Avoid a car for a day trip too London
Oct 10th 2006, 9:47 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
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>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
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Martin
Oct 10th 2006, 9:53 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
> >> >>
> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
> >> >> and more hassle.
> >> >
> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
> >> middle of the night arrival home.
> >>
> >
> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>
> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
> participate.
>
> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
> with whoever isn't.
>
> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
Boy- we work in completely different fields.
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
> >> >>
> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
> >> >> and more hassle.
> >> >
> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
> >> middle of the night arrival home.
> >>
> >
> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>
> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
> participate.
>
> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
> with whoever isn't.
>
> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
Boy- we work in completely different fields.
--
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Oct 10th 2006, 7:55 pm
#33
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
>> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
>> >> >> and more hassle.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
>> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
>> >> middle of the night arrival home.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>>
>> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
>> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
>> participate.
>>
>> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>> with whoever isn't.
>>
>> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>Boy- we work in completely different fields.
DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
meetings :-)
--
Martin
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
>> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
>> >> >> and more hassle.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
>> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
>> >> middle of the night arrival home.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>>
>> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
>> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
>> participate.
>>
>> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>> with whoever isn't.
>>
>> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>Boy- we work in completely different fields.
DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
meetings :-)
--
Martin
Oct 10th 2006, 8:16 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>
> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
[]
> >> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
> >> with whoever isn't.
> >>
> >> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
> >
> >Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>
> DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>
> Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
> meetings :-)
Hey- that's a point!
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>
> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
[]
> >> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
> >> with whoever isn't.
> >>
> >> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
> >
> >Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>
> DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>
> Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
> meetings :-)
Hey- that's a point!
--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
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Oct 10th 2006, 8:31 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:16:49 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>
>> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>[]
>> >> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>> >> with whoever isn't.
>> >>
>> >> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>> >
>> >Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>>
>> DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>>
>> Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>> meetings :-)
>Hey- that's a point!
I noticed that in meetings where some wore suits and others didn't
that in most cases the suitless made the decisions and the suited
waffled. Being able to identify the suited requires at least one ftf
meeting. Once switched to teleconferencing most of the suited didn't
participate. IME ftf meetings that had 20 plus participants had only
around 6 participants, when the same meetings were replaced by
teleconferences. In large meetings a minority are specialist in the
subject being discussed, the rest get bored and try to go off topic so
that they can engage waffle mode.
Student of meeting strategy for 30 years.
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Martin
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
>> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>
>> >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>[]
>> >> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>> >> with whoever isn't.
>> >>
>> >> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>> >
>> >Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>>
>> DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>>
>> Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>> meetings :-)
>Hey- that's a point!
I noticed that in meetings where some wore suits and others didn't
that in most cases the suitless made the decisions and the suited
waffled. Being able to identify the suited requires at least one ftf
meeting. Once switched to teleconferencing most of the suited didn't
participate. IME ftf meetings that had 20 plus participants had only
around 6 participants, when the same meetings were replaced by
teleconferences. In large meetings a minority are specialist in the
subject being discussed, the rest get bored and try to go off topic so
that they can engage waffle mode.
Student of meeting strategy for 30 years.
--
Martin
Oct 10th 2006, 9:32 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:58:30 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> >deansgate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:1hmzqcg.1vlcwx1wijzqnN%this_address_is_for_s [email protected]...
> >> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > >news:[email protected]...
> >> > >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
> >> > >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
> >of
> >> > >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >what's your point Jim?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many
> >even
> >> > >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more
> >money
> >> > >> >> and more hassle.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
> >> > >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours
> >and
> >> > >> middle of the night arrival home.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Do a virtual net meeting ?
> >> >
> >> > If it is just to talk, a telephone conference is sufficient.
> >>
> >> I find them very unsatisfactory. I'm off to Birmingham this afternoon
> >> for a meeting with two people, one I know, one I don't- and all we will
> >> do is talk. The face to face is still important I find, and more
> >> productive usually. That's about 4 hours travel, just for a two hour
> >> meeting, so you could argue about the productivity I suppose- but I'll
> >> be able to get three hours work done during the travel...
> >
> >I hope you dont get there and find they are wearing veils !
>
> Seven veils or one? ITWSBT
Lol...
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Greg
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:58:30 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> >deansgate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:1hmzqcg.1vlcwx1wijzqnN%this_address_is_for_s [email protected]...
> >> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > >news:[email protected]...
> >> > >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
> >> > >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
> >of
> >> > >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >what's your point Jim?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many
> >even
> >> > >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more
> >money
> >> > >> >> and more hassle.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
> >> > >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours
> >and
> >> > >> middle of the night arrival home.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Do a virtual net meeting ?
> >> >
> >> > If it is just to talk, a telephone conference is sufficient.
> >>
> >> I find them very unsatisfactory. I'm off to Birmingham this afternoon
> >> for a meeting with two people, one I know, one I don't- and all we will
> >> do is talk. The face to face is still important I find, and more
> >> productive usually. That's about 4 hours travel, just for a two hour
> >> meeting, so you could argue about the productivity I suppose- but I'll
> >> be able to get three hours work done during the travel...
> >
> >I hope you dont get there and find they are wearing veils !
>
> Seven veils or one? ITWSBT
Lol...
--
Best
Greg
Oct 10th 2006, 10:52 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:40:17 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
my experience is that meetings are good for progress chasing, the
weekly closing the accounts meetings were really just so anybody
behind schedule felt humiliated in front of their peers.
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
my experience is that meetings are good for progress chasing, the
weekly closing the accounts meetings were really just so anybody
behind schedule felt humiliated in front of their peers.
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Oct 10th 2006, 10:52 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:00:31 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>> I don't think you can overestimate the value of establishing a proper
>> relationship, of course in some cases you find you hate each other!
