Is Arafat DEAD or not???
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"RUSiriusA" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:gdeppe-
> So its ok to poison him and kill and bulldoze the Palestinians.
Poison, is that going to be the official arab lie on this one.
I'd put my money on aids, and have a much better chance of being right.
Jim E
> So its ok to poison him and kill and bulldoze the Palestinians.
Poison, is that going to be the official arab lie on this one.
I'd put my money on aids, and have a much better chance of being right.
Jim E
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On 2004-11-05 01:56:28 +0100, "Count 1" <[email protected]> said:
>> To whit:
>
>> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
>
>> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
>
>> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
>
>> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
>> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
>> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
>> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
>
> ROFLMAO.
>
> Good find - thanks.
Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
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>> To whit:
>
>> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
>
>> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
>
>> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
>
>> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
>> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
>> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
>> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
>
> ROFLMAO.
>
> Good find - thanks.
Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
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On 2004-11-05 02:29:52 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
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> "RUSiriusA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Well Is He <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ? ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> After the Bush election win... he went into a coma.
>>
>> I certainly hope that the new "president" of Palestine will get the
>> respect he/she deserves... if just for its oppressed people.
>
> Where I come from, respect is earned, not given. People who lie,
> reneige on deals, and foster hatred are NOT worthy of any respect.
Yes, but we weren't talking about Bush.
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> "RUSiriusA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Well Is He <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ? ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> After the Bush election win... he went into a coma.
>>
>> I certainly hope that the new "president" of Palestine will get the
>> respect he/she deserves... if just for its oppressed people.
>
> Where I come from, respect is earned, not given. People who lie,
> reneige on deals, and foster hatred are NOT worthy of any respect.
Yes, but we weren't talking about Bush.
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On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
>>
>
> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
pride.
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>>
>
> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
pride.
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On 2004-11-05 01:53:54 +0100, "Jeff" <[email protected]> said:
>
> "RUSiriusA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Well Is He <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ? ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> After the Bush election win... he went into a coma.
>>
>> I certainly hope that the new "president" of Palestine will get the
>> respect he/she deserves... if just for its oppressed people.
>
> Respect is earned. Besides, Arafat is the Chairman of the PLO as there is
> no Palestine to be president of, not the President of Palestine.
Not long ago there as no Israel, either.
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> "RUSiriusA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Well Is He <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ? ? ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> After the Bush election win... he went into a coma.
>>
>> I certainly hope that the new "president" of Palestine will get the
>> respect he/she deserves... if just for its oppressed people.
>
> Respect is earned. Besides, Arafat is the Chairman of the PLO as there is
> no Palestine to be president of, not the President of Palestine.
Not long ago there as no Israel, either.
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On 2004-11-05 05:22:08 +0100, "Jeff" <[email protected]> said:
>
> Have a little respect for Der Great Chimp. The little shitball is in a
> French hospital dying. Israel, Clinton and Arafat had a meeting in which
> Arafat would have gotten almost all of what he wanted but walked out on the
> deal. Improvement? Well, the death of the Great Chimp will be a starter.
Not even the Americans believe that particular History Denial any more.
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> Have a little respect for Der Great Chimp. The little shitball is in a
> French hospital dying. Israel, Clinton and Arafat had a meeting in which
> Arafat would have gotten almost all of what he wanted but walked out on the
> deal. Improvement? Well, the death of the Great Chimp will be a starter.
Not even the Americans believe that particular History Denial any more.
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"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2004-11-05 01:56:28 +0100, "Count 1" <[email protected]> said:
> >> To whit:
> >
> >> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
> >
> >> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
> >
> >> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
> >
> >> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
> >> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
> >> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
> >> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
> >
> > ROFLMAO.
> >
> > Good find - thanks.
> Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
> poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
So you're saying it wasn't Israelis, but Palestinian militants in Gaza who
poisoned Arafat?
news:[email protected]...
> On 2004-11-05 01:56:28 +0100, "Count 1" <[email protected]> said:
> >> To whit:
> >
> >> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
> >
> >> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
> >
> >> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
> >
> >> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
> >> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
> >> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
> >> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
> >
> > ROFLMAO.
> >
> > Good find - thanks.
> Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
> poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
So you're saying it wasn't Israelis, but Palestinian militants in Gaza who
poisoned Arafat?
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The was poisoned by members of their personal team.
Israely Secret Services bribed one of them.
"Count 1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 2004-11-05 01:56:28 +0100, "Count 1" <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > >> To whit:
> > >
> > >> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
> > >
> > >> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
> > >
> > >> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
> > >
> > >> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
> > >> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
> > >> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
> > >> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
> > >
> > > ROFLMAO.
> > >
> > > Good find - thanks.
