Axqi Rqvst

    > We have a 60 cent dollar and
    > the US stock market has a rate of return almost double that of canada
    > for past 20 years. Our unemployment rate has been double the US rate
    > for the past 20 years.

Canadians mostly invest in the US stock market, leaving the Americans
to buy Canadian stocks, penny shares or not.

Limbaugh

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:31:46 +0200, "Mxsmanic"
wrote:

    >"ronin" a écrit dans le message de news:
    >[email protected].. .
    >> Canadains are free to go to Cuba anytime they like.
    >> And they do because they're free.
    >They may be free abroad, but they have many restrictions on their liberties
    >at home compared to the U.S.
what a joke

Limbaugh

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:25:49 GMT, "ronin" wrote:

    > wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:08:48 -0500, Ken Pisichko
    >> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >[email protected] wrote:
    >> >
    >> >Why would anyone travel to Canada or France?
    >> >
    >> >> Go to Italy and Spain. Nice people, good food,
    >> >> lots of sunshine, plenty to see, much better deal.
    >> >
    >> >OTOH, why bother to travel at all. Save your money stay at home. Forget
    >about experiencing
    >> >the world and leave any of your savings to your estate while you forgo
    >any experiences you
    >> >would have had by going to other countries.
    >> >
    >> >No such thing as a "bad" country to visit. They are all a part of life's
    >experiences.
    >> >Having travelled through some real hell-holes (including several in the
    >middle of or
    >> >recovering from a civil war), I'll be the first to state that some
    >countries seem to be
    >> >more pleasant to visit than others. However by going to more and more
    >places do you
    >> >realize that no place has a monopoly on good/bad people. There are great
    >folks in the
    >> >toughest hell-hole and real scoundrels in otherwise great places.
    >> >
    >> >Enjoy! - regardless of where you go.
    >> >
    >> Go to Cuba. Its a beautiful country and the people are great and the
    >> music is out of this world.
    >> Oh, wait! AWOL Bush doesn't want you to go there. Unlike China, in
    >> fact the opposite of the case with China, travel to Cuba keeps them
    >> from change.
    >Canadains are free to go to Cuba anytime they like.
    >And they do because they're free.
    >Maybe the US should end the embargo..
AWOL Bush wants MORE restrictions

Restrictions apparently make us more free.

Johndoe

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:45:55 GMT, "Mark Marinelli"
wrote:

    >.
    >German soldiers could walk the streets of Paris without their weapons.
    >And, in fact, Paris was a favorite tourist trap for German soldiers on
    >leave
    >Yes we are all sure you would have been out there shooting 'em up .
    >The French people are peaceful and party loving. They love to sing and eat
    >and make love.
and sell weapons to embargoed countries

Gw

We mustn't let a good myth die, must we?

What weapons? Were they prohibited by any UN embargo? Was it something that
other nations were not doing to this, or any other, dictatorship?

Specifically, since this seems to be the popular theme: Did France sell any
nuclear power stations to Iraq since an embargo was applied by the UN? If
so, when? Was it ALL of France that did so, or was it a single company? Was
the contract organized by or sanctioned by the French government?

Let's have all the details, so that we can move from vague innuendo to
discussing verifiable facts.




"JohnDoe" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:45:55 GMT, "Mark Marinelli"
    > wrote:
    > >.
    > >
    > >
    > >German soldiers could walk the streets of Paris without their weapons.
    > >And, in fact, Paris was a favorite tourist trap for German soldiers on
    > >leave
    > >
    > >
    > >Yes we are all sure you would have been out there shooting 'em up .
    > >
    > >The French people are peaceful and party loving. They love to sing and
eat
    > >and make love.
    > >
    > and sell weapons to embargoed countries

Deep Floyd Mars

Ken Pisichko wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > Why would anyone travel to Canada or France?
    > > Go to Italy and Spain. Nice people, good food,
    > > lots of sunshine, plenty to see, much better deal.
    > OTOH, why bother to travel at all. Save your money stay at home. Forget
about experiencing
    > the world and leave any of your savings to your estate while you forgo any
experiences you
    > would have had by going to other countries.
    > No such thing as a "bad" country to visit. They are all a part of life's
experiences.
    > Having travelled through some real hell-holes (including several in the
middle of or
    > recovering from a civil war), I'll be the first to state that some
countries seem to be
    > more pleasant to visit than others. However by going to more and more
places do you
    > realize that no place has a monopoly on good/bad people. There are great
folks in the
    > toughest hell-hole and real scoundrels in otherwise great places.
    > Enjoy! - regardless of where you go.

I'll drink to that!!! Even hellholes are worthwhile, although I might draw
the line at central Columbia. Some parts of Africa are not too good either.
Nth Korea is probably out of the question, because I think you can only do
state organised tours, and they are expensive.
---
DFM

Richard J

GW wrote:
    > " I might go to Sault St. Marie and cross back and forth a dozen times every
    > day for a week just to aggrivate them."
    >
    > Yup, that sounds like a sensible thing to do.

