Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
Aug 14th 2006, 9:33 am
#31
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
nicandal wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>Cori
>
>
> Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
> practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
> its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
> they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
> discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
> of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
> interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
> to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
> then you don't understand.
>
> I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
> is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
> with them.
Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they
DO leave with the passengers could probably start a
respectable fire if someone had a mind to, but it seems
highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout method!
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>Cori
>
>
> Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
> practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
> its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
> they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
> discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
> of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
> interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
> to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
> then you don't understand.
>
> I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
> is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
> with them.
Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they
DO leave with the passengers could probably start a
respectable fire if someone had a mind to, but it seems
highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout method!
Aug 14th 2006, 8:25 pm
#32
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> nicandal wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>>Cori
>> Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
>> practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
>> its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
>> they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
>> discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
>> of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
>> interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
>> to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
>> then you don't understand.
>> I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
>> is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
>> with them.
> Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they DO leave with
> the passengers could probably start a respectable fire if someone had a
> mind to, but it seems highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout
> method!
But this a is *exactly* the kind of thing that a good
espionage operative should be looking to use.
Though I will accecpt that he recent crop of espionage
operatives don't appear to have reached the competence
level of good .
tim
>
news:[email protected]...
> nicandal wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>>Cori
>> Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
>> practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
>> its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
>> they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
>> discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
>> of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
>> interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
>> to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
>> then you don't understand.
>> I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
>> is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
>> with them.
> Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they DO leave with
> the passengers could probably start a respectable fire if someone had a
> mind to, but it seems highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout
> method!
But this a is *exactly* the kind of thing that a good
espionage operative should be looking to use.
Though I will accecpt that he recent crop of espionage
operatives don't appear to have reached the competence
level of good .
tim
>
Aug 15th 2006, 12:48 am
#33
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
Frank Slootweg wrote:
> James Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Larry in Berkeley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget
> > > that now all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage,
> > > not carried on board.
> >
> > You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the
> > USA. The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
> > originating in the UK.
> I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture of
> (*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of babyfood in
> passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked, Denver was not in
> the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have TSA staff.).
> [deleted]
Baby food is liquid. Liquids are banned in the US.
They won't need bombs, the babies will be going off like land mines. Take
earplugs!
--
ant
> James Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Larry in Berkeley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget
> > > that now all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage,
> > > not carried on board.
> >
> > You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the
> > USA. The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
> > originating in the UK.
> I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture of
> (*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of babyfood in
> passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked, Denver was not in
> the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have TSA staff.).
> [deleted]
Baby food is liquid. Liquids are banned in the US.
They won't need bombs, the babies will be going off like land mines. Take
earplugs!
--
ant
Aug 15th 2006, 6:39 am
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
tim wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>nicandal wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>>>Cori
>>>Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
>>>practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
>>>its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
>>>they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
>>>discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
>>>of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
>>>interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
>>>to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
>>>then you don't understand.
>>>I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
>>>is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
>>>with them.
>>Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they DO leave with
>>the passengers could probably start a respectable fire if someone had a
>>mind to, but it seems highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout
>>method!
>
>
> But this a is *exactly* the kind of thing that a good
> espionage operative should be looking to use.
>
> Though I will accecpt that he recent crop of espionage
> operatives don't appear to have reached the competence
> level of good .
Well, what would you expect of spies whose intention is to
immolate themselves along with their prey?
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>nicandal wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>>>>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>>>>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>>>>Cori
>>>Heh heh. Cori, what would you like the airlines to do - really,
>>>practically do - with this piece of "knowledge"? Islam does not require
>>>its followers to carry an ID card, no more than do all those who say
>>>they are Muslims shun all alcohol, no more can an airline reasonably
>>>discriminate between who is allowed alcohol and who is not on any kind
>>>of religious grounds for that would be them imposing their
>>>interpretation of a religion upon their passengers. Would you like them
>>>to stop serving pork to "Jewish types" too? If you find this ridiculous
>>>then you don't understand.
>>>I suspect the airlines don't serve alcohol in any quantity such that it
>>>is particularly hazardous already. I doubt anyone gets the bottle left
>>>with them.
