700 Euros excess baggage ripoff
Jun 24th 2003, 1:59 am
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700 Euros excess baggage ripoff
I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling
to Perth on economy ticket.
She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
This is way more than I have ever been charged.
I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
been charged three times what she should have been.
What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when
you are in different country?
to Perth on economy ticket.
She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
This is way more than I have ever been charged.
I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
been charged three times what she should have been.
What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when
you are in different country?
Jun 24th 2003, 4:12 am
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ms wrote:
> I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling
> to Perth on economy ticket.
> She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
> This is way more than I have ever been charged.
> I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
> excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
> which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
> been charged three times what she should have been.
What is the one-way economy fare? The rate of 700 euros implies that it was
2333 euros, which actually does seem plausible.
I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
with a few minutes of hassle.
> What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in different
> country?
I think your best shot is really before they get the money.
miguel
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> I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling
> to Perth on economy ticket.
> She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
> This is way more than I have ever been charged.
> I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
> excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
> which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
> been charged three times what she should have been.
What is the one-way economy fare? The rate of 700 euros implies that it was
2333 euros, which actually does seem plausible.
I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
with a few minutes of hassle.
> What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in different
> country?
I think your best shot is really before they get the money.
miguel
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Jun 24th 2003, 7:57 am
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"Miguel Cruz" skrev i meddelandet
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> ms wrote:
> > I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling
> > to Perth on economy ticket.
> > She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
> > This is way more than I have ever been charged.
> > I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
> > excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
> > which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
> > been charged three times what she should have been.
> What is the one-way economy fare? The rate of 700 euros implies that it
was
> 2333 euros, which actually does seem plausible.
> I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
> with a few minutes of hassle.
> > What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in
different
> > country?
> I think your best shot is really before they get the money.
> miguel
> --
> Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
> Latest photos: Maldives, Dubai and Vietnam
From SAS site:
Excess baggage
Excess baggage charges on SAS flights routes where the Weight Concept
applies are based a percentage (1-1.5%) of the normal economy class fare.
Generally I think most airlines charge the same.
From the same site I can read out that full price economy Frankfurt-Perth is
38842SEK or about Euro 4300 or British Airways Euro 3268 so the 700 euros
charged seem to be more or less according to the normal advertised rules.
sorry for the OP but full price flights are that expensive and as the
luggage rules are clear advertised I think there's little hope for any
refund.
L.P
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> ms wrote:
> > I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling
> > to Perth on economy ticket.
> > She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess baggage!
> > This is way more than I have ever been charged.
> > I checked the website of this airline, and it says the fee per
> > excess kilogram is 1.5% of the one-way economy fare,
> > which sounds more reasonable to me. I estimate she has
> > been charged three times what she should have been.
> What is the one-way economy fare? The rate of 700 euros implies that it
was
> 2333 euros, which actually does seem plausible.
> I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
> with a few minutes of hassle.
> > What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in
different
> > country?
> I think your best shot is really before they get the money.
> miguel
> --
> Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
> Latest photos: Maldives, Dubai and Vietnam
From SAS site:
Excess baggage
Excess baggage charges on SAS flights routes where the Weight Concept
applies are based a percentage (1-1.5%) of the normal economy class fare.
Generally I think most airlines charge the same.
From the same site I can read out that full price economy Frankfurt-Perth is
38842SEK or about Euro 4300 or British Airways Euro 3268 so the 700 euros
charged seem to be more or less according to the normal advertised rules.
sorry for the OP but full price flights are that expensive and as the
luggage rules are clear advertised I think there's little hope for any
refund.
L.P
Jun 24th 2003, 1:59 pm
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(ms) wrote
>I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling to Perth
>on economy ticket. She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess
>baggage! This is way more than I have ever been charged. I checked the
>website of this airline, and it says the fee per excess kilogram is
>1.5% of the one-way economy fare, which sounds more reasonable to me.
>I estimate she has been charged three times what she should have been.
>What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in
>different country?
Sadly, the time to have done the research was BEFORE travel.
>I got a message from my wife at Frankfurt airport, travelling to Perth
>on economy ticket. She has been charged 700 Euros for 20 kg excess
>baggage! This is way more than I have ever been charged. I checked the
>website of this airline, and it says the fee per excess kilogram is
>1.5% of the one-way economy fare, which sounds more reasonable to me.
