MoonLaker

Thanks every one for reponding to my previoys post.

Looking for some recommendation to visit couple of Tuscan villages
reachable from Rome, preferrably by public transport.

Tile

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    > Thanks every one for reponding to my previoys post.
    > Looking for some recommendation to visit couple of Tuscan villages
    > reachable from Rome, preferrably by public transport.

it is not a village
it is not in Tuscany
but a very nice old town and near Rome
Orvieto.

there are hundreds of towns worth a visit between Rome and Florence. not to
mention Perugia / Assisi/ Gubbio/
that are in Umbria

L'Aquila ( a very nice old town unknown to most people and not very far
from Rome )

servadio

MoonLaker wrote:
    > Thanks every one for reponding to my previoys post.
    > Looking for some recommendation to visit couple of Tuscan villages
    > reachable from Rome, preferrably by public transport.

I reiterate: the list is too long.
Get yourself a Travel Book, browse through it with the help of a good
map (like TCI 1/200000); then, only then, get back and ask for hints
and tips.

Sergio
Pisa

B Vaughan

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:31:58 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >L'Aquila ( a very nice old town unknown to most people and not very far
    >from Rome )

Actually, there are lots of very small towns in the province of
L'Aquila (Abruzzo) that are reachable by bus from Rome. It's a bit
hard to find the bus schedules, though. Abruzzo is very little visited
by foreign tourists. It's a beautiful region, and in December may
offer your best chance in central Italy of seeing some snow. A good
part of the region is in a national park.

I should also put in a plug for Urbino as a winter destination. You
would have to get to Pesaro by train, and then by bus to Urbino. It
would take a good part of a day, so you should probably plan on
spending two nights. However, you shouldn't expect to see "rural life"
either in L'Aquila nor Urbino. On the other hand, in the smaller
towns of Abruzzo, you will see rural life right up to the borders of
the towns.

From the 22nd of December to the 7th of January, there is one bus a
day that leaves Rome at 8 AM and arrives in the national park area of
Abruzzo about three hours later. There is also a bus that leaves the
area in the late afternoon and arrives back in Rome at 7:15 PM. This
bus, I imagine, runs mainly for the benefit of winter tourism and so
that people working or studying in Rome can get home to visit their
relatives for the holidays. The same bus also runs in the summer
months. Maybe someone else can inform us as to what these towns are
like in the winter. If you arrive one morning and leave the following
afternoon, you will have time to see everything there is to see in the
town.

We spent a week in the park town of Pescasseroli one summer and
enjoyed it very much. It's a small town with a rural aspect, but with
restaurants and services for tourists. You might want to spend two
nights there and take a hike or maybe some toboggan rides or the like
if there's snow. The guest houses there are very good at organizing
activities. Other nice towns in the area are Opi and Alfadena. I see
that the bus doesn't go directly into the town of Opi, though.

Here is the schedule of that bus:
http://www.opionline.it/orariobus.html

You can see that only one column has a bus that starts or ends in
Rome.

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Barbara Vaughan
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Martin

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:38:49 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:31:58 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>L'Aquila ( a very nice old town unknown to most people and not very far
    >>from Rome )
    >Actually, there are lots of very small towns in the province of
    >L'Aquila (Abruzzo) that are reachable by bus from Rome. It's a bit
    >hard to find the bus schedules, though. Abruzzo is very little visited
    >by foreign tourists. It's a beautiful region, and in December may
    >offer your best chance in central Italy of seeing some snow. A good
    >part of the region is in a national park.

Edward Lear lived for sometime in a mountain village in the area. I
can't remember which, although I had a colleague who came from the
village and was very proud of the fact that Edward Lear had lived
there.
http://www.cadoganguides.com/guide.a...=89&Dest=Italy
--

Martin

B Vaughan

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:56:33 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:38:49 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:31:58 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>L'Aquila ( a very nice old town unknown to most people and not very far
    >>>from Rome )
    >>Actually, there are lots of very small towns in the province of
    >>L'Aquila (Abruzzo) that are reachable by bus from Rome. It's a bit
    >>hard to find the bus schedules, though. Abruzzo is very little visited
    >>by foreign tourists. It's a beautiful region, and in December may
    >>offer your best chance in central Italy of seeing some snow. A good
    >>part of the region is in a national park.
    >Edward Lear lived for sometime in a mountain village in the area. I
    >can't remember which, although I had a colleague who came from the
    >village and was very proud of the fact that Edward Lear had lived
    >there.
    >http://www.cadoganguides.com/guide.a...=89&Dest=Italy

Really, more people should go to Abruzzo and let overcrowded Tuscany
recover a little. However, then when they get back home and their
friends ask where they went, "Pescasseroli" doesn't create the same
impression as "San Gimignano".
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Frank F. Matthews

B Vaughan wrote:

    > On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:56:33 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:38:49 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:31:58 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>L'Aquila ( a very nice old town unknown to most people and not very far
    >>>>from Rome )
    >>>Actually, there are lots of very small towns in the province of
    >>>L'Aquila (Abruzzo) that are reachable by bus from Rome. It's a bit
    >>>hard to find the bus schedules, though. Abruzzo is very little visited
    >>>by foreign tourists. It's a beautiful region, and in December may
    >>>offer your best chance in central Italy of seeing some snow. A good
    >>>part of the region is in a national park.
    >>Edward Lear lived for sometime in a mountain village in the area. I
    >>can't remember which, although I had a colleague who came from the
    >>village and was very proud of the fact that Edward Lear had lived
    >>there.
    >>http://www.cadoganguides.com/guide.a...=89&Dest=Italy
    >
    >
    > Really, more people should go to Abruzzo and let overcrowded Tuscany
    > recover a little. However, then when they get back home and their
    > friends ask where they went, "Pescasseroli" doesn't create the same
    > impression as "San Gimignano".

