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What to bring to South Africa

Old Apr 8th 2007, 12:01 pm
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Krypto
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I'm going on a trip to Capetown and KNP for the first time. Is there
something I can bring along to give to local children .... pencils or
candy bars, stuff like that? What are some of the places where I might
run across kids that need stuff?
 
Old Apr 8th 2007, 1:18 pm
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Michael Kilpatrick
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For what it's worth, my view on this is that it isn't a good idea, as a
tourist, to be handing out gifts to local children - especially candy bars.

If you want to help the local people there are plenty of organisations out
there that would be happy to use a donation from you, or you could even
donate directly to a local school.

Giving gifts directly to children just fosters a culture of dependence that
encourages the children to skip school and hassle tourists.

Just my 2c. Others may have contrary view.

Regards

Michael
 
Old Apr 8th 2007, 6:17 pm
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Come-Along.nl
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"Michael Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> For what it's worth, my view on this is that it isn't a good idea, as a
> tourist, to be handing out gifts to local children - especially candy
> bars.
>
> If you want to help the local people there are plenty of organisations out
> there that would be happy to use a donation from you, or you could even
> donate directly to a local school.
>
> Giving gifts directly to children just fosters a culture of dependence
> that encourages the children to skip school and hassle tourists.
>
> Just my 2c. Others may have contrary view.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael


I fully agree with Michael. Stop making children depending on gifts! What's
the longterm goal of this handing out sweets?
 
Old Apr 8th 2007, 7:42 pm
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Marc Lurie
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I also absolutely agree with Michael. Candy is the worst thing that tourists
(or anyone for that matter) should dish out. It might make YOU feel good,
but the kid is going to suffer in the long run.

I also agree with Michael that donations to local organisations would be a
far better way to make a contribution. Local church groups, feeding schemes,
literacy schemes, AIDS awareness and support groups, etc. etc. etc. all know
exactly where they need to spend money.

There are loads of opportunities for tourists to visit communities and make
a difference. A regular contributor to this NG is Kurt. He's based in Cape
Town, and would know who to get in touch with down there.

Regards,
Marc
"Michael Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For what it's worth, my view on this is that it isn't a good idea, as a
> tourist, to be handing out gifts to local children - especially candy
> bars.
>
> If you want to help the local people there are plenty of organisations out
> there that would be happy to use a donation from you, or you could even
> donate directly to a local school.
>
> Giving gifts directly to children just fosters a culture of dependence
> that encourages the children to skip school and hassle tourists.
>
> Just my 2c. Others may have contrary view.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
 
Old Apr 8th 2007, 8:03 pm
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Liz Leyden
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In message <[email protected]>
"Marc Lurie" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I also absolutely agree with Michael. Candy is the worst thing that tourists
> (or anyone for that matter) should dish out. It might make YOU feel good,
> but the kid is going to suffer in the long run.
>
> I also agree with Michael that donations to local organisations would be a
> far better way to make a contribution. Local church groups, feeding schemes,
> literacy schemes, AIDS awareness and support groups, etc. etc. etc. all know
> exactly where they need to spend money.
>
> There are loads of opportunities for tourists to visit communities and make
> a difference. A regular contributor to this NG is Kurt. He's based in Cape
> Town, and would know who to get in touch with down there.

I agree totally with Michael, Marc etc. There is no point in handing
out gifts willy-nilly to children, but a real value in supporting
long-term development groups.

Slainte

Liz
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Old Apr 8th 2007, 9:11 pm
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Ned Abell
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In article <[email protected]>,
Liz Leyden <[email protected]> wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Marc Lurie" <[email protected]>
> wrote:

> > I also absolutely agree with Michael. Candy is the worst
> > thing that tourists (or anyone for that matter) should
> > dish out. It might make YOU feel good, but the kid is
> > going to suffer in the long run.
> >
> > I also agree with Michael that donations to local
> > organisations would be a far better way to make a
> > contribution. Local church groups, feeding schemes,
> > literacy schemes, AIDS awareness and support groups, etc.
> > etc. etc. all know exactly where they need to spend money.
> >
> > There are loads of opportunities for tourists to visit
> > communities and make a difference. A regular contributor
> > to this NG is Kurt. He's based in Cape Town, and would
> > know who to get in touch with down there.

> I agree totally with Michael, Marc etc. There is no point
> in handing out gifts willy-nilly to children, but a real
> value in supporting long-term development groups.

Can I suggest Room to Read
www.roomtoread.org/countries/south_africa.html which I can
vouch for as a charity we have supported in Morocco which has
impeccable credentials

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Ned

(this email address is unused)
 
Old Apr 9th 2007, 4:11 am
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Corn
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"krypto" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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> I'm going on a trip to Capetown and KNP for the first time. Is there
> something I can bring along to give to local children .... pencils or
> candy bars, stuff like that? What are some of the places where I might
> run across kids that need stuff?

If you want to help the local people... they have more needs then candy bars
and pencils. There are in every rural village organisations where you can
contribute towards the fight against HIV/AIDS, Tbc etc.

If you go in at the Kruger gate near Hazyview, you pass 1 or 2 townships.

Enjoy your stay.

Regards from the bush,

Corné.

www.amukela.com
 
Old Apr 9th 2007, 6:52 am
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oneofcold
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On Apr 8, 7:01 pm, "krypto" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm going on a trip to Capetown and KNP for the first time. Is there
> something I can bring along to give to local children .... pencils or
> candy bars, stuff like that? What are some of the places where I might
> run across kids that need stuff?


That's a terrible idea. You don't want the local children to learn
that begging is the way to get what they want...or to think that
Westerners are there to bring them gifts. Candy bars are an
especially bad idea since many poor children won't have access to
dentistry. If you want to help, contribute to charities which are
active there, especially charities run by locals.
 
Old Apr 9th 2007, 9:14 am
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Rocketscience
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On Apr 9, 12:11 pm, "Corn�" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "krypto" <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnews:[email protected] oglegroups.com...
>
> > I'm going on a trip to Capetown and KNP for the first time. Is there
> > something I can bring along to give to local children .... pencils or
> > candy bars, stuff like that? What are some of the places where I might
> > run across kids that need stuff?
>
> If you want to help the local people... they have more needs then candy bars
> and pencils. There are in every rural village organisations where you can
> contribute towards the fight againstHIV/AIDS, Tbc etc.
>
> If you go in at the Kruger gate near Hazyview, you pass 1 or 2 townships.
>
> Enjoy your stay.
>
> Regards from the bush,
>
> Corn�.
>
> www.amukela.com

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