Ulf Kutzner

Pete schrieb:

    > That Ibis has rates starting at 110 Euros, which is the same rate you
    > can find elsewhere in Amsterdam. Ibis hotels in Munich, Vienna, Berlin,
    > and other cities have rates around 70 Euros, as they are cheaper cities
    > to visit. Amsterdam is an expensive city to visit, period.
    >
    > Now if you would have mentioned Munich, you might have had a point.
    > The Ibis hotel is a short walk from the train station and only costs 70
    > Euros for a room with a double bed.

Sure. I get Kurpfalz at 49 EUR with breakfast or Mercure City at 65 EUR,
also with breakfast.

Regards, ULF

-> rte

Markku Gr?nroos

Bjorn Olsson kirjoitti:

    >>The hotel, the world's biggest when it was built in the late 1960s,
    >>has been reviled for decades both for its ugliness and its resident
    >>cockroaches.
    >>
    >Excaggarations. Stayed there twice, didn't see any cockroaches. Yes,
    >it's a plain boring concrete building, but it's no uglier than your
    >average Hilton.
    >
The hotel was closed for public for a long time when bug busters went
after vermin.

nitram

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:47:48 +0300, Markku Grönroos
<[email protected]> wrote:


    >The hotel was closed for public for a long time when bug busters went
    >after vermin.

and operating electronic surveyance equipment? :-)

Jesper Lauridsen

On 2004-08-11, Pete <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I don't know about the others, but it's not difficult to find reasonably
    >> priced hotels in the center of Vienna.
    > I guess that depends on your definition of reasonably priced.

Single rooms with breakfast and en suite bathroom, in the 60 euro range.

Delphine

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:53:57 +0200, Ulf Kutzner
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] schrieb:
    >>
    >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:42:30 +0200, Ulf Kutzner
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > For tonight, I have been offered Dinaoda, *** at 73,28 EUR single room
    >> > and hotel President, 130,27 single room, with breakfast included. Both
    >> > are nor central nor too far away. Dinaoda offers twin room for the same
    >> > money.
    >>
    >> Wher's the Dinaoda ?
    >Near VDNKh.
    >http://www.visitmoscow.com/new_page_13.htm

Thanks, I didn't know!

    >> Sure, but most tourists prefer the center!
    >Okay but if you want to stay there for a week you must agree to spend a
    >lot of money.


Sure, and that IS the problem. In a few cities at least in Europe,
there are correct hotels in the center for cheap. I know a lot in
Paris and Madrid, Roma and Amsterdam for example.

In Moscow, the choice is to spend $300 and more by night and be in the
center, OR $60/$80 and be far away. And that is bad, as a lot of
tourists are a bit (!) afraid of moving by metro or "taxi", in Moscow.

(IMO that's stupid, but...)


    >> Just read that the Misnk will be renovated too, in October!
    >faz.de wrote today there is no more hotel Minsk in Moscow. True?
    ><http://www.moskauer-deutsche-zeitung.ru/Leben_in_Moskau/2003/06/19/11.33.17.htm>
    >says they will tear it down in autumn in order to replace it.

I saw it opened 2 weeks ago, but today I dono ! Anyway according to
the Mayor, it won't be demolished, but renovated - completely. That's
a good thing as it's one of the worse hotels in Moscow, in the best
location!


    >> Oh, if you're a real tourist (LOL), don't avoid the YAR review on
    >> Leningradski Prospekt :)
    >What is this?

It's in Sovietsky hotel at the beginning of Leningradsky Pr., and..

Ho have a look here:

http://www.sovietsky.ru/

http://www.sovietsky.ru/ru/yar_interior
http://www.sovietsky.ru/ru/yar_show

etc!

A great place, even for Russians to celebrate !

Pete

    > >> I don't know about the others, but it's not difficult to find
reasonably
    > >> priced hotels in the center of Vienna.
    > >
    > > I guess that depends on your definition of reasonably priced.
    > Single rooms with breakfast and en suite bathroom, in the 60 euro range.

Name some, please.


Pete

Pete

    > In Moscow, the choice is to spend $300 and more by night and be in
    > the center, OR $60/$80 and be far away. And that is bad, as a lot of
    > tourists are a bit (!) afraid of moving by metro or "taxi", in Moscow.
    > (IMO that's stupid, but...)

That is only 50% stupid. Taxi drivers in Moscow will try to squeeze
lots of money out of passengers, so avoiding taxis is not stupid. But
the metro is convenient, fast, and cheap. If someone can figure out
how to ride the Paris, London, Munich, or other large city metro,
they can figure out how to ride the Moscow metro.


Pete

Jesper Lauridsen

On 2004-08-14, Pete <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >> I don't know about the others, but it's not difficult to find
    > reasonably
    >> >> priced hotels in the center of Vienna.
    >> >
    >> > I guess that depends on your definition of reasonably priced.
    >> Single rooms with breakfast and en suite bathroom, in the 60 euro range.
    > Name some, please.

hrs.de

Deep Flawed Muslim

[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > The problem will be that there's *no* cheap hotel in the center of
    > Moscow now, unless maybe the Minsk, on Tverskaya, that is really
    > uggly, dirty, more than Soviet :)

What about Tsentralnaya? Singles for US$20, doubles for US$35. It's
got authentic Russian customer service, where the bitch at the front
desk wouldn't sell you a smile, but the hookers that hang around there
will, plus more. Heck, what's a trip to Moscow without a bit of sleaze
and grime?

I was going check in for my honeymoon, but it was too expensive, and
decided to stay in the bomb shelter for a very reasonable US$10 a
night p-p.

http://www.cheap-moscow.com/basement.htm

Perhaps we have differing ideas of 'cheap'...
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DFM