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Iraqi leader declares state of emergency

Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault

Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
Falluja.

"The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
wherever is necessary."

The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.

"We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
safety of the people of Iraq," he said.

Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.

Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.

"We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."

Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
national elections, set for January.

Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
city.

Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.

And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.

U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
gunship cannon fire rattling the area.

U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
arms fire could be heard as well.

Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
apart and insurgents solidified control there.

The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.

Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
tanks and attack helicopters.

Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
spokesman said Sunday.

Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.

It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
Alvarez said.
Sunday violence

At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.

At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.

In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
various Islamic movements and scholars.

A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.

In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.

In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
said.

South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
others.
Other developments

* Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.

* The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.

* The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.

CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Robert

Yeah, this is what the right wingers are bragging so much about

Our great triumph in Iraq

The world hates us

There are more terrorists out to do us harm

And they have at least 377,000 tons of explosives to do it

Some victory

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I Am Dubya And I Approve This Message wrote:

    > Iraqi leader declares state of emergency
    >
    > Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault
    >
    > Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)
    >
    > BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
    > declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
    > under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
    > Falluja.
    >
    > "The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
    > approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
    > today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
    > wherever is necessary."
    >
    > The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
    > not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.
    >
    > "We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
    > safety of the people of Iraq," he said.
    >
    > Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
    > emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.
    >
    > Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.
    >
    > "We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
    > clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
    > people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
    > bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
    > were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."
    >
    > Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
    > national elections, set for January.
    >
    > Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
    > Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
    > city.
    >
    > Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
    > population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.
    >
    > And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
    > insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.
    >
    > U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
    > insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
    > offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
    > fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
    > gunship cannon fire rattling the area.
    >
    > U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
    > artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
    > arms fire could be heard as well.
    >
    > Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
    > contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
    > deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
    > to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
    > apart and insurgents solidified control there.
    >
    > The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
    > mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
    > Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.
    >
    > Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
    > tanks and attack helicopters.
    >
    > Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
    > after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
    > spokesman said Sunday.
    >
    > Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
    > U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
    > threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.
    >
    > It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
    > Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
    > Alvarez said.
    > Sunday violence
    >
    > At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
    > Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.
    >
    > At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
    > near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
    > hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.
    >
    > In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
    > of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
    > official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
    > which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
    > attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
    > various Islamic movements and scholars.
    >
    > A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
    > Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.
    >
    > In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
    > military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
    > Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
    > puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
    > including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.
    >
    > In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
    > his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
    > said.
    >
    > South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
    > forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
    > others.
    > Other developments
    >
    > * Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
    > wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.
    >
    > * The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
    > death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.
    >
    > * The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
    > by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
    > killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
    > claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.
    >
    > CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
    > Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
    >
    >

00:00:00Hg

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:43:07 +0000, Robert wrote:

    > The world hates us

Nothing new under the sun.

Yawn.

Runge

Iraq in Europe?
You americans really think the world is interested in the crappy war you're
losing?
Ugh

"I Am Dubya And I Approve This Message" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news: [email protected]er...
    > Iraqi leader declares state of emergency
    > Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault
    > Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)
    > BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
    > declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
    > under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
    > Falluja.
    > "The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
    > approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
    > today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
    > wherever is necessary."
    > The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
    > not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.
    > "We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
    > safety of the people of Iraq," he said.
    > Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
    > emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.
    > Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.
    > "We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
    > clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
    > people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
    > bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
    > were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."
    > Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
    > national elections, set for January.
    > Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
    > Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
    > city.
    > Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
    > population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.
    > And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
    > insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.
    > U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
    > insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
    > offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
    > fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
    > gunship cannon fire rattling the area.
    > U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
    > artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
    > arms fire could be heard as well.
    > Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
    > contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
    > deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
    > to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
    > apart and insurgents solidified control there.
    > The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
    > mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
    > Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.
    > Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
    > tanks and attack helicopters.
    > Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
    > after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
    > spokesman said Sunday.
    > Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
    > U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
    > threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.
    > It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
    > Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
    > Alvarez said.
    > Sunday violence
    > At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
    > Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.
    > At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
    > near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
    > hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.
    > In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
    > of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
    > official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
    > which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
    > attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
    > various Islamic movements and scholars.
    > A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
    > Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.
    > In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
    > military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
    > Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
    > puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
    > including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.
    > In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
    > his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
    > said.
    > South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
    > forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
    > others.
    > Other developments
    > * Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
    > wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.
    > * The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
    > death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.
    > * The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
    > by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
    > killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
    > claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.
    > CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
    > Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
    > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
    >

Runge

It's nice being hated, huh?
Some traveller

"00:00:00Hg" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:43:07 +0000, Robert wrote:
    >> The world hates us
    > Nothing new under the sun.
    > Yawn.
    >

Jeff Hacker

"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Iraq in Europe?
    > You americans really think the world is interested in the crappy war
    > you're losing?

Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
second, we don't care what you think.


    > Ugh
    > "I Am Dubya And I Approve This Message" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
    > message de news: [email protected]er...
    >> Iraqi leader declares state of emergency
    >> Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault
    >> Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)
    >> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
    >> declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
    >> under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
    >> Falluja.
    >> "The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
    >> approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
    >> today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
    >> wherever is necessary."
    >> The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
    >> not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.
    >> "We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
    >> safety of the people of Iraq," he said.
    >> Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
    >> emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.
    >> Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.
    >> "We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
    >> clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
    >> people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
    >> bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
    >> were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."
    >> Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
    >> national elections, set for January.
    >> Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
    >> Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
    >> city.
    >> Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
    >> population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.
    >> And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
    >> insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.
    >> U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
    >> insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
    >> offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
    >> fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
    >> gunship cannon fire rattling the area.
    >> U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
    >> artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
    >> arms fire could be heard as well.
    >> Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
    >> contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
    >> deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
    >> to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
    >> apart and insurgents solidified control there.
    >> The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
    >> mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
    >> Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.
    >> Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
    >> tanks and attack helicopters.
    >> Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
    >> after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
    >> spokesman said Sunday.
    >> Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
    >> U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
    >> threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.
    >> It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
    >> Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
    >> Alvarez said.
    >> Sunday violence
    >> At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
    >> Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.
    >> At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
    >> near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
    >> hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.
    >> In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
    >> of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
    >> official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
    >> which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
    >> attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
    >> various Islamic movements and scholars.
    >> A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
    >> Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.
    >> In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
    >> military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
    >> Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
    >> puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
    >> including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.
    >> In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
    >> his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
    >> said.
    >> South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
    >> forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
    >> others.
    >> Other developments
    >> * Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
    >> wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.
    >> * The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
    >> death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.
    >> * The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
    >> by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
    >> killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
    >> claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.
    >> CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
    >> Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
    >

Devil

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:22:29 +0000, Jeff Hacker wrote:


    > Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    > second, we don't care what you think.

Not losing? Dream on.

A.Spencer3

"Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
    >> Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    > second, we don't care what you think.

And that is precisely the attitude that ....................

Surreyman

Freda

Oh! well sadly more body bags heading for the USA.
and I bet they wont get shown on TV either..hide the body bags so we dont
ahve to face reality
When will politicians learn.
Over 1100 and counting
Freda

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Please reply to the list as my email address is a fake
"I Am Dubya And I Approve This Message" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Iraqi leader declares state of emergency
    > Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault
    > Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)
    > BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
    > declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
    > under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
    > Falluja.
    > "The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
    > approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
    > today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
    > wherever is necessary."
    > The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
    > not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.
    > "We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
    > safety of the people of Iraq," he said.
    > Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
    > emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.
    > Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.
    > "We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
    > clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
    > people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
    > bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
    > were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."
    > Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
    > national elections, set for January.
    > Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
    > Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
    > city.
    > Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
    > population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.
    > And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
    > insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.
    > U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
    > insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
    > offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
    > fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
    > gunship cannon fire rattling the area.
    > U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
    > artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
    > arms fire could be heard as well.
    > Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
    > contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
    > deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
    > to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
    > apart and insurgents solidified control there.
    > The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
    > mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
    > Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.
    > Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
    > tanks and attack helicopters.
    > Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
    > after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
    > spokesman said Sunday.
    > Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
    > U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
    > threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.
    > It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
    > Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
    > Alvarez said.
    > Sunday violence
    > At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
    > Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.
    > At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
    > near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
    > hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.
    > In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
    > of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
    > official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
    > which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
    > attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
    > various Islamic movements and scholars.
    > A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
    > Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.
    > In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
    > military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
    > Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
    > puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
    > including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.
    > In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
    > his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
    > said.
    > South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
    > forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
    > others.
    > Other developments
    > * Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
    > wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.
    > * The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
    > death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.
    > * The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
    > by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
    > killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
    > claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.
    > CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
    > Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
    > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Freda

