barney

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[email protected] (GM) wrote:

    > That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    > from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    > the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    >
    > Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

After years of carrying a camera and rarely if ever using it, I've given
up, though I sometimes buy a disposable if I'm going somewhere unlikely to
be pictured in postcards and books. But then, I hardly ever take pictures
at home, either. And I buy lots and lots of books and postcards both at
home and abroad.

So I guess the big questions are: Do you like taking photos? Are you
already in the habit of taking them at family events, on days out, etc.?
If not, I'd venture to suggest that travelling won't change your habits,
and a camera will be just something else to carry and lose. But if you are
already an active photographer, it will probably enhance the interest of
your trip.

Erilar

In article ,
[email protected] (GM) wrote:

    > That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    > from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    > the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    >
    > Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this

I travel with a backpack most people consider a book bag. I never leave
my camera behind, but it's smaller and lighter than the SLR and telefoto
lens I carried when I was a couple decades or so younger. The camera
freezes the memories for the future. Leave behind a pair of jeans.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)


Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

Miguel Cruz

Barney wrote:
    > [email protected] (GM) wrote:
    >> That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    >> from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    >> the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    >>
    >> Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
    > So I guess the big questions are: Do you like taking photos? Are you
    > already in the habit of taking them at family events, on days out, etc.?
    > If not, I'd venture to suggest that travelling won't change your habits,
    > and a camera will be just something else to carry and lose. But if you are
    > already an active photographer, it will probably enhance the interest of
    > your trip.

That really says it. If you like taking pictures, bring a camera. Otherwise,
don't.

miguel
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Latest photos: Maldives, Dubai and Vietnam

Mason Barge

On 25 May 2003 15:45:10 -0700, [email protected] (GM) wrote:

    >That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    >from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    >the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    >Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Yes, absolutely, positively. Get an itty bitty digital cameral, carry a small
battery recharger, and figure out how to upload you photos to a website from a
netcafe if you don't want to pay for a lot of storage cards.
--
"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln

Marc

"GM" wrote in message
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    > That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    > from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    > the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    > Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

When I was 17 I hitchhiked around Europe for the summer and did not take a
camera. I have never regretted that.
However, I am now 55 and on my last few trips to Europe and Central America
I have taken many photos and have bought two cameras during the last 10
years just for that purpose and was gifted a third.. I really enjoy the
photography which has become a hobby as a result of that enjoyment.

Today it is hardly a burden. You can buy decent quality digital cameras
that will fit comfortably in your pocket for very reasonable prices. I
assume you are mainly interested in memories and keepsakes. So you will
not be after the "artistic" shots I go for. That means you can get a
cheaper camera. The biggest challenge will be carrying enough memory. I
usually shoot in high density A4 format. I use up about 4MB (about 250
images) in two weeks and that much memory will cost about $50 per week. If
you do select a cheaper camera you will get more images on the same amount
of memory. You will probably shoot a lot less based on your comments.

You can see some of my travel photos at this web site
http://www.pbase.com/marc4ucb. Please leave a comment.
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"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." Samuel Johnson
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other
countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

Marc

Void

On Mon, 26 May 2003 15:23:06 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:
    >Camera's can be a burden on other travellers if you insist on having posed
    >photos taken at every opportunity. I hate it when you are having a great
    >evening and someone insists on taking photos of everyone gathered round as
    >if to authenticate that it actually occured. Completely ruins the
    >atmosphere.

I don't think that someone who wants to take a picture of everyone is trying
to "authenticate" anything. They just want to remember the people that they
met on vacation.

Mxsmanic

void writes:

    > I don't think that someone who wants to take a
    > picture of everyone is trying to "authenticate"
    > anything. They just want to remember the people
    > that they met on vacation.

Unless they are Japanese.


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Adrian Rothery

"void" wrote in message
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    > I don't think that someone who wants to take a picture of everyone is
trying
    > to "authenticate" anything. They just want to remember the people that
they
    > met on vacation.

That's the reason we take group photos, to remember the occasion.
If people want proof of us being in all these places they can view our
framed travel tickets ;-)

Adrian.

Deep Floyd Mars

void wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 26 May 2003 15:23:06 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
    > wrote:
    > >Camera's can be a burden on other travellers if you insist on having
posed
    > >photos taken at every opportunity. I hate it when you are having a great
    > >evening and someone insists on taking photos of everyone gathered round
as
    > >if to authenticate that it actually occured. Completely ruins the
    > >atmosphere.
    > I don't think that someone who wants to take a picture of everyone is
trying
    > to "authenticate" anything. They just want to remember the people that
they
    > met on vacation.

That's where your memory comes in handy. ;o)

Seriously, don't you find it irritating when someone stops the entire
evening to get everyone together for a posed photo? Or when someone goes to
take a shot and messes around for ages while the subjects try to hold forced
smiles?
---
DFM

Mark Fagan

Why carry all that, when he's backpacking? I suggest buying disposable
cameras and mailing them home, or getting the negatives only developed in
Europe. 1 Hour photo stores are common, at least in large cities. This
avoids excess weight and the quality is more than adequate for snaps to stir
your memory. Not having a camera means always regretting missing that once
in a lifetime event, not having an image of friends you make a long the way,
etc.