Hey, why not? It gives them something to do, and I have nothing to
hide. If they don't think it funny, good! I don't much appreciate
being singled out for a search every time I cross the border simply
because I come from Texas. I know that to be the case for I've asked
the guys searching before. They admitted that they usually search
vehicles only from the southern and southwestern US. Sorry, but that
sucks. If it wasn't for the scenery in some places and big Northern
pike in others, I would not cross the border. It damned sure isn't the
hospitality.

Teflon

    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Richard J" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Doug wrote:
    >>>Roedy Green wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>>>On 19 Apr 2003 12:30:59 -0700, [email protected] (Johnny
    >>>>Hallyday) wrote or quoted :
    >>>>>Americans are avoiding France and most of Canada. They are too
    >>>>>concerned after hearing about Americans being robbed and beaten.
    >>>>On the other side Canadian truckers are getting their tires slashed
    >>>>and given spurious speeding tickets in America.
    >>>Ya gotta hand it to those enterprising Americans. Always thinking of a
    > buck.
    >
    >>>We insult their hockey kids and they slash our trucker's tires.
    >>>Then another American sells new tires. Damn! They are clever.
    >>Damn right. Not only do we sell the tires, but think of the road
    >>service charges! Send more Canadian truckers and their trucks!!!! Do
    >>yo think any of them would drive to Texas?
    >>I think I'll go to Canada this summer a half a dozen times just to give
    >>the border guards some work searching my pickup. I'm from Texas, and
    >>they search it every time anyway. I might go to Sault St. Marie and
    >>cross back and forth a dozen times every day for a week just to
    >>aggrivate them.
    >>It's really quite funny after a while. They always assume that because
    >>I'm from Texas, I must be carrying a pistol or something and insist on
    >>searching my truck. The thing is, they are not too good at their job,
    >>never looking in the air filter compartment, checking the spare tire, or
    >>under the fuel filter cover, all of which could hide small pistols. I
    >>especially enjoy opening all the compartments in the truck, pulling out
    >>the tool box and portable air pump from behind the seat, etc. I think
    >>I'll fill a baggie with some baking soda and leave it under the seat one
    >>time just to increase the pleasure. What do you bet they won't bellieve
    >>me when I tell them what it is?
    >>Teflon
    >
    >
    >

Mxsmanic

"JohnDoe" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...

    > and sell weapons to embargoed countries

At least they don't give them away for free.

Steve

X-no-archive: yes

"GW" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Steve, did you really think, a serious or sensible suggestion would be
    > accepted around here?

Lol :-) You do have a point - in the land of the Usenet & trolls, a
serious or sensible suggestion may not make it very far.

Those whom are sensible and knowledgable would know:

#1) Americans are not being attacked and being beaten in France;
#2) The risk of catching SARS by traveling to Toronto is extremely low;
#3) There is not an outbreak of SARS in Quebec;
#4) Americans are not being mugged and beaten in Montreal.

In reference to #2, Toronto is a large city with a large metropolitan area.
The # of cases in Toronto is extremely small compared to the overall
population and those who have it are quarantined. I'd be more concerned
about traveling to Hong Kong or certain areas of China in regards to SARS.

Regards,

Steve

P.S. I was in Spain a few weeks ago where an overwealming 96% of the
population is against the war and anti-war protests were commonplace. As an
American, I was welcome and did not encounter any problems. I did not have
the opportunity to travel into France on that trip, but I look forward to
visiting France on my next trip to Europe in late summer / early fall.

Steve

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Johnny Hallyday" a écrit dans le message
de
    > news: [email protected]...
    > > I would also avoid Canada because
    > > that SARS virus is out of control in
    > > Canada. Thousands of people could die.
    > SARS out of control? Even in China it is only affecting one person in a
    > million, and the mortality rate is under 10%. You've got to stop watching
    > CNN all the time.

Well said - thanks for bringing a bit of sensibility to this thread. One
should also keep in mind of the mortality rate, many of those people were
already ill, had medical problems and/or compromised immune systems.
Influenza - the flu, has resulted in more fatalities than SARS has - but
thankfully there are immunizations for the flu.

I think we can thank the press for all of the SARS fears getting out of
hand. If it were not for the war, I'd be willing to bet SARS would be 24/7
news coverage and the fears would be much worse.

Regards,

Steve

Devil

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:31:46 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

    > "ronin" a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    >
    >> Canadains are free to go to Cuba anytime they like.
    >> And they do because they're free.
    >
    > They may be free abroad, but they have many restrictions on their liberties
    > at home compared to the U.S.

Nonsense.

OK, sure there are restrictions on guns. Occasional restriction on
publication by courts to protect the rights of the accused. Most of this
is of little significance.

But otherwise, I would say rather the opposite. There are no laws against
sodomy in Canada, for instance. You don't have a powerful fundamentalist
coalition trying to make the laws their control tool.

