airline question
Feb 23rd 2003, 3:26 am
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airline question
For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
Thanks in advance.
bondog
Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
Thanks in advance.
bondog
Feb 23rd 2003, 4:49 am
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Re: airline question
"bondog" wrote in message
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> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
Big problem. If you miss the first leg of the round-trip the airline will
cancel the return. This is standard practice. You should book a round-trip
starting in Paris and then throw away the return. Of course many people
will tell you this is not allowed, the airline will bill your credit card
for the additional cost of a one-way trip etc, etc. The fact is you can do
it without penalty.
Ryan
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> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
Big problem. If you miss the first leg of the round-trip the airline will
cancel the return. This is standard practice. You should book a round-trip
starting in Paris and then throw away the return. Of course many people
will tell you this is not allowed, the airline will bill your credit card
for the additional cost of a one-way trip etc, etc. The fact is you can do
it without penalty.
Ryan
Feb 23rd 2003, 6:17 am
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bondog wrote:
> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to Paris,
> but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any problems checking
> in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
This won't work at all. If you don't show up for the first leg the rest of
your ticket will be cancelled.
I can't imagine why you'd want to do it, anyway, since the ticket is more
cheaply bought in France.
miguel
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> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to Paris,
> but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any problems checking
> in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
This won't work at all. If you don't show up for the first leg the rest of
your ticket will be cancelled.
I can't imagine why you'd want to do it, anyway, since the ticket is more
cheaply bought in France.
miguel
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Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Feb 23rd 2003, 11:10 am
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Ryan B wrote:
> "bondog" wrote in message
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>>For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
>>Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
>>problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
>>Thanks in advance.
>>bondog
> Big problem. If you miss the first leg of the round-trip the airline will
> cancel the return. This is standard practice. You should book a round-trip
> starting in Paris and then throw away the return. Of course many people
> will tell you this is not allowed, the airline will bill your credit card
> for the additional cost of a one-way trip etc, etc. The fact is you can do
> it without penalty.
>
> Ryan
In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
gave up on the ticket.
Frank Matthews
> "bondog" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
>>Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
>>problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
>>Thanks in advance.
>>bondog
> Big problem. If you miss the first leg of the round-trip the airline will
> cancel the return. This is standard practice. You should book a round-trip
> starting in Paris and then throw away the return. Of course many people
> will tell you this is not allowed, the airline will bill your credit card
> for the additional cost of a one-way trip etc, etc. The fact is you can do
> it without penalty.
>
> Ryan
In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
gave up on the ticket.
Frank Matthews
Feb 23rd 2003, 5:44 pm
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[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote in message news:...
> bondog wrote:
> > For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to Paris,
> > but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any problems checking
> > in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
>
> This won't work at all. If you don't show up for the first leg the rest of
> your ticket will be cancelled.
>
> I can't imagine why you'd want to do it, anyway, since the ticket is more
> cheaply bought in France.
>
> miguel
Miguel,
We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
difference ($640).
Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
return flight?
bondog
> bondog wrote:
> > For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to Paris,
> > but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any problems checking
> > in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
>
> This won't work at all. If you don't show up for the first leg the rest of
> your ticket will be cancelled.
>
> I can't imagine why you'd want to do it, anyway, since the ticket is more
> cheaply bought in France.
>
> miguel
Miguel,
We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
difference ($640).
Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
return flight?
bondog
Feb 23rd 2003, 6:13 pm
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bondog wrote:
> We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
> to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
> difference ($640).
What are your dates?
> Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
> return flight?
I skipped a leg and it was a major issue to fly the remaining segment - took
about 2 hours of negotiation. That was almost a decade ago. These days
they're much more sticklerish.
miguel
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> We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
> to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
> difference ($640).
What are your dates?
> Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
> return flight?
I skipped a leg and it was a major issue to fly the remaining segment - took
about 2 hours of negotiation. That was almost a decade ago. These days
they're much more sticklerish.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Feb 24th 2003, 2:27 am
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[email protected] (bondog) wrote:
> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
you cannot do this -- if the first leg is not flown the back leg is
cancelled [you can probably get away with the reverse i.e. fly the
front leg and simply not use the last half -- technically, they can
charge you a one way -- but it is not likely to happen]
[email protected] (bondog) wrote:
> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
you cannot do this -- if the first leg is not flown the back leg is
cancelled [you can probably get away with the reverse i.e. fly the
front leg and simply not use the last half -- technically, they can
charge you a one way -- but it is not likely to happen]
Feb 24th 2003, 4:25 am
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:10:41 GMT, Frank Matthews
wrote:
>In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
>traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
>gave up on the ticket.
You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
>traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
>gave up on the ticket.
You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Feb 24th 2003, 4:31 am
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On 23 Feb 2003 22:44:44 -0800, [email protected] (bondog) wrote:
>We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
>to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
>difference ($640).
>Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
>Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
>return flight?
Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
tickets had been cancelled.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
>We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
>to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
>difference ($640).
>Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
>Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
>return flight?
Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
tickets had been cancelled.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Feb 24th 2003, 7:58 am
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"Hatunen" skrev i meddelandet
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> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:10:41 GMT, Frank Matthews
> wrote:
> >In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
> >traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
> >gave up on the ticket.
> You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
> want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
> the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
I know it works that way. But could be interesting to know if it's legally
approved in a court?
If you buy a basket of apples in the grocery and throw away some not desired
fruits, is the shop owner allowed to charge you for the individual fruits ?
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> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:10:41 GMT, Frank Matthews
> wrote:
> >In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
> >traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
> >gave up on the ticket.
> You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
> want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
> the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
I know it works that way. But could be interesting to know if it's legally
approved in a court?
If you buy a basket of apples in the grocery and throw away some not desired
fruits, is the shop owner allowed to charge you for the individual fruits ?
