Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:16:41 +0100, [email protected]
    > (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:23:38 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Electricity confuses me so I'm not going to answer that one. I
    > >> >do know it won't leak out, though. ;)
    > >>
    > >> Unlike my granny, who was convinced electrickery leaked out unless the
    > >> plugs were left in.
    > >
    > >My great granny warned my granny before she took her children (including
    > >my dad) on their first jet plan trip in the 60s- something like "mind no
    > >let them bairns stick thir heids oot o' the windaes noo!"
    >
    > He should have listened to her advice David :-)

I resemble those remarks! :)

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Zhu De

"J*" <J*@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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<< Is it dangerous to drive a car with US licenses plates, in France ?or in
Spain? >>

A lot depends on how fast you drive your car with US licenses plates and how
competant a driver is at driving it.

Icono Clast

J* wrote:
    > I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person,
    > may have her car vandalized , on the account of having an american
    > license plate on it?

Same as in San Francisco if it has a "George Bush" bumper sticker, a
fish symbol, or an anti-gay or -abortion message.
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Tim Challenger

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:24:46 GMT, J* wrote:

    > I will probably replace the plates with French plates (Black with white
    > letters), and take my chance with the police controls.

I thought the new ones were white with black letters?
(At the front anyway - white or yellow with black letters at the back).

Then you'll be nicked for driving with false plates. And of course if your
car does get damaged/burgled you'll find the insurance will almost
certainly be invalid as well.

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Tim C.

Keith W

"J*" <J*@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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    > This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
    > be driven but by an American citizen. Considering the general situation of
    > car , being vandalized , burglarized and even burnt to the ground by
    > unsavory elements of the population, I was asking a simple opinion.

Given that the car is already in France and that hasnt happened
yet you may want to rethink this viewpoint..


    > I was once attaqued in a Chevrolet van, 20 miles from Frejus, as I was
    > taking a nap in it at 4PM. so the concern is real.
    > I will probably replace the plates with French plates (Black with white
    > letters), and take my chance with the police controls.

This is a VERY bad idea unless you want to spend your vacation
in prison. Police forces can very quickly check license plates
against vehicle descriptions on the computer. I know in the UK
automated license plate checks are done at some roadside points
and wouldnt be surprised if this happened in Paris too.

At best the police will assume you stole the vehicle and you'll have
an uncomfortable 24 hours inside a jail followed by a very large fine.

If you dont trust the French either stay at home or rent a vehicle locally.


Keith



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Tom Peel

[email protected] wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, J*@mn.rr.com (J*)
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>*From:* "J*" <J*@mn.rr.com>
    >>*Date:* Sun, 07 Aug 2005 20:02:06 GMT
    >>What kind of crappy answers is that?
    >>I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may
    >>have her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license
    >>plate on it?
    >
    >
    > I've never actually heard of it happening, but I wouldn't say it's
    > completely beyond the realms of possibility, if the U.S. did something
    > deeply unpopular.
    >
    > Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
    > inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
    > correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
    > So it might not even be recognised.
    >
In fact, the number plates in Germany used by US forces personnel have
been changed twice to make them less conspicuous. Originally they were
green with black lettering and a 3 letter 3 digit licence number, and
they did say "USA" on them. Then they changed to white with black
lettering. Then they were changed again to look almost identical to the
local German number plates, and a German-style licence number, with what
appears to be a (non-existent) city code "HK".
T.

    > On balance I wouldn't worry about it.
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------
    > The poster formerly known as [email protected].
    > My new email address is that one, with the first digit of years in the
    > current century placed after the first word.

Andreas H . Zappel

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>>This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
    >>>be driven but by an American citizen. Considering the general situation of
    >>But this is a problem of the customs.
    >The car could belong to the US govt.

Than it isn't only a custom problem.

