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What to see in Nairobi

Old Jan 21st 2003, 7:25 am
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Sherry Hall
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We are off to Kenya two weeks from today, my first trip to Africa and I
still get goosebumps thinking about being there.

We are spending two days in Nairobi before hooking up with our safari
tour. My mother and I would like to do some shopping and visit a Museum
or two, I myself want to see the train Museum I hear it has the actual
boxcar where the man-eating lion got his victim, back when the railroad
was being built.
Our tour starts in Nairobi visiting Karen Blixen's farm and a trip to
the giraffe center, what I'm wanting to know is whether the Nairobi
wildlife park is a must and the orphanage? Our tour does not cover
this and might be something to do instead of a day at the Blixen farm
and giraffe center.

Any suggestions for Nairobi?

Thanks,
Sherry
 
Old Jan 21st 2003, 10:43 am
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Liz
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[email protected] (Sherry Hall) wrote:

    > We are off to Kenya two weeks from today, my first trip to Africa and I
    > still get goosebumps thinking about being there.
Ooooooooooh!
Getting closer!

    > We are spending two days in Nairobi before hooking up with our safari
    > tour. My mother and I would like to do some shopping and visit a Museum
    > or two, I myself want to see the train Museum I hear it has the actual
    > boxcar where the man-eating lion got his victim, back when the railroad
    > was being built.
    > Our tour starts in Nairobi visiting Karen Blixen's farm and a trip to
    > the giraffe center, what I'm wanting to know is whether the Nairobi
    > wildlife park is a must and the orphanage? Our tour does not cover
    > this and might be something to do instead of a day at the Blixen farm
    > and giraffe center.
    >
    > Any suggestions for Nairobi?
I've chosen to go out to Karen Blixen's house & Giraffe centre twice, but I'm a fan.
If you don't like the book or film, it probably won't be of interest.
However, it's included.

The National Park is excellent, and well worth the money, but it is quite a
bit add-on cost. I haven't been to the Orphanage or the train museum but the
National Museum is worth a visit IMO.

Liz
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Old Jan 21st 2003, 10:10 pm
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Klaus Scharfenstein
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Sherry Hall wrote:

    > We are off to Kenya two weeks from today, my first trip to Africa and I
    > still get goosebumps thinking about being there.

Lucky you!


    > Any suggestions for Nairobi?

A must from my point of view is the City Market. Try to do some of your
shopping there - buy some avocados and mangos there, do your first steps
towards learning how to negociate about reasonable prices. Don't carry
too much money there, no jewelries, no expensive cameras - just to put
yourself at ease. It's a good place to get in touch with the people -
just take your time there, talk to people and it will be a great
experience!

Enjoy!
Klaus
 
Old Jan 22nd 2003, 1:04 am
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Hans-Georg Michna
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Sherry,

I think if you have a day left over, you might as well book a
safari into Nairobi National Park. You'll probably like it.

Perhaps you can book that only the afternoon before, so you can
still decide that you'd rather want to rest. The thin air in the
Kenyan highlands, and that includes Nairobi, can make you a bit
tired in the beginning. But it varies from person to person.

Hans-Georg

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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 5:07 am
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Sherry Hall
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Liz,
I'm a huge fan of the movie, seen it numerous times. I have to hold
myself back every time it comes on tv. Does it really look like the
movie? I hear most of the furniture is not there and the tour makes
little references to Karen Blixen. Is the Ngong Hills part of the
package, or is it usually separate? I've read the views there are
outstanding. What concerns me about the giraffe center is being too
much like a zoo, is this true? Is the orphanage part of the center or
next to Nairobi Park?

Thanks,
Sherry
 
Old Jan 22nd 2003, 5:24 am
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Sherry Hall
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Hans,
Do you need to book it, or can you just show up that day. How many
hours does it take?
Light-air, is the elevation that high in Nairobi? Our current elevation
is 5200 ft. We live next to the Sierra Mountains in Nevada (USA).

Thank,
Sherry
 
Old Jan 22nd 2003, 6:18 am
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    > Liz,
    > I'm a huge fan of the movie, seen it numerous times. I have to hold
    > myself back every time it comes on tv. Does it really look like the
    > movie?
Yes, but the movie didn't use her actual house, which was too small for the
film crews etc, but a nearby larger home designed by the same architect in
the same style.
Photo at http://www.v-liz.co.uk/safari/nairobiare/kbh.htm

    > I hear most of the furniture is not there and the tour makes
    > little references to Karen Blixen.
I can't say about the furniture, I can't remember, but she had been away for
many years, so it wouldn't be surprising. Denmark gave the house to Kenya as
an Uhuru present. I'm surprised other tours didn't refer to Karen Blixen. We
had a different guide on each visit, and that was what the tour was all
about. I suppose it depends which guide is 'on' on the day you visit. I
can't think what else they'd talk about! Both guides were quite reticent,
compared to the bouncy 'American' style like the ranger who showed us around
MLK's 'birth house' in Atlanta!

We're currently reading Karen's "Letters from Africa".

    > Is the Ngong Hills part of the package, or is it usually separate?
I didn't visit the hills, July is the 'grey season' in Nairobi, and both
visits were in haavy drizzle! I understand there's also a nature walk there,
but there didn't seem to be much time to partake of it on the 'organised'
tour. When we went ourselves, it was easier.

    > I've read the views there are outstanding.
You can see the drizzle in the above-referenced photo!

