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best value country for renting a flat?

Old Jul 23rd 2006, 9:44 am
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Martin
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:38:08 +0100, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate) wrote:

    >David Johnstone <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> > > > ...fantastic medical service...
    >> > >
    >> > > Is he privately insured then?
    >> > > Or with the military or something?
    >> > > Otherwise there's no free NHS or suchlike.
    >> >
    >> > Of course there is. What makes you think otherwise?
    >>
    >> There is no health insurance to which everbody belongs by virtue
    >> of living in the country as thers is e.g. in the UK and in Italy.
    >>
    >> All health insurance in Germany, whether state or private,
    >> is based on paying contributions.
    >>
    >> So it is possible to have no insurance.
    >There are reciprocal agreements.

In which you get exactly the same as the local health scheme no more
no less.
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Old Jul 23rd 2006, 9:47 am
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David Johnstone
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate wrote:
    > There are reciprocal agreements.

True, that would probably cover the OP for a month or two, but the
reciprocal agreements are intended for tourists and not for people
who have permanent residence in a foreign country. Of course you
can take out special private insurance in the UK for
expats that covers you in your country of residence.

I'm really just interested what insurance Tom's dad in Bamberg has,
since not that many people rave about the state health system in
Germany, and it's not cheap either.

David
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006, 9:55 am
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On 23 Jul 2006 14:47:17 -0700, "David Johnstone" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    >deansgate wrote:
    >> There are reciprocal agreements.
    >True, that would probably cover the OP for a month or two, but the
    >reciprocal agreements are intended for tourists and not for people
    >who have permanent residence in a foreign country. Of course you
    >can take out special private insurance in the UK for
    >expats that covers you in your country of residence.

At least two of us, both British Expats in NL without Dutch insurance
cover have received letters from DSS in Newcastle offering us a
British EHIC.
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Martin
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006, 7:27 pm
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Martin wrote:
    > At least two of us, both British Expats in NL without Dutch insurance
    > cover have received letters from DSS in Newcastle offering us a
    > British EHIC.

Interesting. What is an EHIC? Does that entitle you to unlimited
(free?) medical treatment in the Netherlands?
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006, 7:35 pm
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Martin wrote:
    > At least two of us, both British Expats in NL without Dutch insurance
    > cover have received letters from DSS in Newcastle offering us a
    > British EHIC.

Right, here we go:-
http://europa.eu.int/rapid/start/cgi...on.getfile=gf&
doc=MEMO/04/75%7C0%7CRAPID&lg=EN&type=PDF
(paste link together).

It states clearly here that the EHIC is only for tourists and temporary
visits to another member country, not for permanent residents.

David
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006, 8:46 pm
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Delirium Tremens wrote:
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    > whats wrong with Scotland ?

That was my first reaction in reading the OP, except he mentions a
foreign country, I don't know if he would consider Scotland foreign.
Years ago we rented the ground floor of a large house in Lerwick,
Shetland Islands for a little over US$100/week. I'm sure a longer term
rental in the off season would be even much cheaper, and also such a
large apartment would not be needed. And of course the public library
is available for reading material.

George
 
Old Jul 23rd 2006, 8:53 pm
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george wrote:
    > Delirium Tremens wrote:
    > ---snipped-----
    > >
    > > whats wrong with Scotland ?
    > That was my first reaction in reading the OP, except he mentions a
    > foreign country, I don't know if he would consider Scotland foreign.
    > Years ago we rented the ground floor of a large house in Lerwick,
    > Shetland Islands for a little over US$100/week. I'm sure a longer term
    > rental in the off season would be even much cheaper, and also such a
    > large apartment would not be needed. And of course the public library
    > is available for reading material.
    > George

their population is also declining, perhaps he can get a grant
 
Old Jul 24th 2006, 1:04 am
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On 24 Jul 2006 00:27:54 -0700, "David Johnstone" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> At least two of us, both British Expats in NL without Dutch insurance
    >> cover have received letters from DSS in Newcastle offering us a
    >> British EHIC.
    >Interesting. What is an EHIC? Does that entitle you to unlimited
    >(free?) medical treatment in the Netherlands?

No only whatever the Dutch are entitled to. EHIC is the thing replaced
E111.
We are both well insured by our former employer.
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Old Jul 24th 2006, 1:07 am
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On 24 Jul 2006 00:35:24 -0700, "David Johnstone" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> At least two of us, both British Expats in NL without Dutch insurance
    >> cover have received letters from DSS in Newcastle offering us a
    >> British EHIC.
    >Right, here we go:-
    >http://europa.eu.int/rapid/start/cgi...on.getfile=gf&
    >doc=MEMO/04/75%7C0%7CRAPID&lg=EN&type=PDF
    >(paste link together).
    >It states clearly here that the EHIC is only for tourists and temporary
    >visits to another member country, not for permanent residents.

I know that. How can the Dutch know if we are temporary or not? I
assume it can be used in EU countries where I am not a permanent
resident, like UK for example.
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Old Jul 24th 2006, 1:43 am
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David Johnstone
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    > >It states clearly here that the EHIC is only for tourists and temporary
    > >visits to another member country, not for permanent residents.
    > I know that. How can the Dutch know if we are temporary or not?

Does Holland not have compulsory registration for residents?

I imagine for casual treatment it'd be no problem short-term;
if you had a serious or chronic illness, or an accident requiring
hospitalisation, it may be more difficult.

    > I assume it can be used in EU countries where I am not a permanent
    > resident, like UK for example.

Well in the UK you don't really need it, since everyone is covered by
the NHS anyway. But I assume your claim to a British EHIC is based
on your being a permanent resident there who is briefly abroad.
Otherwise I could e.g. get one myself and live in Germany and not
pay the (massive) contributions to state medical insurance, but get
free treatment based on my UK EHIC. That would clearly be an
abuse of the system.
 

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