Greetings from Cologne

Andreas

Martin

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:22:29 +0200, Andreas H. Zappel
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>This car is already in France with US license plates. It is not allowed to
    >>>>be driven but by an American citizen. Considering the general situation of
    >>>But this is a problem of the customs.
    >>The car could belong to the US govt.
    >Than it isn't only a custom problem.

Where did OP mention customs?
--
Martin

Tim

"Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> In article <[email protected]>, J*@mn.rr.com (J*)
    >> wrote:
    >> Having said that, it's only a very small minority of people who would be
    >> inclined to vandalise anyone's car for any reason; and also, if I recall
    >> correctly, U.S. license plates don't actually say "USA" on them, do they?
    >> So it might not even be recognised.
    > But he'd have to have a USA sticker on the car by law surely?

Does such a thing exit.?

I've only ever seen European and Middle East letters

tim

Tim

"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > J* <J*@mn.rr.com> wrote:
    >> What kind of crappy answers is that?
    >> I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
    >> her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate
    >> on
    >> it?
    > If you park the car next to an ATM it should be fine.

Damn, that's what I'm doing wrong [1].

tim

[1] My GB-ed card has been vandalised three times since I arrive.
I've yet to work out if it's simply the vulnerableness of the place that
I am forced to park it (because I don't have my own space) or
really is because it *is* foreign (though I'm not going to suggest that
the GB sticker is the problem)

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn And

tim (moved to sweden) <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1h0xzz7.14s222qsjnxdN%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
    > > J* <J*@mn.rr.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> What kind of crappy answers is that?
    > >> I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
    > >> her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate
    > >> on
    > >> it?
    > >
    > > If you park the car next to an ATM it should be fine.
    >
    > Damn, that's what I'm doing wrong [1].
    >
    > tim
    >
    > [1] My GB-ed card has been vandalised three times since I arrive.
    > I've yet to work out if it's simply the vulnerableness of the place that
    > I am forced to park it (because I don't have my own space) or
    > really is because it *is* foreign (though I'm not going to suggest that
    > the GB sticker is the problem)

Certainly, if you've got vandals in the area intent on damaging
something, anything that catches their attention could be trouble. We
gave up replacing our front door bell- it's been removed twice. Either
we get one that is almost impossible to remove or one that blends
perfectly with the colour of the wood on the door.

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Jeremyrh Geo

J* wrote:
    > What kind of crappy answers is that?
    > I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
    > her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate on
    > it?

You seem to have confused Europe with Teheran. Contrary to what you
might wish to believe, Europeans as a whole don't give a flying ****
about the USA, or its luckless inhabitants.

G;

Martin Theodor Ludwig

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:56:28 -0500, "Donald Newcomb"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Thousands of American service members drive all over Europe with special
    >"US Military" license plates.

... which used to contain an expressive "USA" on the plate. But in newer
times in Germany they are replaced with nearly-German-looking plates
(with the same font as "real" Germans, and only when looking close one
can see that the circle of European stars is replaced with a NATO logo),
for which purpose some dummy county abbreviations have been created.

CU, Martin

J*

I LOVE YOU TOO,
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > J* wrote:
    >> What kind of crappy answers is that?
    >> I am asking if ,according to hearsay and experience if a person, may have
    >> her car vandalized , on the account of having an american license plate
    >> on
    >> it?
    > You seem to have confused Europe with Teheran. Contrary to what you
    > might wish to believe, Europeans as a whole don't give a flying ****
    > about the USA, or its luckless inhabitants.
    > G;
    >

Mxsmanic

J* writes:

    > Is it dangerous to drive a car with US licenses plates, in France?

No. You may receive a citation if you are residing in France, though,
since you have to register the car with the French government if you
are a resident. And since the only way to drive a car with US plates
in Europe is to ship the car to Europe (which implies a long stay),
eventually the French are likely to tire of you driving around with US
plates. Checks are not frequent but if they find out you've been
there two years without proper vehicle registration it may cost you a
lot of money.