    > What concerns me about the giraffe center is being too much like a zoo, is
    > this true?
Well, it's more like you're in the cage. The giraffes are 'controlled' but
free-ranging within a pretty good span of land - much more than any zoo I've
visited. There's a sort-of interpretative building which you go into, go up
onto the upper floor, and if you're lucky, the giraffes come in to be
hand-fed. Also some tame warthogs. There's a nature trail there too, which
was good for birds, but again, on the 'organised' tour we didn't have time for
this.
Photos on http://www.v-liz.co.uk/safari/nairobiare/girman.htm

    > Is the orphanage part of the center or next to Nairobi Park?
Next to Nairobi NP.

Liz
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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 8:12 am
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Tilly
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Nairobi is at 6000 feet so you should be fine .However I found it exhausting
and had breathing difficulties because I live at sealevel in sight of The
Atlantic Ocean ,Anne
"Sherry Hall" wrote in message
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    > Hans,
    > Do you need to book it, or can you just show up that day. How many
    > hours does it take?
    > Light-air, is the elevation that high in Nairobi? Our current elevation
    > is 5200 ft. We live next to the Sierra Mountains in Nevada (USA).
    > Thank,
    > Sherry
 
Old Jan 22nd 2003, 8:47 am
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Sherry Hall wrote:

    > Hans,
    > Do you need to book it, or can you just show up that day.

Your hotel or tour operator can arrange it - usually a half-day.

    > Light-air, is the elevation that high in Nairobi? Our current elevation
    > is 5200 ft. We live next to the Sierra Mountains in Nevada (USA).

You will feel right at home. That is almost precisely the elevation of
Nairobi.

Speaking of the National Museum - it's not that great, in my opinion..
except for one national treasure. Actually, many of them.
The tribal portraits done by Joy Adamson. And if the name sounds
familiar, it's because she is more widely known for being the wife
of George, and the 'mother' of Elsa the lioness.. that's right, the
Elsa of "Born Free".



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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 10:03 am
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    > The tribal portraits done by Joy Adamson. And if the name sounds
    > familiar, it's because she is more widely known for being the wife
    > of George, and the 'mother' of Elsa the lioness.. that's right, the
    > Elsa of "Born Free".
    >
I love these too: I've got two framed in my living room - you can buy them
in the museum shop - to help when we're too far 'out of Africa'.

Liz
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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 8:32 pm
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Irvine Short
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Sherry Hall wrote:

    >We are spending two days in Nairobi before hooking up with our safari
    >tour. My mother and I would like to do some shopping and visit a Museum
    >or two, I myself want to see the train Museum I hear it has the actual
    >boxcar where the man-eating lion got his victim, back when the railroad
    >was being built.
It certainly was there when I visited about 10 years ago complete with
bloodstains!

Keep an eye out too for the recently restored to working order 59th
class steam loco "Mt Gelai"

It's one of the world's most powerful steam locos and was restored last
year. I'm sure the guys at the museum could let you see it if you were
interested.

There's a pretty comfy train that runs to Mombasa overnight too, but I
think it's no longer daily but three times a week.

Cheers,

Irvine
 
Old Jan 22nd 2003, 9:11 pm
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[email protected] (Sherry Hall) wrote:

    >Do you need to book it, or can you just show up that day. How many
    >hours does it take?

Sherry,

you cannot just show up, because you need a car or minibus to
drive in. You have to arrange this beforehand, but probably the
hotel will be able to help or any of the tour companies.

I always drive in for a whole day, but then I always drive
myself. I don't know what tours are available, but you'll find
out.

    >Light-air, is the elevation that high in Nairobi? Our current elevation
    >is 5200 ft. We live next to the Sierra Mountains in Nevada (USA).

Wilson Airport (between Nairobi city and Nairobi National Park)
altitude is 5,535 ft. You're lucky. You arrive with the right
number of red blood cells. You'll feel better than the average
tourist.

Hans-Georg

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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 11:03 pm
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    > > Is the orphanage part of the center or next to Nairobi Park?
    > Next to Nairobi NP.

I think there may be two orphanages - there is (or used to be ) one associated
with the Park - I heard not very good things about that one.
There also is (or used to be!) Daphne Sheldrick's elephant orphanage - also near
the NP. I visited that about 11 years ago - there happened to be only one baby
elephant there at the time - the rest had gone to her place at Voi. There was
also a baby rhino and some warthogs. It was very interesting - you get to 'talk'
to elephant (breath down its trunk) and possibly stepped on by it too if you are
not careful.



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Old Jan 22nd 2003, 11:05 pm
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Dave Patterson wrote:

    > Speaking of the National Museum - it's not that great, in my opinion..
    > except for one national treasure.

I think its worth a visit (we've been twice, the most recently in 2001);
there's the snake park opposite too which may or may not be your sort of thing
- but that had improved immensely when we were there in 2001 compared to 1979.

Both places were full of Kenyan school children when we were there - which is
good to see.

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Old Jan 23rd 2003, 2:14 am
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"Hans-Georg Michna" wrote in message
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    > [email protected] (Sherry Hall) wrote:
    > >Do you need to book it, or can you just show up that day. How many
    > >hours does it take?
    > Sherry,
    > snip
    > >Light-air, is the elevation that high in Nairobi? Our current elevation
    > >is 5200 ft. We live next to the Sierra Mountains in Nevada (USA).
    > Wilson Airport (between Nairobi city and Nairobi National Park)
    > altitude is 5,535 ft. You're lucky. You arrive with the right
    > number of red blood cells. You'll feel better than the average
    > tourist.
    > Hans-Georg
    > No mail, please.

Is there anything to take other then a welcome drink to make you
feel better? Or is that the wrong thing to have under the circumstances?

Karl
 

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