Murray Kupersmith

Never been to Australia and am trying to find a good time to be there in
their Spring season (Sept.?).
Please advise regarding school holidays, when is school NOT in session.

Raffi Balmanoukian

in article [email protected], Murray Kupersmith at
[email protected] wrote on 2/4/04 11:44 AM:

    > Never been to Australia and am trying to find a good time to be there in
    > their Spring season (Sept.?).
    > Please advise regarding school holidays, when is school NOT in session.
    >
    >

Varies slightly from place to place - which states will you be visiting?

Also - spring/fall is less relevant than wet/dry once you're above the
Tropic of Capricorn (very roughly speaking)

Julie

"Murray Kupersmith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Never been to Australia and am trying to find a good time to be there in
    > their Spring season (Sept.?).
    > Please advise regarding school holidays, when is school NOT in session.
Hi Murray,

This URL has lots of information for you

http://www.oztourism.com.au/ozhols.htm

Regards,

Julie

Paul O

Queensland - Spring break is from September 18th to October 4th. You can
google to find the site which gives them all!!



"Murray Kupersmith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Never been to Australia and am trying to find a good time to be there in
    > their Spring season (Sept.?).
    > Please advise regarding school holidays, when is school NOT in session.

Murray Kupersmith

Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
    > in article [email protected], Murray
    > Kupersmith at [email protected] wrote on 2/4/04 11:44 AM:
    >> Never been to Australia and am trying to find a good time to be
    >> there in their Spring season (Sept.?).
    >> Please advise regarding school holidays, when is school NOT in
    >> session.
    > Varies slightly from place to place - which states will you be
    > visiting?
    > Also - spring/fall is less relevant than wet/dry once you're above the
    > Tropic of Capricorn (very roughly speaking)

Expect to be in Victoria, NSW, and Queensland. Want to see Cairns,
Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne and maybe Hobart.

Want to make sure I will be there when school is in session so I can
avoid in-country tourism and crowds.

Frank Slootweg

Murray Kupersmith <[email protected]> wrote:
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    > Expect to be in Victoria, NSW, and Queensland. Want to see Cairns,
    > Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne and maybe Hobart.
    >
    > Want to make sure I will be there when school is in session so I can
    > avoid in-country tourism and crowds.

As Raffi mentioned, school holidays is the least of your worries.
First look at other factors like dry/wet, temperature, etc. and then see
if the resulting plan might 'conflict' with school holidays. FWIW,
we were on the east coast (i.e. the 'busiest' part) from half to end
december and had no problems whatsoever. OTOH, our last holiday in the
outback in November, there were often too *few* people, like zero! :-)

And BTW, you *don't* want to "see Sydney", but you just don't know
that yet! :-) (Just kidding of course.)

Have a great one.

Richard

Frank Slootweg <[email protected]> wrote in news:402252a7$0$226
[email protected]:

    > Murray Kupersmith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > [deleted]
    >> Expect to be in Victoria, NSW, and Queensland. Want to see Cairns,
    >> Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne and maybe Hobart.
    >>
    >> Want to make sure I will be there when school is in session so I can
    >> avoid in-country tourism and crowds.
    >
    > As Raffi mentioned, school holidays is the least of your worries.
    > First look at other factors like dry/wet, temperature, etc. and then
see
    > if the resulting plan might 'conflict' with school holidays. FWIW,
    > we were on the east coast (i.e. the 'busiest' part) from half to end
    > december and had no problems whatsoever. OTOH, our last holiday in the
    > outback in November, there were often too *few* people, like zero! :-)
    >
    > And BTW, you *don't* want to "see Sydney", but you just don't know
    > that yet! :-) (Just kidding of course.)
    >
    > Have a great one.

I think this statistical thing is overdone ("look at ... dry/wet,
temps..") For example last January in Melbourne the temps were in the
40s, extremely hot. Planning for this year, we decided to wait until the
second week of February to take off. Well, it's been the mildest summer
in a very long time, with temps barely in the mid-20s in Melbourne, and a
fair bit of rain while Sydney has been very nice in upper 20s.

Can't plan your trip out of a stats sheet. Just take the plunge.

Ncurtis

Richard <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Frank Slootweg <[email protected]> wrote in news:402252a7$0$226
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > Murray Kupersmith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > [deleted]
    > >> Expect to be in Victoria, NSW, and Queensland. Want to see Cairns,
    > >> Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne and maybe Hobart.
    > >>
    > >> Want to make sure I will be there when school is in session so I can
    > >> avoid in-country tourism and crowds.
    > >
    > > And BTW, you *don't* want to "see Sydney", but you just don't know
    > > that yet! :-) (Just kidding of course.)