So you should be safe travelling to Iraq next week to
congratulate the locals and get your ass shot off hopefully
Freda

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    > "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Iraq in Europe?
    > > You americans really think the world is interested in the crappy war
    > > you're losing?
    > Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    > second, we don't care what you think.
    > > Ugh
    > >
    > > "I Am Dubya And I Approve This Message" <[email protected]> a écrit dans
le
    > > message de news: [email protected]er...
    > >> Iraqi leader declares state of emergency
    > >>
    > >> Move comes as forces prepare for Falluja assault
    > >>
    > >> Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 12:27 PM EST (1727 GMT)
    > >>
    > >> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi
    > >> declared a 60-day state of emergency Sunday, as preparations were
    > >> under way for an all-out offensive on the insurgent stronghold of
    > >> Falluja.
    > >>
    > >> "The council of ministers has approved this, the presidency has
    > >> approved it," Allawi said of the state of emergency. "We declared it
    > >> today, and we are going to implement it whenever is necessary and
    > >> wherever is necessary."
    > >>
    > >> The interim prime minister cautioned that Iraqi and U.S. forces "are
    > >> not going to be easy" with suspected terrorists and insurgents.
    > >>
    > >> "We are going to bring them to justice, and we are going to ensure the
    > >> safety of the people of Iraq," he said.
    > >>
    > >> Kurdistan province in northern Iraq was exempt from the state of
    > >> emergency, Allawi spokesman Thaer Naqib said.
    > >>
    > >> Allawi said time is up for the insurgents in Falluja.
    > >>
    > >> "We can't wait indefinitely," he said. "We have made our case very
    > >> clear. We are ready to intervene as far as we can to salvage the
    > >> people who have been taken hostage by the bunch of terrorists and
    > >> bandits and insurgents who have been part of the old regime ... and
    > >> were involved in atrocities when Saddam was around."
    > >>
    > >> Iraq and U.S. forces are trying to stabilize the nation in advance of
    > >> national elections, set for January.
    > >>
    > >> Falluja has been the target of daily artillery and air attacks as
    > >> Marines and Iraqi forces prepare for their expected assault on the
    > >> city.
    > >>
    > >> Fleeing residents of Falluja have paired down the city's normal
    > >> population of about 250,000 to about 50,000 people.
    > >>
    > >> And Marines said they believe there are about 3,000 hard-core
    > >> insurgents remaining in the Sunni Muslim city.
    > >>
    > >> U.S. warplanes, including powerful AC-130 gunships, have bombarded
    > >> insurgent targets in recent days to soften up positions ahead of the
    > >> offensive. Several explosions jolted the region early Saturday, with
    > >> fireballs lighting up the nighttime sky and the sound of AC-130
    > >> gunship cannon fire rattling the area.
    > >>
    > >> U.S. tanks were also engaged in the northeastern part of Falluja and
    > >> artillery was fired at insurgent positions. Machine-gun fire and small
    > >> arms fire could be heard as well.
    > >>
    > >> Marines attacked Falluja in April after four U.S. private security
    > >> contractors were killed and mutilated. Ensuing battles led to many
    > >> deaths. The U.S.-led forces established an indigenous Falluja brigade
    > >> to restore peace to the city, but in the summer, the brigade fell
    > >> apart and insurgents solidified control there.
    > >>
    > >> The city, which has scores of mosques and is known as the city of
    > >> mosques, will provide dangerous terrain for the thousands of U.S. and
    > >> Iraqi troops, who expect a textbook urban warfare scenario.
    > >>
    > >> Marines hope to surprise insurgents with speed -- using infantry,
    > >> tanks and attack helicopters.
    > >>
    > >> Meanwhile, a captain in the Iraqi army deserted from his unit Friday,
    > >> after hearing about plans for the Falluja assault, a U.S. military
    > >> spokesman said Sunday.
    > >>
    > >> Because the captain only received a "very low-level briefing," the
    > >> U.S. military was not worried that his desertion posed a security
    > >> threat, said the spokesman, U.S. Army Capt. Steve Alvarez.
    > >>
    > >> It is believed the captain, a Kurdish company commander from the 5th
    > >> Battalion of the Iraqi army, returned home to Iraq's Kurdistan region,
    > >> Alvarez said.
    > >> Sunday violence
    > >>
    > >> At least 32 people were killed Sunday in attacks in Ramadi, Baghdad,
    > >> Balad, Baquba and Latifiya, officials said.
    > >>
    > >> At least 21 of Sunday's victims were killed in Ramadi in
    > >> near-simultaneous attacks on three Iraqi police stations, police and
    > >> hospital officials said. Most of those killed were police officers.
    > >>
    > >> In Baghdad's Karada district Sunday, a car bomb exploded near the home
    > >> of interim Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, killing a bodyguard. An
    > >> official with the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- of
    > >> which Mahdi is a member -- said Mahdi was not home at the time of the
    > >> attack. The council is a 70-member general assembly representing
    > >> various Islamic movements and scholars.
    > >>
    > >> A second car bomb Sunday killed a bystander and wounded another near
    > >> Baghdad's Virgin Mary Catholic Church.
    > >>
    > >> In Balad, about 50 miles west of Baghdad, attackers hit a U.S.
    > >> military convoy Sunday, killing an American soldier with the U.S.
    > >> Army's 81st Brigade Combat Team, the U.S. military said. The report
    > >> puts the number of U.S. military killed in the Iraq war at 1129,
    > >> including 868 in hostile action, according to the U.S. military.
    > >>
    > >> In Baquba, unknown gunmen killed Iraqi police Col. Abdul Adim Abed and
    > >> his driver Sunday in the al-Mu'almeen neighborhood, police officials
    > >> said.
    > >>
    > >> South of Baghdad in Latifiya, insurgents battled Iraqi and coalition
    > >> forces Sunday -- fighting that killed six civilians and wounded four
    > >> others.
    > >> Other developments
    > >>
    > >> * Insurgents struck a military convoy near Ramadi on Saturday,
    > >> wounding 16 soldiers, a U.S. military official said.
    > >>
    > >> * The bodies of 12 kidnapped Iraqi civilians were found shot to
    > >> death in Latifiya on Friday, Iraqi police sources said.
    > >>
    > >> * The Base of Jihad, an Islamist militant group believed to be led
    > >> by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for an attack that
    > >> killed three British Black Watch troops south of Baghdad Thursday. The
    > >> claim, issued on several Web sites, cannot be independently confirmed.
    > >>
    > >> CNN's Karl Penhaul, Kianne Sadeq, Cal Perry, Kevin Flower, Nermeen
    > >> Al-Mufti, and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.
    > >>
    > >> http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >

