About the French riots
Nov 11th 2005, 3:04 am
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Re: About the French riots
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:59:49 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>[email protected] writes:
>> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>Ill-behaved, angry young males have been using marginalization and
>other excuses for their violent ways for a hundred times longer.
I haven't heard any making excuses.
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wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>Ill-behaved, angry young males have been using marginalization and
>other excuses for their violent ways for a hundred times longer.
I haven't heard any making excuses.
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Martin
Nov 11th 2005, 3:04 am
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Re: About the French riots
On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>> >>
>> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>> >recently ?
>> For a long time.
>> The problem is with second generation youths.
>on a French scale ?
or even an Imperial scale.
There have been riots in other countries.
--
Martin
>Martin wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>> >>
>> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>> >recently ?
>> For a long time.
>> The problem is with second generation youths.
>on a French scale ?
or even an Imperial scale.
There have been riots in other countries.
--
Martin
Nov 11th 2005, 3:11 am
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Re: About the French riots
Martin wrote:
> On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin wrote:
> >> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> >> >>
> >> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> >>
> >> >recently ?
> >>
> >> For a long time.
> >>
> >> The problem is with second generation youths.
> >on a French scale ?
> or even an Imperial scale.
>
> There have been riots in other countries.
> --
> Martin
Belgium ?
> On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Martin wrote:
> >> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> >> >>
> >> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> >>
> >> >recently ?
> >>
> >> For a long time.
> >>
> >> The problem is with second generation youths.
> >on a French scale ?
> or even an Imperial scale.
>
> There have been riots in other countries.
> --
> Martin
Belgium ?
Nov 11th 2005, 3:32 am
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On 11 Nov 2005 08:11:22 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin wrote:
>> >> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>> >>
>> >> >recently ?
>> >>
>> >> For a long time.
>> >>
>> >> The problem is with second generation youths.
>> >on a French scale ?
>> or even an Imperial scale.
>>
>> There have been riots in other countries.
>> --
>> Martin
>Belgium ?
England.
--
Martin
>Martin wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Martin wrote:
>> >> On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>> >>
>> >> >recently ?
>> >>
>> >> For a long time.
>> >>
>> >> The problem is with second generation youths.
>> >on a French scale ?
>> or even an Imperial scale.
>>
>> There have been riots in other countries.
>> --
>> Martin
>Belgium ?
England.
--
Martin
Nov 11th 2005, 5:12 am
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Re: About the French riots
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> Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>
> you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> line.
> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
I already know that. Have you ever heard of "Gremlins"? I can inform you
if you haven't. They are a section of marginalized immigrant French youth
that most French have never heard of. I have met some in person. In a
place most people, even French, don't go.
I am not confusing anything with anything. When I talked about
Schadenfreude, I was thinking about what I know, and what the original
poster doesn't even begin to understand.
Donna Evleth
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> Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>
> you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> line.
> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
I already know that. Have you ever heard of "Gremlins"? I can inform you
if you haven't. They are a section of marginalized immigrant French youth
that most French have never heard of. I have met some in person. In a
place most people, even French, don't go.
I am not confusing anything with anything. When I talked about
Schadenfreude, I was thinking about what I know, and what the original
poster doesn't even begin to understand.
Donna Evleth
Donna Evleth
Nov 11th 2005, 5:27 am
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Donna Evleth wrote:
> > From: [email protected]
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> > soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.fr
> > ench
> > Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> > Subject: Re: About the French riots
> >
> > you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> > A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> > line.
> > Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> I already know that.
so the original poster is only stating a fact
> > From: [email protected]
> > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> > Newsgroups:
> > soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.fr
> > ench
> > Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> > Subject: Re: About the French riots
> >
> > you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> > A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> > line.
> > Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> I already know that.
so the original poster is only stating a fact
Nov 11th 2005, 10:06 am
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> > >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> >
> > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > --
> > Martin
.................................................. ..........................
................................
Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
and who now are considered as National of those countries.
I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family names),
quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
retired/uk.
> >
> > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > --
> > Martin
.................................................. ..........................
................................
Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
and who now are considered as National of those countries.
I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family names),
quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
retired/uk.
Nov 11th 2005, 6:36 pm
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Retired wrote:
> > > >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> > >
> > > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > > --
> > > Martin
> >
> .................................................. ..........................
> ................................
> Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
> Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
> and who now are considered as National of those countries.
> I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
> look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family names),
> quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
> What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
> is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
> with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
> I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
>
> retired/uk.
or anyone with a useful skill who is willing to use it
> > > >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> > >
> > > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > > --
> > > Martin
> >
> .................................................. ..........................
> ................................
> Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
> Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
> and who now are considered as National of those countries.
> I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
> look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family names),
> quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
> What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
> is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
> with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
> I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
>
> retired/uk.
or anyone with a useful skill who is willing to use it
Nov 11th 2005, 9:40 pm
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Re: About the French riots
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> Date: 11 Nov 2005 10:27:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.
>>> fr
>>> ench
>>> Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>>>
>>> you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
>>> A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
>>> line.
>>> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>
>> I already know that.
>
> so the original poster is only stating a fact
That is true. But the original poster's insinuation was that I did not know
that fact.
Donna Evleth
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> Date: 11 Nov 2005 10:27:05 -0800
> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.
