bringing beer back from europe
Sep 14th 2006, 9:43 pm
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Re: bringing beer back from europe
Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>luggage??
This might help a bit when you get back.
http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
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Tim C.
>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>luggage??
This might help a bit when you get back.
http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
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Tim C.
Sep 14th 2006, 9:46 pm
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Re: bringing beer back from europe
On 14 Sep 2006 23:35:40 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Billzz wrote:
>---snipped----
>> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized) or
>> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may be
>> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>> quality than flying in an airplane.
>Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>Any European beer can be had anywhere is completely wrong. There are
>thousands of beers, and many can be bought only near the brewery no
>matter how excellent they are.
>I would be most concerned about the quantities involved. As I was
>entering the US with beer in Chicago, I read both the US and Illinois
>policy on importation of alcoholic beverages. The US allows 1 liter
>per person of alcoholic beverages duty free. Of course, you can import
>more and pay duty, which they may or may not want to collect. However,
>If you import slightly more, the state of Illinois requires you to have
>an import license as you are considered importing for business.
>Possibly of interest, www.braugasthoefe.com , which has listings and
>descriptions of small breweries in Germany that offer accomodations and
>food. The one in my wife's village of Ummendorf has excellent beer and
>food, and the dark Placidus Cobaldus beer is my favorite, and I love
>visit the brewery's sales room and see it in 3 liter presentation
>magnums.
>George
I totally agree you can't get all european beers anywhere. Only
someone with little knowledge on the subject would say something like
that.
I have ALWAYS claimed every drop that I have brought back. So far I
haven't been charged for the extras.
Thanks for the link but we will be in The Czech Republic, The
Netherlands and Belgium this year.
>Billzz wrote:
>---snipped----
>> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized) or
>> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may be
>> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>> quality than flying in an airplane.
>Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>Any European beer can be had anywhere is completely wrong. There are
>thousands of beers, and many can be bought only near the brewery no
>matter how excellent they are.
>I would be most concerned about the quantities involved. As I was
>entering the US with beer in Chicago, I read both the US and Illinois
>policy on importation of alcoholic beverages. The US allows 1 liter
>per person of alcoholic beverages duty free. Of course, you can import
>more and pay duty, which they may or may not want to collect. However,
>If you import slightly more, the state of Illinois requires you to have
>an import license as you are considered importing for business.
>Possibly of interest, www.braugasthoefe.com , which has listings and
>descriptions of small breweries in Germany that offer accomodations and
>food. The one in my wife's village of Ummendorf has excellent beer and
>food, and the dark Placidus Cobaldus beer is my favorite, and I love
>visit the brewery's sales room and see it in 3 liter presentation
>magnums.
>George
I totally agree you can't get all european beers anywhere. Only
someone with little knowledge on the subject would say something like
that.
I have ALWAYS claimed every drop that I have brought back. So far I
haven't been charged for the extras.
Thanks for the link but we will be in The Czech Republic, The
Netherlands and Belgium this year.
Sep 14th 2006, 9:47 pm
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Re: bringing beer back from europe
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:43:27 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>luggage??
>This might help a bit when you get back.
>http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
No mention of pallets of Lidl Strong Beer. How did Jeremy get
involved?
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Martin
wrote:
>Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>luggage??
>This might help a bit when you get back.
>http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
No mention of pallets of Lidl Strong Beer. How did Jeremy get
involved?
--
Martin
Sep 14th 2006, 9:59 pm
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Re: bringing beer back from europe
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:43:27 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>luggage??
>This might help a bit when you get back.
>http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
Thanks for the replies one and all. I am aware of the many
import houses selection of beers. None of them stock the beer I like
to bring back because it is not sold in commercial quantities, limit
is 2 cases per person. In the past I would buy 1 case and bring it
back.
Again thanks for the suggestions and info about cargo area
pressurization.
wrote:
>Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>luggage??
>This might help a bit when you get back.
>http://www.bergsman.org/jeremy/beerstuff/importers.html
Thanks for the replies one and all. I am aware of the many
import houses selection of beers. None of them stock the beer I like
to bring back because it is not sold in commercial quantities, limit
is 2 cases per person. In the past I would buy 1 case and bring it
back.
Again thanks for the suggestions and info about cargo area
pressurization.