Eyeball Kid

In article <[email protected]>, 00:00:00Hg
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:43:07 +0000, Robert wrote:
    >
    > > The world hates us
    >
    > Nothing new under the sun.
    >
    > Yawn.

Taking a trip abroad soon?

Bringing body guards along?

E. K.

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Deep Frayed Morgues

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:22:29 GMT, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >"Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. ..
    >> Iraq in Europe?
    >> You americans really think the world is interested in the crappy war
    >> you're losing?
    >Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    >second, we don't care what you think.

You won the war in Vietnam, and you are posting because you truly
don't care.
---
DFM

00:00:00Hg

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:02:16 +0000, Deep Frayed Morgues wrote:

    >>Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    >>second, we don't care what you think.
    >
    > You won the war in Vietnam, and you are posting because you truly don't
    > care.

You are confused and I don't care.

Mika

"a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] om...
    > >
    > >> Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    > > second, we don't care what you think.
    > >
    >
    > And that is precisely the attitude that ....................

If they truly didn't care, would they still whinge about the French all day long?

M

Jeremy

On 2004-11-08 02:22:29 +0100, "Jeff Hacker" <[email protected]> said:

    >
    > "Runge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Iraq in Europe?
    >> You americans really think the world is interested in the crappy war
    >> you're losing?
    >
    > Don't flatter yourself. First, we're not losing the war in Iraq. And,
    > second, we don't care what you think.


Of course - just as the Russians didn't lose the war in Grozny, or care
what the world thought.

J;