Feb 24th 2003, 9:08 am
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:58:41 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
wrote:
>"Hatunen" skrev i meddelandet
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>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:10:41 GMT, Frank Matthews
>> wrote:
>> >In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
>> >traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
>> >gave up on the ticket.
>> You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
>> want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
>> the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
>I know it works that way. But could be interesting to know if it's legally
>approved in a court?
>If you buy a basket of apples in the grocery and throw away some not desired
>fruits, is the shop owner allowed to charge you for the individual fruits ?
What do the terms and conditions for the fruit say? With airline
tickets you have terms and conditions that are considered part of your
contract with the airline.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"Hatunen" skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:10:41 GMT, Frank Matthews
>> wrote:
>> >In the unlikely case you are bothered simply say that you got tied up in
>> >traffic and missed the flight. Since it was non refundable you just
>> >gave up on the ticket.
>> You can do that if you use the part from Chicago to Paris and don'w
>> want to use the return part, but that doesn't work if you want to skip
>> the Chi=paris flight and use only the return flight.
>I know it works that way. But could be interesting to know if it's legally
>approved in a court?
>If you buy a basket of apples in the grocery and throw away some not desired
>fruits, is the shop owner allowed to charge you for the individual fruits ?
What do the terms and conditions for the fruit say? With airline
tickets you have terms and conditions that are considered part of your
contract with the airline.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Feb 25th 2003, 12:35 am
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If you are buying a Chicago - Paris - Chicago ticket and
do not use the Chicago to Paris portion, you will probably
find that the Paris to Chicago reservation will be
cancelled. When the first leg of a ticket is not used,
the rest of the reservation is generally cancelled.
On 23 Feb 2003, bondog wrote:
> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
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do not use the Chicago to Paris portion, you will probably
find that the Paris to Chicago reservation will be
cancelled. When the first leg of a ticket is not used,
the rest of the reservation is generally cancelled.
On 23 Feb 2003, bondog wrote:
> For financial reasons, I would like to buy a round trip Chicago to
> Paris, but only use the Paris to Chicago leg. Will I have any
> problems checking in at CDG? Is there a legal issue?
> Thanks in advance.
> bondog
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Katherine Becker "As god is my witness
I thought turkeys could fly"
NEVER SEND A FERRET TO DO A WEASEL's JOB --WKRP
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 1st 2003, 12:46 am
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
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> On 23 Feb 2003 22:44:44 -0800, [email protected] (bondog) wrote:
> >We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
> >to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
> >difference ($640).
> >
> >Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
> In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
> round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
That's because the fare is based on what the public is
willing to pay and other market related conditions,
not on the distance flown.
> >Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
> >return flight?
> Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
> actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
> Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
> tickets had been cancelled.
I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
prove that you actually took the first leg.
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> On 23 Feb 2003 22:44:44 -0800, [email protected] (bondog) wrote:
> >We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
> >to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
> >difference ($640).
> >
> >Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
> In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
> round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
That's because the fare is based on what the public is
willing to pay and other market related conditions,
not on the distance flown.
> >Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
> >return flight?
> Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
> actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
> Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
> tickets had been cancelled.
I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
prove that you actually took the first leg.
Mar 1st 2003, 5:00 am
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On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:46:32 GMT, "Stephen C. Gallagher"
wrote:
>"Hatunen" wrote in message
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>> On 23 Feb 2003 22:44:44 -0800, [email protected] (bondog) wrote:
>> >We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
>> >to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
>> >difference ($640).
>> >
>> >Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
>> In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
>> round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
>That's because the fare is based on what the public is
>willing to pay and other market related conditions,
>not on the distance flown.
>> >Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
>> >return flight?
>> Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
>> actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
>> Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
>> tickets had been cancelled.
>I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
>flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
>passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
>if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
>did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
>prove that you actually took the first leg.
How about our previous boarding passes?
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"Hatunen" wrote in message
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>> On 23 Feb 2003 22:44:44 -0800, [email protected] (bondog) wrote:
>> >We have to fly Air France. RT Chicago to Paris costs $360, RT Paris
>> >to Chicago is $520. Multiply by 4 and you've got quite a bit of a
>> >difference ($640).
>> >
>> >Which cheap tickets are you referring to, pray tell.
>> In general, round trip tickets from Europe to the USA are cheaper than
>> round trip tickets from the USA to Europe. Go figure.
>That's because the fare is based on what the public is
>willing to pay and other market related conditions,
>not on the distance flown.
>> >Has anyone had the actual experience of the airline canceling their
>> >return flight?
>> Through a major mixup that we eventually got resolved (since we had
>> actually used the first part of our tickets) we once arrived at
>> Heathrow for our return flight on British Airways only to find our
>> tickets had been cancelled.
>I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
>flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
>passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
>if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
>did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
>prove that you actually took the first leg.
How about our previous boarding passes?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Mar 1st 2003, 5:13 am
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Stephen C. Gallagher wrote:
> I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
> flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
> passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
> if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
> did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
> prove that you actually took the first leg.
Yes, but what if you could show you only had the stub of the boarding pass
because the main part had been torn off? They can't argue with that!
Okay, kidding. How about a luggage check tag stapled to your ticket
envelope?
miguel
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> I'd hate to have to be able to prove that I took the first leg of a
> flight. On an international flight you might be able to show
> passport stamps for the correct dates and cities, but otherwise,
> if an airline said that you didn't take the first leg, and you really
> did, how else would you prove it? A boarding pass doesn't
> prove that you actually took the first leg.
Yes, but what if you could show you only had the stub of the boarding pass
because the main part had been torn off? They can't argue with that!
Okay, kidding. How about a luggage check tag stapled to your ticket
envelope?
miguel
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Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
