant in front of the church of S.Maria
    > Novella in Florence. I cannot comment on quality as I never entered a
    > Chinese restaurant in Florence :-)
    >
    > Another big one is in front of the Porta a Prato gate, at the beginning
    > of via del Ponte alle Mosse. Again, I don't know but I see a lot of
    > Chinese partying there.
    >
    > I was recommended, a couple of years ago (an eternity in restaurant
    > management), the Chinese restaurants in via della Condotta (near Palazzo
    > Vecchio) and - best - viale Lavagnini, a but out of way from the center.
    >
    > BTW, Italian cooking has wonderful rice dishes. They are called
    > "risotto".

I was under the impression that in Italy pasta is an "entree" (in the
European sense of the term, not the "main course"), so one can easily
order a meal that does not include it. (Unlike Italian restaurants in
America, where most of the main courses involve pasta in some form.)
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 5:56 am
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Hi,
Nice is a little China/Thai/Vietnamese town for sometime now...next to the
train station there is 4 Asian fastfood...1 minute away from the train
station there is 5+ Asian restaurant....and all the way to the beach or old
town from the train station (10 to 15 minutes walk) more choice in Asian
food...take your pick.

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"Gal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    > flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    > I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    > and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    > pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    > be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    > I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?
    > Despite my condition I'm determine to make this trip happen and have a
    > blast.
    > Thanks, everybody.
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 6:11 am
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Luca Logi
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <"evgmsop -no spam"@earthlink.net> wrote:

    > I was under the impression that in Italy pasta is an "entree" (in the
    > European sense of the term, not the "main course"), so one can easily
    > order a meal that does not include it. (Unlike Italian restaurants in
    > America, where most of the main courses involve pasta in some form.)

Well, here we think as pasta or rice as a first course, and meat as a
second course. You may skip either (a meal with a pasta and a salad
would be fine, for example). But, thinking about it, having a meal at a
restaurant is somewhat more formal that eating at home, so skipping the
pasta completely sounds a little strange.

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Old Nov 30th 2003, 6:59 am
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Charles Hawtrey
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Gal <[email protected]> staggered to the nearest keyboard and wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    >flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    >I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    >and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    >pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    >be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    >I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?

Are you staying at the Ibis in Nice? (It's right beside the train
station, which is why I ask.) I've stayed there and don't recall a
Chinese restaurant anywhere nearby. But you can have a good meal in
Nice while staying clear of the items you list above. Your
restrictions don't appear to prohibit steak frites, salade niçoise, or
a wide variety of other dishes.



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Old Nov 30th 2003, 8:53 am
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Emilia
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Gal <[email protected]> wrote in news:tmojsvonvpj7hj8hrfqoaq8j3tr90f9oba@
4ax.com:

    > Hello,
    >
    > Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    > flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    > I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    > and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    > pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    > be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    >
    > I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?
    >
    > Despite my condition I'm determine to make this trip happen and have a
    > blast.
    >
    > Thanks, everybody.


I wasn't going to "flame you for not trying the local fare blah blah"
until you mentioned your dietary restictions.

Do you think Italian eatries only serve pasta & pizza????

Restaurants in Italy do serve things like beef, chicken, pork (aka
protein) with vegetables and potatos. Also in italy there is a type of
food called "risotto". It is made of rice. And there are certainly salads
and fruits. Oh, and ice cream...

If you just fancied eating chinese food... well, you are allowed.







 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 9:35 am
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:27 +0800, Gal <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    >flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    >I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    >and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    >pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    >be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/
    >I plan to stay near the train station. Any suggestions?

The Chinese restaurants I've tried in Italy have been truly awful. I
don't remember seeing one near the train station in Florence, anyway.

Italy has some traditional rice dishes. Every restaurant in Florence
should have at least one risotto dish. They usually don't have yeast,
oysters or chocolate in them, either.

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Old Nov 30th 2003, 9:39 am
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:11:57 +0100, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:

    >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <"evgmsop -no spam"@earthlink.net> wrote:
    >> I was under the impression that in Italy pasta is an "entree" (in the
    >> European sense of the term, not the "main course"), so one can easily
    >> order a meal that does not include it. (Unlike Italian restaurants in
    >> America, where most of the main courses involve pasta in some form.)
    >Well, here we think as pasta or rice as a first course, and meat as a
    >second course. You may skip either (a meal with a pasta and a salad
    >would be fine, for example). But, thinking about it, having a meal at a
    >restaurant is somewhat more formal that eating at home, so skipping the
    >pasta completely sounds a little strange.