>True- I find arts-related meetings very 'personal'- I'd find it hard to
>do on the phone.
worse if there's 10 or more people involved
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Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>> I don't think you can overestimate the value of establishing a proper
>> relationship, of course in some cases you find you hate each other!
>True- I find arts-related meetings very 'personal'- I'd find it hard to
>do on the phone.
worse if there's 10 or more people involved
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Oct 10th 2006, 10:52 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me -
a great way to get on! "Hello, councillor A, your proposed meeting
doesnt fit my bus schedule, lets make it during the day, shall we?"
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me -
a great way to get on! "Hello, councillor A, your proposed meeting
doesnt fit my bus schedule, lets make it during the day, shall we?"
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Oct 10th 2006, 10:52 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:00:33 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>I get people to rearrange meetings around my public transport schedule.
>I never get hassle for it- indeed, quite the opposite. Jim should maybe
>move into the arts! :)
It wouldn't work for the city traders!
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Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>I get people to rearrange meetings around my public transport schedule.
>I never get hassle for it- indeed, quite the opposite. Jim should maybe
>move into the arts! :)
It wouldn't work for the city traders!
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Oct 10th 2006, 11:46 pm
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:32 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
>>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>>> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
>>> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
>>> >> >> and more hassle.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
>>> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
>>> >> middle of the night arrival home.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>>>
>>> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>>> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
>>> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
>>> participate.
>>>
>>> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>>> with whoever isn't.
>>>
>>> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>>Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>meetings :-)
Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
wear suits?
Those people don't need meetings to make decisions, they use them for
other purposes.
In any case, making decisions is not my cup of tea. I'd rather someone
else did that, and I'll find reasons why they're the right ones!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0100,
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:40:49 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:34:26 +0100,
>>> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
>>> >> the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >what's your point Jim?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> You know my point... That PT is not a viable option for many even
>>> >> >> long journeys in the UK unless you are prepared to spend more money
>>> >> >> and more hassle.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I'd ask them to move the meeting an hour later. (I do that a lot.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Unfortunately my time is considerably less valuable than the other
>>> >> attendees - and it would also make the return journey over 5 hours and
>>> >> middle of the night arrival home.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Do a virtual net meeting ?
>>>
>>> Those things are more of a waste of time than a normal meeting. Why
>>> don't people realise that no real decisions ever happen in meetings,
>>> and that by not participating simply makes you appear too important to
>>> participate.
>>>
>>> The trick is to find out who is actually going to attend, and deal
>>> with whoever isn't.
>>>
>>> Don't tell anyone I told you that!
>>Boy- we work in completely different fields.
>DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>meetings :-)
Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
wear suits?
Those people don't need meetings to make decisions, they use them for
other purposes.
In any case, making decisions is not my cup of tea. I'd rather someone
else did that, and I'll find reasons why they're the right ones!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
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Oct 11th 2006, 12:57 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:47:33 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
>You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
Not going is a much better idea - mind you last time I was there no
mozzie bites - but they'd doubled the price of the beer and it was
full of people.
Jim.
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
>You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
Not going is a much better idea - mind you last time I was there no
mozzie bites - but they'd doubled the price of the beer and it was
full of people.
Jim.
Oct 11th 2006, 2:28 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:57:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:47:33 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>>>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>>>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>>>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
>>You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
>Not going is a much better idea - mind you last time I was there no
>mozzie bites - but they'd doubled the price of the beer and it was
>full of people.
I thought it was made with gnat's piss, one lives and learns. :-)
Doubling the price of beer is not exclusive to Leiden. Black Sheep was
on sale at GPB3.65 a pint in a pub in Whitby.
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Martin
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:47:33 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:43:56 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>Or just only agree to meet people less important than me - which might
>>>be good, as then I'd probably have no meetings at all. Fortunately
>>>the meeting has been moved to the evil place with the killer mozzies
>>>so I'll just not turn up, even better!
>>You could use an insect repellant. Anything with over 50% DEET works.
>Not going is a much better idea - mind you last time I was there no
>mozzie bites - but they'd doubled the price of the beer and it was
>full of people.
I thought it was made with gnat's piss, one lives and learns. :-)
Doubling the price of beer is not exclusive to Leiden. Black Sheep was
on sale at GPB3.65 a pint in a pub in Whitby.
--
Martin
Oct 11th 2006, 4:38 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:32 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
> >
> >Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
> >meetings :-)
>
> Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
> wear suits?
I didn't realise I was truly important!
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> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:32 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
> >
> >Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
> >meetings :-)
>
> Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
> wear suits?
I didn't realise I was truly important!
--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://www.davidhorne.net/pictures.html http://soundjunction.org
Oct 11th 2006, 4:46 am
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Re: Avoid a car for a day trip too London
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:38:43 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:32 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>> >
>> >Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>> >meetings :-)
>>
>> Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
>> wear suits?
>I didn't realise I was truly important!
We know we are but are too modest to boast about it :-)
We did ascertain that at one time DFM believed that everybody should
wear a suit to work. At the time I thought what a pillock he must look
amongst the rest of the staff producing software. :-)
Were ties mentioned?
--
Martin
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:32 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >DFM wears a suit to work, what did you expect? :-)
>> >
>> >Those who don't wear suits to work frequently make decisions at
>> >meetings :-)
>>
>> Didn't we already ascertain that truly important people don't need to
>> wear suits?
>I didn't realise I was truly important!
We know we are but are too modest to boast about it :-)
We did ascertain that at one time DFM believed that everybody should
wear a suit to work. At the time I thought what a pillock he must look
amongst the rest of the staff producing software. :-)
Were ties mentioned?
--
Martin