"Mason Barge" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On 25 May 2003 15:45:10 -0700, [email protected] (GM) wrote:
    > >That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    > >from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    > >the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    > >
    > >Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
    > Yes, absolutely, positively. Get an itty bitty digital cameral, carry a
small
    > battery recharger, and figure out how to upload you photos to a website
from a
    > netcafe if you don't want to pay for a lot of storage cards.
    > --
    > "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please
bring me some coffee."
    > - Abraham Lincoln

Carole Allen

Geez, digitals and chargers, downloading at an internet cafe.......get
a simple point and shoot with a flash and a zoom lens on it...I have
fabulous photos from my little Konika point and shoot; it has little
butonson the back for night photos, flash suppression, and distance
focusing. fits in a pocket....my sister took it to Israel about 5
years ago and loved it...for our trip to Greece and Croatia she
brought an SLR with several lenses, a telephoto, etc.,, in a big carry
case. Every shot was like setting up for National Geographic...my
pics are as good as hers and my 8 year old camera cost 1/3 as much.
I have some of my shots blown up to poster size with no graininess.
..use good quality film and a reliable developer...I'm no pro...I
just shoot like mad and get some good results, and a few fabulous
ones..I like to shoot local people in particular..the little gypsy boy
with his violin on the street corner, a girl in a playgorund, an old
lady hurrying home from market with her bags of onions and potatoes,
etc.

On Tue, 27 May 2003 23:50:53 -0400, "Mark Fagan"
wrote:

    >Why carry all that, when he's backpacking? I suggest buying disposable
    >cameras and mailing them home, or getting the negatives only developed in
    >Europe. 1 Hour photo stores are common, at least in large cities. This
    >avoids excess weight and the quality is more than adequate for snaps to stir
    >your memory. Not having a camera means always regretting missing that once
    >in a lifetime event, not having an image of friends you make a long the way,
    >etc.
    >"Mason Barge" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On 25 May 2003 15:45:10 -0700, [email protected] (GM) wrote:
    >> >That is the question. If I don't take it, I might be sorry many years
    >> >from now. However, I'm concerned that it will hamper my enjoyment of
    >> >the trip (hostel/backpacking thing).
    >> >
    >> >Is it a worthwhile burden? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
    >> Yes, absolutely, positively. Get an itty bitty digital cameral, carry a
    >small
    >> battery recharger, and figure out how to upload you photos to a website
    >from a
    >> netcafe if you don't want to pay for a lot of storage cards.
    >> --
    >> "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please
    >bring me some coffee."
    >> - Abraham Lincoln

Evelynvogtgamble

Mxsmanic wrote:
    >
    > void writes:
    >
    > > I don't think that someone who wants to take a
    > > picture of everyone is trying to "authenticate"
    > > anything. They just want to remember the people
    > > that they met on vacation.
    >
    > Unless they are Japanese.

Well, there are plenty of American tourists who want pictures of
themselves in front of anything they think camera-worthy. (Personally,
since I no longer need publicity photos, I'm perfectly happy to
photograph the scenery, I don't need photos of me to prove to others
that I was really there.)

    >
    > --
    > Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Evelynvogtgamble

Deep Floyd Mars wrote:
    >
    >
    > Seriously, don't you find it irritating when someone stops the entire
    > evening to get everyone together for a posed photo? Or when someone goes to
    > take a shot and messes around for ages while the subjects try to hold forced
    > smiles?

In a word? YES!!!

Miguel Cruz

Mark Fagan wrote:
    > Mason Barge wrote:
    >> Yes, absolutely, positively. Get an itty bitty digital cameral, carry a
    >> small battery recharger, and figure out how to upload you photos to a
    >> website from a netcafe if you don't want to pay for a lot of storage
    >> cards.
    > Why carry all that, when he's backpacking? I suggest buying disposable
    > cameras and mailing them home, or getting the negatives only developed in
    > Europe. 1 Hour photo stores are common, at least in large cities. This
    > avoids excess weight and the quality is more than adequate for snaps to stir
    > your memory. Not having a camera means always regretting missing that once
    > in a lifetime event, not having an image of friends you make a long the way,
    > etc.

Disposables are wasteful and nowhere near as flexible as a digital. It's
nothing to carry - with mine, anyway, both the camera and charger fit in
normal pants pockets.

Additionally, you can email photos to people back home and easily make
prints for people you meet along the way.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Maldives, Dubai and Vietnam

Mxsmanic

Miguel Cruz writes:

    > Disposables are wasteful and nowhere near as
    > flexible as a digital.

They cost only a few dollars, and you don't need flexibility unless
you're a photographer.

There is nothing particularly flexible about a digital camera.
Flexibility is a function of the body design, not the type of image
capture.

    > It's nothing to carry - with mine, anyway, both
    > the camera and charger fit in normal pants pockets.

With a disposable camera, there's no charger to carry--and you don't
have to search for electrical outlets.

    > Additionally, you can email photos to people back
    > home and easily make prints for people you meet
    > along the way.

You don't e-mail photos anywhere without an Internet connection.

Not everyone spends his vacation in Silicon Valley.


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