Sometimes we order an antipasto instead of a first course if we're not
very hungry and are ordering a large second course. However, the
original poster could also probably find a first course that doesn't
involve pasta.

Also, I've seen plenty of people order a second course only in
restaurants.
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I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 10:07 am
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Ken Wheatley
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:27 +0800, Gal <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    >flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.
    >I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast, malt, oyster
    >and chocolate. It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    >pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while. Rice dishes will
    >be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/

So you've eaten bread and pasta in the past, but can't now?

I'm not having a go, here - you may have a real problem. But I'd like
to be sure you haven't been 'sold' these allergies by the quacks that
exist by doing just that.
 
Old Nov 30th 2003, 10:21 am
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Ken Blake
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In news:[email protected],
B Vaughan <[email protected]> typed:
    > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:11:57 +0100, [email protected] (Luca Logi)
wrote:
    >>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <"evgmsop -no spam"@earthlink.net>
wrote:
    >>> I was under the impression that in Italy pasta is an "entree"
(in
    >>> the European sense of the term, not the "main course"), so
one can
    >>> easily order a meal that does not include it. (Unlike
Italian
    >>> restaurants in America, where most of the main courses
involve
    >>> pasta in some form.)
    >>Well, here we think as pasta or rice as a first course, and
meat as a
    >>second course. You may skip either (a meal with a pasta and a
salad
    >>would be fine, for example). But, thinking about it, having a
meal at
    >>a restaurant is somewhat more formal that eating at home, so
skipping
    >>the pasta completely sounds a little strange.
    > Sometimes we order an antipasto instead of a first course if
we're not
    > very hungry and are ordering a large second course. However,
the
    > original poster could also probably find a first course that
doesn't
    > involve pasta.


Besides risotto, another alternative to pasta for a primo is
soup. Although many soups have pasta in them, not all do.

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Old Nov 30th 2003, 10:28 am
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:27 +0800, Gal <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Are there Cheap Chinese eateries near the train stations? Before you
    >flame me for not trying the local fare blah blah..please hear me out.

I read your post before responding. I still think you can find plenty
to eat in French and Italian cuisines, without resorting to mediocre
Chinese food, the kind that is most common in continental Europe.
Sure, there are exceptions, but going to Europe with a list of
dietetic "no-no's" doesn't mean avoiding the local food altogether.

    >I have a medical problem, I'm allergic to baker's yeast

Found in pizza and some pastas, easily avoided, even in Italy.

    > malt

Mainly found in beer, distilled grain spirits, and in some sweets.
Easily avoided. No malt in wine, mineral water, and lots of other
beverages.

    > oyster

Oyster sauce is quite common in some forms of Chinese cooking, and
thus oysters can be rather well "hidden." Oysters are usually
served as a discrete item in Italy and France, and thus easily
avoided.

    >and chocolate.

Easily avoided. Not much call for Mexican-style molé sauce in
Europe. Pretty easy to avoid chocolate mousse and chocolate
ice cream ... and chocolates in general.

    > It's rather sad because I actually like bread and
    >pasta, and I won't be able to eat them for a while.

I routinely avoid bread and pasta. I have no problems dining on
Italian and French cuisine.

    > Rice dishes will
    >be the way to go when I travel this Jan. :-/

Italians make this lovely stuff called "risotto." Rice, some
butter, maybe some peas and ham. In Nice, there's the salad
associated with the town, with tuna, greens, potatoes, and other
things ... but no yeast, malt, oysters, or chocolate.

    >Despite my condition I'm determine to make this trip happen and have a
    >blast.

Please don't let your condition close your mind to enjoying the local
cuisines. Chinese restaurants in Europe are often mediocre; the best
I've found are in the U.K., but I've found good Vietnamese in France.

There are also other cuisines that fit your criteria; I've found
Middle Eastern food, in which rice is also quite common, to be not
too hard to find in Europe. Even a simple French dish like steak
frites with salad won't have any of your no-no's. Greek food would
also probably work for you, as would most seafood restaurants.

And if they put a basket of bread on the table, just don't touch the
stuff, or learn to say "no bread please" in the local languages.
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