>I estimate she has been charged three times what she should have been.
>What chance getting a refund from these bandits, when you are in
>different country?
Sadly, the time to have done the research was BEFORE travel.
Jun 24th 2003, 8:18 pm
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Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like to
add the following:
>I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
>stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
>while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
>with a few minutes of hassle.
Exactly.
And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then transfer
to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company trip on
expenses.
Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
check-in counter.
Cheers,
Chanchao
stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like to
add the following:
>I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
>stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
>while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put up
>with a few minutes of hassle.
Exactly.
And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then transfer
to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company trip on
expenses.
Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
check-in counter.
Cheers,
Chanchao
Jun 25th 2003, 2:59 am
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what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
"Chanchao" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
to
> add the following:
> >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
up
> >with a few minutes of hassle.
> Exactly.
> And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
transfer
> to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
trip on
> expenses.
> Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> check-in counter.
> Cheers,
> Chanchao
.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
"Chanchao" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
to
> add the following:
> >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
up
> >with a few minutes of hassle.
> Exactly.
> And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
transfer
> to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
trip on
> expenses.
> Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> check-in counter.
> Cheers,
> Chanchao
Jun 25th 2003, 3:45 am
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Christopher wrote:
> "Chanchao" wrote:
>> And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
>> transfer to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
>> I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
>> trip on expenses.
>> Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
>> check-in counter.
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
And if everyone in a giant building flushes the toilet at the same time...?
miguel
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> "Chanchao" wrote:
>> And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
>> transfer to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
>> I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
>> trip on expenses.
>> Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
>> check-in counter.
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
And if everyone in a giant building flushes the toilet at the same time...?
miguel
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Jun 25th 2003, 4:57 am
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In article ,
Miguel Cruz wrote:
>Christopher wrote:
>> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
Miguel Cruz wrote:
>Christopher wrote:
>> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
Jun 25th 2003, 5:12 am
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Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article ,
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
>>Christopher wrote:
>>>what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>>>.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
>
> I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
10 metric tons
> In article ,
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
>>Christopher wrote:
>>>what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>>>.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
>
> I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
10 metric tons
Jun 25th 2003, 6:08 am
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"Christopher" wrote in message news:...
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
well, if we're talking about morons, 1 tonne wouldn't
hardly be noticed. Now 20 kg * 500 = 10 tonne, which,
by the by is about 3% of the take off weight of the 747.
The pilot MIGHT notice this.
Futhermore, in terms of moronic scenarios, when was the last
time all 500 passengers on an aircraft did ANYTHING the same short
of breath?
> "Chanchao" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> > stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
> to
> > add the following:
> >
> > >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> > >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> > >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
> up
> > >with a few minutes of hassle.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
> transfer
> > to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> >
> > I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
> trip on
> > expenses.
> >
> > Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> > check-in counter.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chanchao
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
well, if we're talking about morons, 1 tonne wouldn't
hardly be noticed. Now 20 kg * 500 = 10 tonne, which,
by the by is about 3% of the take off weight of the 747.
The pilot MIGHT notice this.
Futhermore, in terms of moronic scenarios, when was the last
time all 500 passengers on an aircraft did ANYTHING the same short
of breath?
> "Chanchao" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> > stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
> to
> > add the following:
> >
> > >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> > >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> > >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
> up
> > >with a few minutes of hassle.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
> transfer
> > to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> >
> > I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
> trip on
> > expenses.
> >
> > Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> > check-in counter.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chanchao
Jun 25th 2003, 6:14 am
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:57:26 GMT, [email protected] (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
>In article ,
>Miguel Cruz wrote:
>>Christopher wrote:
>>> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>>> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
>I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
the thing is that in theory could happen but in reality hardly ever
does. Like I remember once I was going "with just" a carry on bag.
Whilst the person on the next counter was 10kg over weight. Since I
am not using my allowance they actually have 20kg to spare, but
instead of waiver the fee they still wanted to charge the 10kg
allowance. hence made quite a bit of profit there.
McCormack) wrote:
>In article ,
>Miguel Cruz wrote:
>>Christopher wrote:
>>> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>>> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
>I think that would be 11 tons. You do the math.
the thing is that in theory could happen but in reality hardly ever
does. Like I remember once I was going "with just" a carry on bag.