Deep Floyd Mars

wrote in message
news[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:30:37 -0700, Emil Nitrate
    > wrote:
    > >In message
    > >[email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >>On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 18:02:36 -0400, "James Linn"
    > >>wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>>"Johnny Hallyday" wrote in message
    > >>>news:[email protected]...
    > >>>>
    >>>http://www.canada.com/montreal/news/...0A3-4EF2-8A6F-
FB4
    > >>>1057F7E4E
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Americans are avoiding France and most of Canada. They are too
    > >>>> concerned after hearing about Americans being robbed and beaten.
    > >>>
    > >>>First of all, when you read the news you should also notice the source.
    > >>
    > >>First of all when you read a post you should note the source. Johnny
    > >>Hallyday iks a popular French singer, 666 is said to represent the
    > >>number of the beast.
    > >>
    > >>Johnnyhallyday666 is a troll.
    > >
    > >Yes, but P557 could very well be Parishioner 557, which is 3 less than
    > >560, and everyone knows three is the sign of god. Are you purporting
    > >to be near god?
    > No, I'm giving you a little useful information. If you want to act
    > like a ****, that's your prerogative.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oversensitive

oversensitive
adj : unduly sensitive or thin-skinned
---
DFM

Deep Floyd Mars

Emil Nitrate wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In message Richard J
    > wrote:
    > >FZero wrote:
    > >> "Roedy Green" wrote in message
    > >> news:[email protected]...
    > >>
    > >>>I maintain a tourist website for Quadra Island at
    > >>>http://mindprod.com/quadres.html
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Very nice place :-)
    > >>
    > >> I was planning on going back to America this year again but I don't
really
    > >> know how I will welcome now....
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >You will probably as welcomed in the US as Americans are in France.
    > >There are idiots everywhere, and you will find a lot of people who think
    > >France acted in a bad way, but no more would seek to hurt you personally
    > >because of that than Frenchmen seek to do the same to Americans in
    > >Paris. Make your assumptions from that viewpoint.
    > >
    > >Teflon
    > I don't believe for a minute that the majority of Americans would ever
    > want to harm the french physically, however it is rather important
    > that we teach them about friendship, and how important it is to help
    > your friends, even when you don't really want to. Relationships
    > require a give and take to work effectively, the french can't always
    > take, and if they continue down their path of self-serving ignorance
    > towards the plight of oppressed people in this world, they will soon
    > see how important their friends once were to them.

Once again, replace 'Americans' with 'French', and vice versa.
---
DFM

Devil

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:36:23 +0000, Steve wrote:

    >
    > "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "Johnny Hallyday" a écrit dans le message
    > de
    >> news: [email protected]...
    >> > I would also avoid Canada because
    >> > that SARS virus is out of control in
    >> > Canada. Thousands of people could die.
    >> SARS out of control? Even in China it is only affecting one person in a
    >> million, and the mortality rate is under 10%. You've got to stop watching
    >> CNN all the time.
    >
    > Well said - thanks for bringing a bit of sensibility to this thread. One
    > should also keep in mind of the mortality rate, many of those people were
    > already ill, had medical problems and/or compromised immune systems.
    > Influenza - the flu, has resulted in more fatalities than SARS has - but
    > thankfully there are immunizations for the flu.
    >
    > I think we can thank the press for all of the SARS fears getting out of
    > hand. If it were not for the war, I'd be willing to bet SARS would be 24/7
    > news coverage and the fears would be much worse.

You guys are indulging in a bit of wishful thinking, I would say. For
those of us over 50, with relatives in Toronto, and who had a trip to
China planned for this summer, it's a pretty major issue.

Even if only killing 4% and mostly older folks, SARS is pretty bad. In
China it is definitely out of control. Probably in Hong Kong too,
although they are getting pretty heavy handed.

Even closer to home, in Toronto, it's not all that good. We really need
to watch Toronto. I would say that at the current stage, they have not
managed to contain it there, but at least they are "managing" it.
Unsuccessful at making it go away, but so far avoiding what would be the
natural growth, which is exponential.

Anyway, if we don't get a vaccine out very quick, odds are SARS will kill
4% of the population of China. 40 million people. Surely that's not
insignificant? Plus there are already major economic consequences, with
much more to come, more airline bankruptcies for instance.

Or is it like the Iraq war, since it's in some hypothetical far away land,
this is just TV, made in Hollywood?

Devil

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:06:58 +0000, Axqi Rqvst wrote:

    >> We have a 60 cent dollar and
    >> the US stock market has a rate of return almost double that of canada
    >> for past 20 years. Our unemployment rate has been double the US rate
    >> for the past 20 years.
    >
    > Canadians mostly invest in the US stock market, leaving the Americans
    > to buy Canadian stocks, penny shares or not.

Could be. But the recent raise in the CAD won't help those Canadians who
always see the grass greener on the other side.