Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Mar 4th 2004, 6:58 pm
#181
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
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<BC6D3ABF.2174D%[email protected] s.sympatico.ca>, Raffi
Balmanoukian <[email protected] a> writes
>If I was driving and struck a
>pedestrian, I would be devastated. If a guy splooked himself, that's his
>problem, not mine.
The difficulty is, that unless you saw the chap jump, in the split
second after you hear the impact and see body parts across your
windscreen your brain will assume that you *did* just hit an unseen
pedestrian. That's when the shock immediately sets in. Even if you can
gather the evidence to convince yourself it was a jumper within seconds,
the mental damage is done.
>And my point, throughout is - whether you agree with that or not, there's
>one thing we possibly, maybe, MIGHT agree on: it is not the aircraft
>passengers' fault. They weren't tramatized. They weren't there. They
>didn't see it. Didn't know the guy. Why should they be put out?
It's not the passengers fault if the crew failed to arrive because the
minivan broke down on the highway. But flights still get cancelled for
such reasons.
You keep asserting that a spare crew could be used. Is there any
evidence that LAX has a facility that can deploy such a relief crew for
a longhaul flight, at a moment's notice? An airline for whom it was a
domestic hub might be able to do that for a short domestic flight, but
it sounds unlikely to me that you could immediately re-roster a two-day
duty turn for a random unfamiliar aircraft belonging to someone else's
airline.
In any event, everyone keeps missing the point - that the passengers
were successfully transferred to other same-day flights. What's the
problem? Or is the 4 hour delay such a big deal for longhaul passengers?
--
Roland Perry
<BC6D3ABF.2174D%[email protected] s.sympatico.ca>, Raffi
Balmanoukian <[email protected] a> writes
>If I was driving and struck a
>pedestrian, I would be devastated. If a guy splooked himself, that's his
>problem, not mine.
The difficulty is, that unless you saw the chap jump, in the split
second after you hear the impact and see body parts across your
windscreen your brain will assume that you *did* just hit an unseen
pedestrian. That's when the shock immediately sets in. Even if you can
gather the evidence to convince yourself it was a jumper within seconds,
the mental damage is done.
>And my point, throughout is - whether you agree with that or not, there's
>one thing we possibly, maybe, MIGHT agree on: it is not the aircraft
>passengers' fault. They weren't tramatized. They weren't there. They
>didn't see it. Didn't know the guy. Why should they be put out?
It's not the passengers fault if the crew failed to arrive because the
minivan broke down on the highway. But flights still get cancelled for
such reasons.
You keep asserting that a spare crew could be used. Is there any
evidence that LAX has a facility that can deploy such a relief crew for
a longhaul flight, at a moment's notice? An airline for whom it was a
domestic hub might be able to do that for a short domestic flight, but
it sounds unlikely to me that you could immediately re-roster a two-day
duty turn for a random unfamiliar aircraft belonging to someone else's
airline.
In any event, everyone keeps missing the point - that the passengers
were successfully transferred to other same-day flights. What's the
problem? Or is the 4 hour delay such a big deal for longhaul passengers?
--
Roland Perry
Mar 4th 2004, 8:42 pm
#182
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Roland Perry wrote in message ...
> Raffia Balmanoukian ns.sympatico.ca> writes
>You keep asserting that a spare crew could be used. Is there any
>evidence that LAX has a facility that can deploy such a relief crew for
>a longhaul flight, at a moment's notice? An airline for whom it was a
>domestic hub might be able to do that for a short domestic flight, but
>it sounds unlikely to me that you could immediately re-roster a two-day
>duty turn for a random unfamiliar aircraft belonging to someone else's
>airline.
Relax
The ole Raffia Unbelieviumdoublewheelbarrow reckons it's a Joe Cool lawyer.
It's much more likely it's an acne-riddled 11-year old, judging by the
standard of its posts - but let's face it, even that's more desirable than
being an ambulance chaser!
Ignore it and let it go back to amusing itself by abusing itself and
catching its cum in its hat.
(Watch out for the calluses, Raffia - you poor simple basket...)
> Raffia Balmanoukian ns.sympatico.ca> writes
>You keep asserting that a spare crew could be used. Is there any
>evidence that LAX has a facility that can deploy such a relief crew for
>a longhaul flight, at a moment's notice? An airline for whom it was a
>domestic hub might be able to do that for a short domestic flight, but
>it sounds unlikely to me that you could immediately re-roster a two-day
>duty turn for a random unfamiliar aircraft belonging to someone else's
>airline.
Relax
The ole Raffia Unbelieviumdoublewheelbarrow reckons it's a Joe Cool lawyer.
It's much more likely it's an acne-riddled 11-year old, judging by the
standard of its posts - but let's face it, even that's more desirable than
being an ambulance chaser!
Ignore it and let it go back to amusing itself by abusing itself and
catching its cum in its hat.
(Watch out for the calluses, Raffia - you poor simple basket...)
Mar 5th 2004, 6:15 am
#183
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Raffi Balmanoukian <[email protected] a> writes:
> Not at all. It's very simple. Now take my hand, and I'll lead you
> through it.
> If something physically injures, that's one thing.
> If you have an accident, that's another.
> If someone tosses him / herself off a bridge, I refuse to be his
> victim by getting upset over it.
> Now that I've said it around twenty times, time to move on.
I have news for you. A person how goes through an experience such as
the one the ANZ crew had does not get much choise in how their brain
reacts. For a number of people there is long lasting to permanant
physical injury to the brain. These can be imaged on MRI or CAT scan,
you don't even have to know their name to make the diagnosis.
Any other area of ignorance and crass stupidity you would care to
explore?
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> Not at all. It's very simple. Now take my hand, and I'll lead you
> through it.
> If something physically injures, that's one thing.
> If you have an accident, that's another.
> If someone tosses him / herself off a bridge, I refuse to be his
> victim by getting upset over it.
> Now that I've said it around twenty times, time to move on.
I have news for you. A person how goes through an experience such as
the one the ANZ crew had does not get much choise in how their brain
reacts. For a number of people there is long lasting to permanant
physical injury to the brain. These can be imaged on MRI or CAT scan,
you don't even have to know their name to make the diagnosis.
Any other area of ignorance and crass stupidity you would care to
explore?
--
Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd.,
+61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
West Australia 6076
comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot
Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.
Mar 6th 2004, 8:51 am
#184
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
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Mar 6th 2004, 10:35 am
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
"AlmostBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Any of your clients ever come back to wmploy your services a second time?
Nah.
After a session with him, most go out, driven to despair, and leap off
overpasses on to unsuspecting traffic.
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> Any of your clients ever come back to wmploy your services a second time?
Nah.
After a session with him, most go out, driven to despair, and leap off
overpasses on to unsuspecting traffic.
Mar 6th 2004, 4:50 pm
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Re: Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Tosser wrote in message ...
>"AlmostBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Any of your clients ever come back to wmploy your services a second time?
>Nah.
>After a session with him, most go out, driven to despair, and leap off
>overpasses on to unsuspecting traffic.
Beautiful! LMAO
>"AlmostBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Any of your clients ever come back to wmploy your services a second time?
>Nah.
>After a session with him, most go out, driven to despair, and leap off
>overpasses on to unsuspecting traffic.
Beautiful! LMAO