Sep 14th 2006, 10:04 pm
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:04:23 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:35:32 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>george wrote:
>>> Billzz wrote:
>>> ---snipped----
>>>
>>>>I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>>>>Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>>>>may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized) or
>>>>it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may be
>>>>pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>>>>Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>>>>quality than flying in an airplane.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>>> after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>>But don't they have a special hold for animals?
>economy class?
Martin, the dirty old goat, should know, because he used them when he
was flying!
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:35:32 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>george wrote:
>>> Billzz wrote:
>>> ---snipped----
>>>
>>>>I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>>>>Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>>>>may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized) or
>>>>it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may be
>>>>pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>>>>Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>>>>quality than flying in an airplane.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>>> after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>>But don't they have a special hold for animals?
>economy class?
Martin, the dirty old goat, should know, because he used them when he
was flying!
Sep 14th 2006, 10:05 pm
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:34:59 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:26:02 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:17:27 -0500, itsmine <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>>luggage??
>>It's going to be easier to buy it when you get back home!
>Like buying Black Sheep & Shepherd Neame beer is in NL? I don't think
>so.
I thougt you only drink goat milk!
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:26:02 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:17:27 -0500, itsmine <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>>In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>>carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>>all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>>Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>>luggage??
>>It's going to be easier to buy it when you get back home!
>Like buying Black Sheep & Shepherd Neame beer is in NL? I don't think
>so.
I thougt you only drink goat milk!
Sep 14th 2006, 10:08 pm
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Following up to itsmine <[email protected]> :
> None of them stock the beer I like
>to bring back because it is not sold in commercial quantities
I know the problem. It's quite difficult to get some of these small beers
outside the local area. I've discovered a 1-and-a-half-man brewery about
4km from my house - they only open on the first Saturday of each month to
sell the stuff. A "zwicklbier". Yummy.
--
Tim C.
> None of them stock the beer I like
>to bring back because it is not sold in commercial quantities
I know the problem. It's quite difficult to get some of these small beers
outside the local area. I've discovered a 1-and-a-half-man brewery about
4km from my house - they only open on the first Saturday of each month to
sell the stuff. A "zwicklbier". Yummy.
--
Tim C.
Sep 14th 2006, 10:20 pm
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"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
> luggage??
Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
Atlantic.
How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
house effect ?
news:[email protected]...
> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
> luggage??
Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
Atlantic.
How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
house effect ?
Sep 14th 2006, 10:31 pm
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nightjar wrote:
> "george" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> >
> > Billzz wrote:
> > ---snipped----
> >> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
> >> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
> >> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized)
> >> or
> >> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may
> >> be
> >> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
> >> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
> >> quality than flying in an airplane.
> >
> > Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
> > after all, they do transport live animals in them.
> All cargo holds are pressurized to the same level as the cabin as it is a
> lot easier to build the fuselage as a pressure vessel than it is to build a
> floor that will accept a pressure difference between hold and cabin.
I wonder why they insist that bike tyres (but not, incidentally,
suspension elements) are deflated for transport.
B;
> "george" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] ups.com...
> >
> > Billzz wrote:
> > ---snipped----
> >> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
> >> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
> >> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized)
> >> or
> >> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may
> >> be
> >> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
> >> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
> >> quality than flying in an airplane.
> >
> > Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
> > after all, they do transport live animals in them.
> All cargo holds are pressurized to the same level as the cabin as it is a
> lot easier to build the fuselage as a pressure vessel than it is to build a
> floor that will accept a pressure difference between hold and cabin.
I wonder why they insist that bike tyres (but not, incidentally,
suspension elements) are deflated for transport.
B;
Sep 14th 2006, 10:31 pm
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Following up to "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> :
>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>> luggage??
>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>Atlantic.
>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>house effect ?
Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
bases. Now *that* is a waste.
--
Tim C.
>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>> luggage??
>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>Atlantic.
>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>house effect ?
Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
bases. Now *that* is a waste.
--
Tim C.
Sep 14th 2006, 11:06 pm
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On 15 Sep 2006 03:31:03 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>nightjar wrote:
>> "george" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> >
>> > Billzz wrote:
>> > ---snipped----
>> >> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>> >> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>> >> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized)
>> >> or
>> >> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may
>> >> be
>> >> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>> >> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>> >> quality than flying in an airplane.