> >
> > Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
> > poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
> So you're saying it wasn't Israelis, but Palestinian militants in Gaza who
> poisoned Arafat?
Israely Secret Services bribed one of them.
"Count 1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 2004-11-05 01:56:28 +0100, "Count 1" <[email protected]> said:
> >
> > >> To whit:
> > >
> > >> http://www.islam-online.net/English/...rticle07.shtml
> > >
> > >> Arafat Slowly, Fatally Poisoned: Sources
> > >
> > >> By Abdul-Raheem Ali, IOL Staff
> > >
> > >> CAIRO, November 4 (IslamOnline.net) - Palestinian President Yasser
> > >> Arafat had been slowly yet fatally poisoned before being taken to a
> > >> French military hospital for treatment, Palestinian sources told
> > >> IslamOnline.net on Thursday, November 4.
> > >
> > > ROFLMAO.
> > >
> > > Good find - thanks.
> >
> > Seems unlikely, but if you'll shoot a little girl at point blank range,
> > poisoning an old man shouldn't pose to much of an ethical dilemma.
> So you're saying it wasn't Israelis, but Palestinian militants in Gaza who
> poisoned Arafat?
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"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get them
>> anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance to
> live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now whatever
> they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they got to the
> same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with pride.
Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about 95% of
what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the intifada. This is
all public record. There are SOME palestinians that will accept nothing
less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously, the Israelis aren't willing
to allow that.
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> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get them
>> anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance to
> live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now whatever
> they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they got to the
> same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with pride.
Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about 95% of
what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the intifada. This is
all public record. There are SOME palestinians that will accept nothing
less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously, the Israelis aren't willing
to allow that.
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On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> said:
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> "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
>>> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
>>
>> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
>> to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
>> whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
>> got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
>> pride.
>>
> Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> 95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
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> "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
>>> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
>>
>> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
>> to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
>> whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
>> got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
>> pride.
>>
> Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> 95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> said:
>
> >
> > "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
> >>> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
> >> to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
> >> whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
> >> got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
> >> pride.
> >>
> > Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> > 95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> > intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> > will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> > the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
>
> Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>
> J;
Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> said:
>
> >
> > "Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]> said:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not get
> >>> them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the chance
> >> to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
> >> whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting, they
> >> got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died with
> >> pride.
> >>
> > Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> > 95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> > intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> > will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> > the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
>
> Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>
> J;
Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
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>>>On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed" <[email protected]>said:
>>>>If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not
get
>>>>them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
>>"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]>wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the
chance
>>>to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
>>>whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting,
they
>>>got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died
with
>>>pride.
They have made no concessions, and have yet to implement a single
provision of the agreements -- those provisions they haven't violated,
that is -- they have entered into with Israel.
>On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]>said:
>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians
about
>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
>>intifada. This is all public record.
At the 2000 Camp David talks, what Barak offered Arafat went way
beyond anything Yitzhak Rabin offered him -- including concessions on
Jerusalem which Rabin never offered, and made a point that would not
be offered--points to which Arafat had agreed. The Egyptian rejected
Barak's entire offer, then went back and launched the current
intifadeh, which, as Palestinian leaders have admitted, they had
already been planning before the talks began.
>>There are SOME palestinians that
>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>J;
Actually, they did, but it's evident you're not anyone knows anything
on the subject you are attempting to address.
Deborah
>>>>If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not
get
>>>>them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
>>"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]>wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the
chance
>>>to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
>>>whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting,
they
>>>got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died
with
>>>pride.
They have made no concessions, and have yet to implement a single
provision of the agreements -- those provisions they haven't violated,
that is -- they have entered into with Israel.
>On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]>said:
>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians
about
>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
>>intifada. This is all public record.
At the 2000 Camp David talks, what Barak offered Arafat went way
beyond anything Yitzhak Rabin offered him -- including concessions on
Jerusalem which Rabin never offered, and made a point that would not
be offered--points to which Arafat had agreed. The Egyptian rejected
Barak's entire offer, then went back and launched the current
intifadeh, which, as Palestinian leaders have admitted, they had
already been planning before the talks began.
>>There are SOME palestinians that
>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>J;
Actually, they did, but it's evident you're not anyone knows anything
on the subject you are attempting to address.
Deborah
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hirez wrote:
>>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
>>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
>>>intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
>>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
>>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
>>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>>J;
>
>
> Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
Actually, they, the Israelis, offered the Palestinian Muslims
about 5% of what they, the Palestinians, wanted. The other
95% was the total expulsion of Jews from Israel and the
return of the Muslims.
