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Old Jun 13th 2005, 11:36 pm
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Mike Azzopardi
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Hi all

Just want to check 2 things on the venice vaporetti before I go.

1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
Square?
2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon islands,
or do I need a seperate ticket for that?

Thanks so much in advance!

Best Regards
Mike

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Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:06 am
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Padraig Breathnach
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"Mike Azzopardi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hi all
    >Just want to check 2 things on the venice vaporetti before I go.
    >1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
    >Square?
Yes (but it's a vaporetto; vaporetti is the plural)

    >2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon islands,
    >or do I need a seperate ticket for that?
Yes (to the first question)

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Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:08 am
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    >>>>> 1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St
    >>>>> Marks Square?

The Alilaguna boat from the airport http://www.alilaguna.it/ doesn't go down
the Grand Canal--it just traverses the lagoon--stopping at Murano and Lido
before crossing over to San Marco (taking over an hour). If you want to
arrive in San Marco via the Grand Canal you could take the express bus from
the airport to Piazzale Roma (20 minute ride) http://tinyurl.com/2lbbg and
then pick up vapo #82 from Piazzale Roma to San Marco http://www.actv.it/ .

    >>>> 2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon
    >>>> islands, or do I need a seperate ticket for that?

The 3-day pass includes Lido, Murano, Burano, and Torcello.
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:09 am
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Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
    >>Square?
    >Yes (but it's a vaporetto; vaporetti is the plural)
Oops! I didn't read the question carefully enough. Douglas is right.

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Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:11 am
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Mike Azzopardi
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Thanks all! That really helps!

Mike
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"Mike Azzopardi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi all
    > Just want to check 2 things on the venice vaporetti before I go.
    > 1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
    > Square?
    > 2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon islands,
    > or do I need a seperate ticket for that?
    > Thanks so much in advance!
    > Best Regards
    > Mike
    > http://www.soundclick.com/bluemenagerie
    > "We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams"
    >
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:13 am
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Zichu
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"Mike Azzopardi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<< Just want to check 2 things on the venice vaporetti before I go.

1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
Square?
2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon islands,
or do I need a seperate ticket for that?>>

Have a look at www.alilaguna.com and http://www.venicecard.com/cose_eng.jsp

A three day blue Venice Card seems to cover the Aliliguna trip from the
airport which, indeed, goes to St Marks (Either Giardinetti or San Zaccaria)

It also covers trips to Murano Burano and Torcello.

The 41 and 42 run around Venice in opposite directions and also go out to
Murano. The "DM" from Piazzale Roma, goes direct to Murano also. The easiest
way to Burano or Torcello is to get the 41/42 or 51/52 and get off at
Fondementa Nuove(Opposite the cemetery island of San Michele). There is a
direct line to Burano and a local link from there to Torcello. They go about
every half hour. It should all be included in your Venice Card Blu.

I was there two weeks ago and that was the situation but they change the
routes at the drop of a hat. Apparently they recently made major changes the
day before they published a new route map of the old routes. You should
check at least two sources before believing them.
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:22 am
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"Mike Azzopardi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal
    > to St Marks Square?
    > 2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon
    > islands, or do I need a seperate ticket for that?
    > Thanks so much in advance!
-------------------
There's a free shuttle from the terminal to the Aliliguna (vaporetto)
dock. Its 10 Euro per person from the Airport to St. Marks. It
takes about an hour, but IMO, a much better way to arrive/depart
if you have luggage than standing, crammed in like sardines in one
of the Grand Canal vaporetti. Check out http://www.alilaguna.it/

Passes are good on all ACTV (city) vaporetti, including lagoon
islands, but not on the Aliliguna boats.

The Venice train station website has some interesting links. Check
out: http://www.veneziasantalucia.com/indexf.cfm . =R=
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 12:54 am
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"Zichu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Mike Azzopardi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > << Just want to check 2 things on the venice vaporetti before I go.
    > 1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St
Marks
    > Square?
    > 2. Does the 3 day vaporettis passes allow you to go to the lagoon
islands,
    > or do I need a seperate ticket for that?>>
    > Have a look at www.alilaguna.com and
http://www.venicecard.com/cose_eng.jsp
    > A three day blue Venice Card seems to cover the Aliliguna trip from the
    > airport which, indeed, goes to St Marks (Either Giardinetti or San
Zaccaria)
    > It also covers trips to Murano Burano and Torcello.
    > The 41 and 42 run around Venice in opposite directions and also go out to
    > Murano. The "DM" from Piazzale Roma, goes direct to Murano also. The
easiest
    > way to Burano or Torcello is to get the 41/42 or 51/52 and get off at
    > Fondementa Nuove(Opposite the cemetery island of San Michele). There is a
    > direct line to Burano and a local link from there to Torcello. They go
about
    > every half hour. It should all be included in your Venice Card Blu.
    > I was there two weeks ago and that was the situation but they change the
    > routes at the drop of a hat. Apparently they recently made major changes
the
    > day before they published a new route map of the old routes.

Why ?
Roadworks ?
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 1:22 am
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Zichu
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"Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<< Passes are good on all ACTV (city) vaporetti, including lagoon
islands, but not on the Aliliguna boats.>>

You might well be correct. As I intimated in my previous post, all is not
what it seems in Italy.