>>Well, even the individual serving size bottles of booze they DO leave with
>>the passengers could probably start a respectable fire if someone had a
>>mind to, but it seems highly unlikely anyone would use such a roundabout
>>method!
>
>
> But this a is *exactly* the kind of thing that a good
> espionage operative should be looking to use.
>
> Though I will accecpt that he recent crop of espionage
> operatives don't appear to have reached the competence
> level of good .
Well, what would you expect of spies whose intention is to
immolate themselves along with their prey?
Aug 15th 2006, 9:41 am
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
Larry in Berkeley wrote:
> If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that now
> all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not carried on
> board. It is absolutely essential to have the film (and the camera
> containing film) in a lead pouch. Otherwise, many strong x-rays used
> for checked luggage will fry all your film.
> Camera stores have or can get the lead pouches.
> On my last trip, I had some instant coffee in a plastic container with
> a small silver-plated spoon. One of the x-ray machines was so strong
> that it melted and solidified all the coffee! Not exactly film safe!
> Larry in Berkeley, California
The thieves in baggage handling (or TSA) will have a bounty picking
cameras off checked bags. I had my digital camera stolen two years ago
in checked luggage. I'll check it with the TSA and get a receipt if
they insist on putting it in checked bags.
> If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that now
> all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not carried on
> board. It is absolutely essential to have the film (and the camera
> containing film) in a lead pouch. Otherwise, many strong x-rays used
> for checked luggage will fry all your film.
> Camera stores have or can get the lead pouches.
> On my last trip, I had some instant coffee in a plastic container with
> a small silver-plated spoon. One of the x-ray machines was so strong
> that it melted and solidified all the coffee! Not exactly film safe!
> Larry in Berkeley, California
The thieves in baggage handling (or TSA) will have a bounty picking
cameras off checked bags. I had my digital camera stolen two years ago
in checked luggage. I'll check it with the TSA and get a receipt if
they insist on putting it in checked bags.
Aug 18th 2006, 6:55 pm
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
On 14 Aug 2006 02:32:46 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Of course, you can make a dandy spark with a bit of nylon cloth or
>> other staticy things.
>> Jim P.
>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>Cori
And Chrisitians can't get divorces...it's in the Bible...not a good
idea to presume a religion as large as Islam has everyone acting in
the exact same way.
Both religions forbid killing children (as a rule) but that's never
stopped either group.
Jim P.
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Of course, you can make a dandy spark with a bit of nylon cloth or
>> other staticy things.
>> Jim P.
>Be suspicious of any Islamic types ordering alcoholic drinks on a
>flight. Their religion forbids drinking, and alcohol can prove quite
>flammable. But will the airlines stop serving it?
>Cori
And Chrisitians can't get divorces...it's in the Bible...not a good
idea to presume a religion as large as Islam has everyone acting in
the exact same way.
Both religions forbid killing children (as a rule) but that's never
stopped either group.
Jim P.
Aug 18th 2006, 6:59 pm
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Re: Film Cameras in Checked Luggage
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:42:22 +0100, "tim"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"James Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] ...
>> "Larry in Berkeley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that now
>>> all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not carried on
>>> board.
>> You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the USA. The
>> only place in the world that restricts you are flights originating in the
>> UK.
>As of today this restriction has been removed.
>There will apparently be a few days whilst the airports
>discourage it, but HMG have officially now allowed them again.
>tim
Have you ever noticed that increased restricitions take effect
instantly but when they are relaxed it "takes a few days for them to
filter into the system and for people to be trained." Odd is it not?
And in fact, sometimes it takes years and even when shown their own
web pages or memos, they refuse to believe something is permitted
onboard.
JIm P.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"James Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] ...
>> "Larry in Berkeley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that now
>>> all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not carried on
>>> board.
>> You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the USA. The
>> only place in the world that restricts you are flights originating in the
>> UK.
>As of today this restriction has been removed.
>There will apparently be a few days whilst the airports
>discourage it, but HMG have officially now allowed them again.
>tim
Have you ever noticed that increased restricitions take effect
instantly but when they are relaxed it "takes a few days for them to
filter into the system and for people to be trained." Odd is it not?
And in fact, sometimes it takes years and even when shown their own
web pages or memos, they refuse to believe something is permitted
onboard.
JIm P.