>>> fr
>>> ench
>>> Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: About the French riots
>>>
>>> you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
>>> A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
>>> line.
>>> Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>
>> I already know that.
>
> so the original poster is only stating a fact
That is true. But the original poster's insinuation was that I did not know
that fact.
Donna Evleth
>
Nov 11th 2005, 9:52 pm
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:06:58 -0000, "Retired"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
Unless you are a non Polish plumber/electrician/carpenter ...
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't think we have too much to fear from Polish plumbers.
Unless you are a non Polish plumber/electrician/carpenter ...
--
Martin
Nov 13th 2005, 1:40 pm
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"Retired" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> > > >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> > >
> > > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > > --
> > > Martin
> >
.................................................. ..........................
> ................................
> Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
> Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
> and who now are considered as National of those countries.
> I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
> look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family
names),
> quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
> What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
> is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
> with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
Which kind of problems do you have?
--
Luigi Donatello Asero
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en...nque-terre.php
news:[email protected]...
> > > >Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> > >
> > > and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
> > > --
> > > Martin
> >
.................................................. ..........................
> ................................
> Most european countries have accepted immigrants.
> Immigrants that have integrated, and were quickly accepted
> and who now are considered as National of those countries.
> I'm thinking of all the people, who not only speak, act, feel like,
> look like the British (though proud of their old _ foreign _ family
names),
> quite a few of our politicians are fairly recent immigrants.
> What is NOT said or mentioned by our politicians
> is that our problems are mainly with the Muslims and
> with the large influx of unwanted people from Africa.
Which kind of problems do you have?
--
Luigi Donatello Asero
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en...nque-terre.php
Nov 14th 2005, 8:15 am
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[email protected] wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>
>>On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>>>>>and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>>>>>recently ?
>>>>For a long time.
>>>>The problem is with second generation youths.
>>>on a French scale ?
>>or even an Imperial scale.
>>There have been riots in other countries.
>>--
>>Martin
>
>
> Belgium ?
>
There were riots in Brussels about 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing comparable.
Police harassment was cited as the spark.
M
> Martin wrote:
>
>>On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>>>>>and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>>>>>recently ?
>>>>For a long time.
>>>>The problem is with second generation youths.
>>>on a French scale ?
>>or even an Imperial scale.
>>There have been riots in other countries.
>>--
>>Martin
>
>
> Belgium ?
>
There were riots in Brussels about 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing comparable.
Police harassment was cited as the spark.
M
Nov 14th 2005, 8:47 am
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Donna Evleth a �crit :
> > From: [email protected]
> > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> > Newsgroups:
> > soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.fr
> > ench
> > Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> > Subject: Re: About the French riots
> >
> > you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> > A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> > line.
> > Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> I already know that. Have you ever heard of "Gremlins"?
No. Who are they ?
didier Meurgues
I can inform you
> if you haven't. They are a section of marginalized immigrant French youth
> that most French have never heard of. I have met some in person. In a
> place most people, even French, don't go.
> I am not confusing anything with anything. When I talked about
> Schadenfreude, I was thinking about what I know, and what the original
> poster doesn't even begin to understand.
>
> Donna Evleth
>
> Donna Evleth
> > From: [email protected]
> > Organization: http://groups.google.com
> > Newsgroups:
> > soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,alt.france,rec. travel.europe,soc.culture.fr
> > ench
> > Date: 11 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800
> > Subject: Re: About the French riots
> >
> > you are confusing 'schadenfreude' with 'reality'.
> > A cat 5 hurricane was approaching New Orleans, which is below the water
> > line.
> > Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
> I already know that. Have you ever heard of "Gremlins"?
No. Who are they ?
didier Meurgues
I can inform you
> if you haven't. They are a section of marginalized immigrant French youth
> that most French have never heard of. I have met some in person. In a
> place most people, even French, don't go.
> I am not confusing anything with anything. When I talked about
> Schadenfreude, I was thinking about what I know, and what the original
> poster doesn't even begin to understand.
>
> Donna Evleth
>
> Donna Evleth
Nov 14th 2005, 8:57 am
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:15:53 +0100, Michael <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>>>On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>>On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>>>>>>and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>>>>>>recently ?
>>>>>For a long time.
>>>>>The problem is with second generation youths.
>>>>on a French scale ?
>>>or even an Imperial scale.
>>>There have been riots in other countries.
>> Belgium ?
>>
>There were riots in Brussels about 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing comparable.
>Police harassment was cited as the spark.
There have been similar disturbances, to those in France, in Belgium
in the last 7 days.
--
Martin
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>>>On 11 Nov 2005 07:56:32 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>>On 11 Nov 2005 06:56:44 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>Immigrant French youth has been marginalized for a long time.
>>>>>>>and British, Belgian, German, Danish and Dutch youths too
>>>>>>recently ?
>>>>>For a long time.
>>>>>The problem is with second generation youths.
>>>>on a French scale ?
>>>or even an Imperial scale.
>>>There have been riots in other countries.
>> Belgium ?
>>
>There were riots in Brussels about 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing comparable.
>Police harassment was cited as the spark.
There have been similar disturbances, to those in France, in Belgium
in the last 7 days.
--
Martin