Here is a direct quote lifted from the VeniceCard site:

//IF YOU ARRIVE BY PLANE
You can buy VENICEcard which includes the Alilaguna shuttle service by
motoboat, to and from the airport on arrival and departure.//
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 9:17 am
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"Zichu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Rog'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected].. .
    > << Passes are good on all ACTV (city) vaporetti, including lagoon
    > islands, but not on the Aliliguna boats.>>
    > You might well be correct. As I intimated in my previous post, all is not
    > what it seems in Italy.
    > Here is a direct quote lifted from the VeniceCard site:
    > //IF YOU ARRIVE BY PLANE
    > You can buy VENICEcard which includes the Alilaguna shuttle service by
    > motoboat, to and from the airport on arrival and departure.//

This is, however, a tourist-oriented card, possibly worthwhile in including
access to some museums, but much more expensive than ordinary ACTV passes.
You may find these at
http://www.actv.it/english/navigazio...iffe_vaporetto

Alan Harrison
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 9:37 am
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Rog
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"Zichu" <[email protected]> wrote:...
    > ... Here is a direct quote lifted from the VeniceCard site:
    > //IF YOU ARRIVE BY PLANE. You can buy VENICEcard
    > which includes the Alilaguna shuttle service by motoboat, to
    > and from the airport on arrival and departure.//

My comment was that the 24 or 72-hour ACTV passes do not
include Aliliguna. Your comment about the VeniceCard is a
separate and unrelated issue, to wit...

Venice Cards (orange+blue, my college's school colors) include
the Aliliguna boats, but only (it appears) if you select that as an
add-on for which you pay a supplement that, strangely enuff, is
the same amount as the fare you would pay at the Aliliguna dock.
These are sold by VELA and, even if you reserve cards (as I did),
you may arrive to find their office closed (as I did). So, we said,
"Screw 'em" and bought ACTV passes instead.

The ACTV passes cover slow boats only, not Aliliguna. For us,
they turned out to be a better deal. We paid for Dodge's Palace,
the altar in St. Mark's, restrooms on Burano (50c), the Aliliguna,
separately, and came out ahead. =R=
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 10:08 am
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"ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<< This is, however, a tourist-oriented card, possibly worthwhile in
including
access to some museums, but much more expensive than ordinary ACTV passes.
You may find these at
http://www.actv.it/english/navigazione.php?pagina=tariffe_vaporetto>>

You probably missed the bit where it says:

//The "CartaVenezia" fare was introduced for people travelling frequently on
Actv's water buses, and applies to passengers holding a "CartaVenezia"
document, to which only residents in the Veneto Region are entitled. The
"CartaVenezia costs ? 8,00 and is valid for three years. It can be bought by
producing a valid document certifying residence. A passport-size photo must
be attached to the application form.//

Not a lot of people visiting Venice, and who post requests for information
on this NG, can supply a valid document certifying residence in the Veneto
Region.

I had a CartaVenezia when I stayed there about 10 years ago but it is now no
longer possible to get one unless you are a genuine resident of the Region.

The blu card cost me Euro 51.00 for seven days and, IMHO, was cheap at the
price. It gives access to all the Actv's services in addition to free use of
toilets. No museums. Apart from the convenience of being able to hop on and
off different lines, it saves having to make a major project out of getting
around the lagoon.

I have to say that if it were that important to me to save 10 cents, or
whatever currency you use, on buying the most economical ticket for the trip
from the airport, I wouldn't have gone to Venice but to Florida or some
other cheapo destination.
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 8:07 pm
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"Zichu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "ALAN HARRISON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > You probably missed the bit where it says:
    > //The "CartaVenezia" fare was introduced for people travelling frequently
    > on Actv's water buses, and applies to passengers holding a "CartaVenezia"
    > document, to which only residents in the Veneto Region are entitled.

No, I didn't miss that bit. Holders of a Carta Venezia get a reduction on
ticket prices, but ACTV's ordinary tickets and passes (going on my
experience some years ago) are cheaper than those advertised for the
VeniceCard. It may, however, be worthwhile purchasing one if the museum
entry fees will be a significant part of the OP's costs for his trip.

Alan Harrison
 
Old Jun 14th 2005, 8:27 pm
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach

    >>>1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
    >>>Square?
    >>Yes (but it's a vaporetto; vaporetti is the plural)
    >Oops! I didn't read the question carefully enough. Douglas is right.

Is he? "A vaporetti" sounds odd to me, but I can see how it makes
sense, I suppose cross language grammar rules are going to be
difficult. Perhaps we need Magda to ajudicate.
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Old Jun 14th 2005, 10:03 pm
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Padraig Breathnach
    >>>>1. Can I get a vaporetti from the airport down the grand canal to St Marks
    >>>>Square?
    >>>Yes (but it's a vaporetto; vaporetti is the plural)
    >>Oops! I didn't read the question carefully enough. Douglas is right.
    >Is he? "A vaporetti" sounds odd to me, but I can see how it makes
    >sense, I suppose cross language grammar rules are going to be
    >difficult. Perhaps we need Magda to ajudicate.

It was the "yes" I was withdrawing, not the bit in brackets.

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