Whilst the person on the next counter was 10kg over weight. Since I
am not using my allowance they actually have 20kg to spare, but
instead of waiver the fee they still wanted to charge the 10kg
allowance. hence made quite a bit of profit there.
Jun 25th 2003, 6:16 am
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"Christopher" wrote in message news:...
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
well, if we're talking about morons, 1 tonne wouldn't
hardly be noticed. Now 20 kg * 500 = 10 tonne, which,
by the by is about 3% of the take off weight of the 747.
The pilot MIGHT notice this.
Futhermore, in terms of moronic scenarios, when was the last
time all 500 passengers on an aircraft did ANYTHING the same short
of breath?
> "Chanchao" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> > stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
> to
> > add the following:
> >
> > >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> > >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> > >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
> up
> > >with a few minutes of hassle.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
> transfer
> > to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> >
> > I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
> trip on
> > expenses.
> >
> > Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> > check-in counter.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chanchao
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
well, if we're talking about morons, 1 tonne wouldn't
hardly be noticed. Now 20 kg * 500 = 10 tonne, which,
by the by is about 3% of the take off weight of the 747.
The pilot MIGHT notice this.
Futhermore, in terms of moronic scenarios, when was the last
time all 500 passengers on an aircraft did ANYTHING the same short
of breath?
> "Chanchao" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:12:43 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote some
> > stuff about "Re: 700 Euros excess baggage ripoff", to which I would like
> to
> > add the following:
> >
> > >I think in that situation I would have put on an awful lot of clothes and
> > >stuffed some heavy things into my coat pockets. They only have to be worn
> > >while walking down the jetway into the plane; for 700 euros I could put
> up
> > >with a few minutes of hassle.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > And stuff lots of heavy things in bags to be kept out of sight. Then
> transfer
> > to a 'duty free' bag after check-in to cause less suspicion.
> >
> > I'd move heaven and hell to get this done free, EVEN when on a company
> trip on
> > expenses.
> >
> > Needless to say, retreat out of sight first and then go to a different
> > check-in counter.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chanchao
Jun 25th 2003, 7:35 am
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"Christopher" wrote in message news:...
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
And the problem is...?
By the way, a 747 on a normal 3 class configuration is more like 400 passengers.
- Manuel.
> what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
> .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
And the problem is...?
By the way, a 747 on a normal 3 class configuration is more like 400 passengers.
- Manuel.
Jun 25th 2003, 8:39 am
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:59:49 +0000 (UTC), "Christopher"
wrote:
>what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
I agree. That's a 52kg /115lb bag. They will have to special handle
it everywhere. the purpose of the fee is to keep luggage of that
weight away with an unacceptably high penalty.
As I have posted frequently, I bring back 4-6 32kg boxes from Italy as
excess baggage. If I could get away with 52kg boxes for the same
price(about €75-100 each), I'd have them packed to 52kg. It would
take 2 people instead of one to manage each.
wrote:
>what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do this
>.... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
I agree. That's a 52kg /115lb bag. They will have to special handle
it everywhere. the purpose of the fee is to keep luggage of that
weight away with an unacceptably high penalty.
As I have posted frequently, I bring back 4-6 32kg boxes from Italy as
excess baggage. If I could get away with 52kg boxes for the same
price(about €75-100 each), I'd have them packed to 52kg. It would
take 2 people instead of one to manage each.
Jun 25th 2003, 9:11 am
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"Manuel Freitas" wrote in message
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> "Christopher" wrote in message
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> > what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do
this
> > .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
> And the problem is...?
> By the way, a 747 on a normal 3 class configuration is more like 400
passengers.
> - Manuel.
True. Although you can find single-class configs on, for example, Japanese
domestic routes, that have up to 528 seats...
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> "Christopher" wrote in message
news:...
> > what a total moron ............... so if all 500 passengers on a 747 do
this
> > .... 20 kgs x 500 = 1 tonne !
> And the problem is...?
> By the way, a 747 on a normal 3 class configuration is more like 400
passengers.
> - Manuel.
True. Although you can find single-class configs on, for example, Japanese
domestic routes, that have up to 528 seats...