>> >
>> > Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>> > after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>> All cargo holds are pressurized to the same level as the cabin as it is a
>> lot easier to build the fuselage as a pressure vessel than it is to build a
>> floor that will accept a pressure difference between hold and cabin.
>I wonder why they insist that bike tyres (but not, incidentally,
>suspension elements) are deflated for transport.
but not aerosols of shaving cream and mosquito spray.
--
Martin
>nightjar wrote:
>> "george" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] ups.com...
>> >
>> > Billzz wrote:
>> > ---snipped----
>> >> I would never do that. We lived in europe and travelled back and forth.
>> >> Never transported beer. The cargo hold may be hot or freezing. The beer
>> >> may freeze or it may pop open (because the hold may not be pressurized)
>> >> or
>> >> it may be hot. The cap is not meant for high altitudes. The cabin may
>> >> be
>> >> pressurized (but only to about 9000 feet - 3000 Metres.) Not worth it.
>> >> Almost any European beer can be had, anywhere, and with better shipping
>> >> quality than flying in an airplane.
>> >
>> > Most cargo holds are pressurized and kept at acceptable temperatures,
>> > after all, they do transport live animals in them.
>> All cargo holds are pressurized to the same level as the cabin as it is a
>> lot easier to build the fuselage as a pressure vessel than it is to build a
>> floor that will accept a pressure difference between hold and cabin.
>I wonder why they insist that bike tyres (but not, incidentally,
>suspension elements) are deflated for transport.
but not aerosols of shaving cream and mosquito spray.
--
Martin
Sep 14th 2006, 11:09 pm
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:31:59 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Following up to "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> :
>>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>> luggage??
>>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>>Atlantic.
>>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>>house effect ?
>Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
>bases. Now *that* is a waste.
Not to mention those who ship UK toilet rolls & white cut bread to
expats all over Europe.
--
Martin
wrote:
>Following up to "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> :
>>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>> luggage??
>>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>>Atlantic.
>>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>>house effect ?
>Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
>bases. Now *that* is a waste.
Not to mention those who ship UK toilet rolls & white cut bread to
expats all over Europe.
--
Martin
Sep 15th 2006, 1:40 am
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:09:36 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:31:59 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Following up to "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> :
>>>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>>> luggage??
>>>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>>>Atlantic.
>>>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>>>house effect ?
>>Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
>>bases. Now *that* is a waste.
>Not to mention those who ship UK toilet rolls & white cut bread to
>expats all over Europe.
And not to mention the no-topic and stupid postings of Martin in this
NG! THAT IS A WASTE!
>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:31:59 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Following up to "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> :
>>>"itsmine" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
>>>> carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
>>>> all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
>>>> Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
>>>> luggage??
>>>Sounds odd to waste a lot of airplane fuel just to bring beer over the
>>>Atlantic.
>>>How many New Orleans have to be destroyed until people realize the green
>>>house effect ?
>>Tell that to the US military who ship fresh milk from the US to their
>>bases. Now *that* is a waste.
>Not to mention those who ship UK toilet rolls & white cut bread to
>expats all over Europe.
And not to mention the no-topic and stupid postings of Martin in this
NG! THAT IS A WASTE!
Sep 15th 2006, 1:51 am
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:17:27 -0500, itsmine <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> >carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
> >all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
> >
> >Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
> >luggage??
> It's going to be easier to buy it when you get back home!
Except for the odd bit of exotic plonk or a special gift, I don't see the
point of dragging booze from across the sea. In the US one can find most
any sort of booze at very competitive prices...
--
Best
Greg
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:17:27 -0500, itsmine <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> >carry on. This year don't think I don't think I can do it because of
> >all the new rules. It will have to go in my checked luggage.
> >
> >Any ideas how to make it tolerate/survive the trip back in checked
> >luggage??
> It's going to be easier to buy it when you get back home!
Except for the odd bit of exotic plonk or a special gift, I don't see the
point of dragging booze from across the sea. In the US one can find most
any sort of booze at very competitive prices...
--
Best
Greg
Sep 15th 2006, 1:53 am
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itsmine wrote:
> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> carry on.
Heineken or St. Pauli Girl...???
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Greg
> In the past I have brought back as much as 30 bottles of beer in my
> carry on.
Heineken or St. Pauli Girl...???
--
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Greg