Doug McDonald
>>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
>>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
>>>intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
>>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
>>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
>>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
>>J;
>
>
> Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
Actually, they, the Israelis, offered the Palestinian Muslims
about 5% of what they, the Palestinians, wanted. The other
95% was the total expulsion of Jews from Israel and the
return of the Muslims.
Doug McDonald
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In article <[email protected]>,
Doug McDonald <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> hirez wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> >>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> >>>intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> >>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> >>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
> >>
> >>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
> >>
> >>J;
> >
> >
> > Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
>
> Actually, they, the Israelis, offered the Palestinian Muslims
> about 5% of what they, the Palestinians, wanted. The other
> 95% was the total expulsion of Jews from Israel and the
> return of the Muslims.
>
Yeah, good point. I stand corrected.
Doug McDonald <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> hirez wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians about
> >>>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> >>>intifada. This is all public record. There are SOME palestinians that
> >>>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel. Obviously,
> >>>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
> >>
> >>Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
> >>
> >>J;
> >
> >
> > Actually they did, but don't let the facts distract you.
>
> Actually, they, the Israelis, offered the Palestinian Muslims
> about 5% of what they, the Palestinians, wanted. The other
> 95% was the total expulsion of Jews from Israel and the
> return of the Muslims.
>
Yeah, good point. I stand corrected.
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Deborah Sharavi wrote:
> >>>On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed"
<[email protected]>said:
> >>>>If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not
> get
> >>>>them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> >>"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]>wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>>Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the
> chance
> >>>to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
> >>>whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting,
> they
> >>>got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died
> with
> >>>pride.
> They have made no concessions, and have yet to implement a single
> provision of the agreements -- those provisions they haven't
violated,
> that is -- they have entered into with Israel.
> >On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]>said:
> >>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians
> about
> >>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> >>intifada. This is all public record.
> At the 2000 Camp David talks, what Barak offered Arafat went way
> beyond anything Yitzhak Rabin offered him -- including concessions on
> Jerusalem which Rabin never offered, and made a point that would not
> be offered--points to which Arafat had agreed. The Egyptian rejected
> Barak's entire offer, then went back and launched the current
> intifadeh, which, as Palestinian leaders have admitted, they had
> already been planning before the talks began.
> >>There are SOME palestinians that
> >>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel.
Obviously,
> >>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Apart from the slaughter Arafat embarked on after Camp David the
saddest thing about the whole business is that Israelis, to get peace,
were even resigned to sharing Jerusalem. A huge, huge sacrifice but
Israel would have paid that price.
The true story leaves no doubt at all that what the "Palestinians" are
after is very far from a Middle East with Israel still in it.
> Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
> >J;
> Actually, they did, but it's evident you're not anyone knows anything
> on the subject you are attempting to address.
>
> Deborah
> >>>On 2004-11-05 02:31:55 +0100, "Ed"
<[email protected]>said:
> >>>>If the Palestinians would only learn that killing Jews will not
> get
> >>>>them anywhere, then homes would stop getting bulldozed.
> >>"Jeremy Henderson" <[email protected]>wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>>Perhaps you can explain to us what WILL get the Palestinians the
> chance
> >>>to live in peace? Lying down and sucking Jewish cocks? Until now
> >>>whatever they tried, talking, makingh concessions, or fighting,
> they
> >>>got to the same place. At least fighting makes them feel they died
> with
> >>>pride.
> They have made no concessions, and have yet to implement a single
> provision of the agreements -- those provisions they haven't
violated,
> that is -- they have entered into with Israel.
> >On 2004-11-05 22:34:59 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]>said:
> >>Actually, a few years ago the Israelis offered the Palestinians
> about
> >>95% of what they wanted. It wasn't enough, so they started the
> >>intifada. This is all public record.
> At the 2000 Camp David talks, what Barak offered Arafat went way
> beyond anything Yitzhak Rabin offered him -- including concessions on
> Jerusalem which Rabin never offered, and made a point that would not
> be offered--points to which Arafat had agreed. The Egyptian rejected
> Barak's entire offer, then went back and launched the current
> intifadeh, which, as Palestinian leaders have admitted, they had
> already been planning before the talks began.
> >>There are SOME palestinians that
> >>will accept nothing less than the destruction of Israel.
Obviously,
> >>the Israelis aren't willing to allow that.
Apart from the slaughter Arafat embarked on after Camp David the
saddest thing about the whole business is that Israelis, to get peace,
were even resigned to sharing Jerusalem. A huge, huge sacrifice but
Israel would have paid that price.
The true story leaves no doubt at all that what the "Palestinians" are
after is very far from a Middle East with Israel still in it.
> Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >Actually they didn't, as anyone who knows anything will tell you.
> >J;
> Actually, they did, but it's evident you're not anyone knows anything
> on the subject you are attempting to address.
>
> Deborah