Depends...considering that nearly everything on his proposed itinerary
is urbanized, he might very well want to see Sydney. It certainly has
more attractions of the big-city type than Cairns does. Now, if what
he *really* wants is to see kangaroos hopping on top of the Opera
House--which as we all know, is conveniently located for a quick swim
along the Great Barrier Reef, and just a short walk from Uluru ;-)
--I'd agree that Sydney is a waste of his time.

    > I think this statistical thing is overdone ("look at ... dry/wet,
    > temps..") For example last January in Melbourne the temps were in the
    > 40s, extremely hot. Planning for this year, we decided to wait until the
    > second week of February to take off. Well, it's been the mildest summer
    > in a very long time, with temps barely in the mid-20s in Melbourne, and a
    > fair bit of rain while Sydney has been very nice in upper 20s.
    >
    > Can't plan your trip out of a stats sheet. Just take the plunge.

Of course he doesn't want to take the stats as 100% guarantees (says
the woman who routinely shovels a foot of "partly cloudy" off her car
during the winter). Doesn't hurt to pay attention to the general
pattern, though. Maybe he's got allergies, or SAD, or arthritis, and
he'd like to skew the odds in favor of comfort as much as he can. Or,
OTOH, maybe he likes proving he can survive "extreme" weather.

Nancy

Raffi Balmanoukian

in article [email protected], ncurtis at
[email protected] wrote on 2/6/04 10:50 AM:

    >
    >> I think this statistical thing is overdone ("look at ... dry/wet,
    >> temps..") For example last January in Melbourne the temps were in the
    >> 40s, extremely hot. Planning for this year, we decided to wait until the
    >> second week of February to take off. Well, it's been the mildest summer
    >> in a very long time, with temps barely in the mid-20s in Melbourne, and a
    >> fair bit of rain while Sydney has been very nice in upper 20s.
    >>
    >> Can't plan your trip out of a stats sheet. Just take the plunge.
    >
    > Of course he doesn't want to take the stats as 100% guarantees (says
    > the woman who routinely shovels a foot of "partly cloudy" off her car
    > during the winter). Doesn't hurt to pay attention to the general
    > pattern, though. Maybe he's got allergies, or SAD, or arthritis, and
    > he'd like to skew the odds in favor of comfort as much as he can. Or,
    > OTOH, maybe he likes proving he can survive "extreme" weather.
    >
    > Nancy

Here's an example: we just had the coldest January on record (Nova Scotia).
The "average temperature" was -8. Big whoop according to that number - the
real story was told in the number of days we had -40+ wind chills and
-20-something notional "highs." The "average" charts, IME, actually tell
you very little.

Richard

Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a>
wrote in
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    > in article [email protected], ncurtis at
    > [email protected] wrote on 2/6/04 10:50 AM:
    >
    >>
    >>> I think this statistical thing is overdone ("look at ... dry/wet,
    >>> temps..") For example last January in Melbourne the temps were in
    >>> the 40s, extremely hot. Planning for this year, we decided to wait
    >>> until the second week of February to take off. Well, it's been the
    >>> mildest summer in a very long time, with temps barely in the mid-20s
    >>> in Melbourne, and a fair bit of rain while Sydney has been very nice
    >>> in upper 20s.
    >>>
    >>> Can't plan your trip out of a stats sheet. Just take the plunge.
    >>
    >> Of course he doesn't want to take the stats as 100% guarantees (says
    >> the woman who routinely shovels a foot of "partly cloudy" off her car
    >> during the winter). Doesn't hurt to pay attention to the general
    >> pattern, though. Maybe he's got allergies, or SAD, or arthritis, and
    >> he'd like to skew the odds in favor of comfort as much as he can. Or,
    >> OTOH, maybe he likes proving he can survive "extreme" weather.
    >>
    >> Nancy
    >
    > Here's an example: we just had the coldest January on record (Nova
    > Scotia). The "average temperature" was -8. Big whoop according to
    > that number - the real story was told in the number of days we had
    > -40+ wind chills and -20-something notional "highs." The "average"
    > charts, IME, actually tell you very little.

'zactly my point, ignore the stat sheets and just plan your vacation
around 'generally' good weather, i.e. late summer, early autumn in
Australia 'should' mean probably a little less likely of having 40+
temps.

Although now, as the summer advances I notice the really hot weather is
in fact coming. Just when we thought it would be subsiding :-)