Yes but "I found this wonderful hill town away from the hordes." does
make a great image. You were right and folks can make it work.

Giovanni Drogo

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, tile wrote:

    > > Looking for some recommendation to visit couple of Tuscan villages
    > > reachable from Rome, preferrably by public transport.
    >
    > it is not a village
    > it is not in Tuscany
    > but a very nice old town and near Rome
    > Orvieto.

I agree on this suggestion (although I never managed to go there, it's
on the old main rail line, but now high speed trains do not stop there,
and when I wanted to go there with a change in Orte, for some reason
there was a service disruption and we continued straight to Siena).

I also agree with Barbara Vaughan that "village" and "public transport"
do not go very well together. However I guess what you may mean by
"village" is something bigger than we'd call "villaggio" down here.

Take note that the northern part of Lazio is called "Tuscia", which is
not by chance alike to "Tuscany", in fact both from language and history
they are quite alike, from e_T_r_USCAN times onwards.

Viterbo (reachable from Rome by train) medieval centre is very well
preserved and completely alike a town in Tuscany or Umbria.

The town of Tuscania (note the name) is also in norther Lazio and worth
a visit for its two beautiful romanesque churches. Also the centre is
pleasant. I do not know of a train but I guess plenty of buses.

An interesting place, more akin to a "village" or sort of phantom town
should be Civita di Bagnoregio, east of Bolsena, north of Viterbo, south
of Orvieto. I do not know about public transport, but I guess there
should be some buses to Bagnoregio. Civita is the oldest part, connected
to Bagnoregio via a pedestrian bridge. For lack of time we only saw it
from afar, from a viewpoint in Bagnoregio (which we reached by coach by
special permission of the major, being on a TCI excursion). But probably
you can do as a day trip from Rome allowing for some dead times. Or
maybe combine with a visit to Bolsena.

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B Vaughan

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:35:17 +0200, Giovanni Drogo
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >An interesting place, more akin to a "village" or sort of phantom town
    >should be Civita di Bagnoregio, east of Bolsena, north of Viterbo, south
    >of Orvieto. I do not know about public transport, but I guess there
    >should be some buses to Bagnoregio. Civita is the oldest part, connected
    >to Bagnoregio via a pedestrian bridge. For lack of time we only saw it
    >from afar, from a viewpoint in Bagnoregio (which we reached by coach by
    >special permission of the major, being on a TCI excursion). But probably
    >you can do as a day trip from Rome allowing for some dead times. Or
    >maybe combine with a visit to Bolsena.

Civita di Bagnoregio is interesting, but very overrun with tourists.
Very few inhabitants, but many shops and restaurants. It's billed as
the "town that's dying", because it is cut off from modern roads, and
the cliff on which it's built is supposedly crumbling into the valley.
At one time, there was a very narrow road with a pedestrian bridge
that you had to negotiate to reach the town. The old bridge has now
been replaced with a wide, asphalted bridge with huge light poles.

My husband commented that it was a lot more developed than the last
time he saw it. I replied that they obviously had found the death bed
to be profitable.
--
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My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Tile

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    > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:35:17 +0200, Giovanni Drogo
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>An interesting place, more akin to a "village" or sort of phantom town
    >>should be Civita di Bagnoregio, east of Bolsena, north of Viterbo, south
    >>of Orvieto. I do not know about public transport, but I guess there
    >>should be some buses to Bagnoregio. Civita is the oldest part, connected
    >>to Bagnoregio via a pedestrian bridge. For lack of time we only saw it
    >>from afar, from a viewpoint in Bagnoregio (which we reached by coach by
    >>special permission of the major, being on a TCI excursion). But probably
    >>you can do as a day trip from Rome allowing for some dead times. Or
    >>maybe combine with a visit to Bolsena.
    > Civita di Bagnoregio is interesting, but very overrun with tourists.
    > Very few inhabitants, but many shops and restaurants. It's billed as
    > the "town that's dying", because it is cut off from modern roads, and
    > the cliff on which it's built is supposedly crumbling into the valley.
    > At one time, there was a very narrow road with a pedestrian bridge
    > that you had to negotiate to reach the town. The old bridge has now
    > been replaced with a wide, asphalted bridge with huge light poles.
    > My husband commented that it was a lot more developed than the last
    > time he saw it. I replied that they obviously had found the death bed
    > to be profitable.
    > --
    > Barbara Vaughan
    > My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot
    > it
    > I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

yes

there is a pedestrian bridge, with two small car parks at the beginning

you have to pay a parking card available in the small shops around.
still. there are just a few palces. no more than 20 cars can find a place
there

but the small town itself in not very much. you can visit it ina couple of
hours.. if you can call it town..