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Old Feb 15th 2004, 8:32 am
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Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?

Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!

Thanks,


john
 
Old Feb 15th 2004, 9:35 am
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Raffi Balmanoukian
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in article [email protected], jb at
[email protected] wrote on 2/15/04 5:32 PM:

    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    >
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    > john


http://www.gsr.com.au

If, as it appears, you are a foreigner, consider a flexpass. Can work out
cheaper than individual tkts.
 
Old Feb 15th 2004, 10:11 am
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Sydney/Adelaide possible via either Melbourne or Broken Hill.


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    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    > Thanks,
    > john
 
Old Feb 15th 2004, 11:49 am
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"jb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    > Thanks,

individual base-class rail tickets are not much cheaper than air
on the inter-capital routes


You can travel from syd-melb then melb-adel in the green inhabited zone

or syd-adel via broken hill on Indian pacific
if you want to see something more open

20 years ago there were 3 buses a day Adelaide-Broken Hill , daily through
to Sydney
Now that route has _no_ scheduled bus services , but there are 3 planes a
day
and 2 trains a week.
 
Old Feb 15th 2004, 12:07 pm
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:

    > http://www.gsr.com.au
    >
    > If, as it appears, you are a foreigner, consider a flexpass. Can work out
    > cheaper than individual tkts.

Or get a YHA card: proof that you are a "backpacker" gets you student
fares. It was $155 from Adelaide to Perth, so should be well under than
that for heading East of Adelaide.
    >
 
Old Feb 15th 2004, 2:06 pm
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in article [email protected], alfred at
[email protected] wrote on 2/15/04 9:07 PM:

    > Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.gsr.com.au
    >>
    >> If, as it appears, you are a foreigner, consider a flexpass. Can work out
    >> cheaper than individual tkts.
    >
    > Or get a YHA card: proof that you are a "backpacker" gets you student
    > fares. It was $155 from Adelaide to Perth, so should be well under than
    > that for heading East of Adelaide.
    >>
    >

Two days plus in the seats, plus tucker - would add up to $200 plus, easily,
without anesthetic (a/k/a booze)? Ugh. I paid something like $550 first
class on this exact itin (ADL-PER) for a single berth and including meals.
Sure, not cheap, but one of life's once-only indulgences and well worth it;
and, all considered, not too much more expensive. SYD-MEL and MEL-ADL are
overnight trips and doable on a shoestring, if you wish.
 
Old Feb 16th 2004, 1:40 pm
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:

    > in article [email protected], alfred at
    > [email protected] wrote on 2/15/04 9:07 PM:

    >>Or get a YHA card: proof that you are a "backpacker" gets you student
    >>fares. It was $155 from Adelaide to Perth, so should be well under than
    >>that for heading East of Adelaide.
    >
    > Two days plus in the seats, plus tucker - would add up to $200 plus, easily,
    > without anesthetic (a/k/a booze)? Ugh.

I cheated: got off in Kalgoorlie and caught the Prospector a few days
later so only had one night on the train. The cheap seats weren't so
bad, although the grumpy guard who made sure everyone was wearing shoes
and awake in the lounge car detracted somewhat.
 
Old Feb 16th 2004, 3:16 pm
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If you want to avoid flying, maybe a bus then? You'll be more flexible..

See http://www.greyhound.com.au/ or http://www.mccaffertys.com.au/..

Marcel

"jb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    > Thanks,
    > john
 
Old Feb 16th 2004, 3:27 pm
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Raffi Balmanoukian
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in article [email protected], alfred at
[email protected] wrote on 2/16/04 10:40 PM:

    > Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
    >
    >> in article [email protected], alfred at
    >> [email protected] wrote on 2/15/04 9:07 PM:
    >
    >>> Or get a YHA card: proof that you are a "backpacker" gets you student
    >>> fares. It was $155 from Adelaide to Perth, so should be well under than
    >>> that for heading East of Adelaide.
    >>>
    >>
    >> Two days plus in the seats, plus tucker - would add up to $200 plus, easily,
    >> without anesthetic (a/k/a booze)? Ugh.
    >
    > I cheated: got off in Kalgoorlie and caught the Prospector

If you stopped for an overnight in Kalgoorlie, you're lucky the Prospector
was the only thing you caught! If the springs are rockin'....it may not
just be because of the train...
 
Old Feb 17th 2004, 8:49 am
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
    >
    > If you stopped for an overnight in Kalgoorlie, you're lucky the Prospector
    > was the only thing you caught! If the springs are rockin'....it may not
    > just be because of the train...

Hehe: I was intrigued by the location of the two backpackers in town -
they are both in Hay Street, opposite Langtrees and the pink and red
"houses". The YHA has in fact taken over a former brothel for longtermers.
 
Old Feb 17th 2004, 9:56 am
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Raffi Balmanoukian
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in article [email protected], alfred at
[email protected] wrote on 2/17/04 5:49 PM:

    > Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
    >>
    >> If you stopped for an overnight in Kalgoorlie, you're lucky the Prospector
    >> was the only thing you caught! If the springs are rockin'....it may not
    >> just be because of the train...
    >
    > Hehe: I was intrigued by the location of the two backpackers in town -
    > they are both in Hay Street, opposite Langtrees and the pink and red
    > "houses". The YHA has in fact taken over a former brothel for longtermers.
    >

The Gold Dust (think I have that name right) is actually a former
no-tell-motel. The first hostel operators were wonderful, the ones who were
in charge in 2001 were godawful (may be the same crowd...)
 
Old Feb 23rd 2004, 12:07 am
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"jb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!

is that because ou dont like flying ?

or think that there are cheaper ways to travel ??

    > Thanks,
    > john
 
Old Feb 25th 2004, 2:53 am
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Train journeys are fantastic in Australia - you really get an
appreciation of how big the country really is. The train is expensive
though - usually more than a flight. But if you've got the time and
the money, definitely do it. Also is cheaper if you're a student or
under 26. Go to http://www.gsr.com.au for info. I've done Adelaide to
Sydney (my friend's dad works on the train and my mate and I got
bumped up to FIRST CLASS - what an amazing experience) and Adelaide to
Perth. That one took 3 days and 2 nights but was well worth it.
Economy is a bit uncomfortable on that one as it is so long. I'd go
for holiday class where you get a little cabin and fold out bunkbeds.
 
Old Feb 26th 2004, 10:56 am
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you can do them syd-adl on the ...train... thingo pacific which runs
syd-perth via adelaide. from friendly experience i've noticed that
usually train tickets cost just as much as plane tickets (and take 10
times longer)
dunno about adelaide to melbourne.

jb wrote:
    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    >
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    > john
 
Old Feb 26th 2004, 10:58 am
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Steven
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i thought i pressed send, haven't seen my reply though. so here goes again.
you can do sydney to adelaide via train. the <something> pacific. it's a
train that runs sydney-perth and stops at adelaide.
however, from epxeriences by friends, it's very long and just as (if not
more) expensive than a plane ticket/trip.
dunno about adelaide to melbourne.
-s-

jb wrote:
    > Anyone know if it is feasable to think of doing a train trip from
    > Sydney to Adelaide? Also, Adelaide to Melbourne? Costs?
    >
    > Just trying to think of a way to avoid flying!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    > john
 


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