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Strike in SA affecting tourism?

Old Jun 2nd 2007, 6:48 am
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Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
tourism at the moment?

I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 3rd 2007, 6:57 pm
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As far as I can tell, the strike will have little effect on tourists.
A colleague flew into SA on Friday, and there was no problem with
immigration officials.

Baggage handlers and all other airport staff are privately employed so
there's no problem there.

I'm afraid I don't know about SANP employees. I'll try to find out.

The staff at hospitals have joined the strike, but these are only at
the government hospitals where you wouldn't want to visit anyway.
Private hospitals are operating normally.

Personally, I haven't felt the slightest impact of the strike, except
that I have noticed that there's a lot less traffic.

Marc

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:48:19 +0200, Wildpicture <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
>tourism at the moment?
>
>I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
>baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
>about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?
>
>Regards,
>Hans
 
Old Jun 4th 2007, 5:25 am
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Marc Lurie schreef:
> As far as I can tell, the strike will have little effect on tourists.
> A colleague flew into SA on Friday, and there was no problem with
> immigration officials.
> Baggage handlers and all other airport staff are privately employed so
> there's no problem there.

Thanks. I was afraid that air traffic controllers etc might also be
joining in. Of course would mean that they shoot themselves in the foot
by doing so, but not all such actions are based on ratio.

> I'm afraid I don't know about SANP employees. I'll try to find out.

Don't know if they are still officially government, but they seem to be
more caring for tourists.

> The staff at hospitals have joined the strike, but these are only at
> the government hospitals where you wouldn't want to visit anyway.

:-)

> Private hospitals are operating normally.
> Personally, I haven't felt the slightest impact of the strike, except
> that I have noticed that there's a lot less traffic.

That is indeed not a problem. As long as staff at tollroads are not
joining in.

Again thanks for the info. Still have a alittle time, before flying
south....

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 4th 2007, 10:12 pm
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I'VE JUST TAKEN THIS FROM RADIO 702 WEBSITE

"Immigration staff cause delays at OR Tambo 05/06/2007 08:45:09

OR Tambo International Airport is experiencing slight delays this
morning as some immigration staff did not arrive for work.

This forms part of the massive nationwide strike currently underway.

Most government departments, including schools and hospitals have been
severely disrupted.

This morning some flights have been affected and queues were
apparently moving very slowly.

But the Airports Company South Africa, Acsa, says contingency plans by
the Home Affairs Department have already kicked in.

Acsa's Solomon Mokgale says they were merely caught off-guard this
morning. "

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:48:19 +0200, Wildpicture <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
>tourism at the moment?
>
>I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
>baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
>about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?
>
>Regards,
>Hans
 
Old Jun 5th 2007, 6:03 am
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Marc Lurie schreef:
> I'VE JUST TAKEN THIS FROM RADIO 702 WEBSITE
> "Immigration staff cause delays at OR Tambo 05/06/2007 08:45:09
> OR Tambo International Airport is experiencing slight delays this
> morning as some immigration staff did not arrive for work.
> But the Airports Company South Africa, Acsa, says contingency plans by
> the Home Affairs Department have already kicked in.

Thanks Marc. I found this statement and was a bit afraid:

"Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) Western Cape secretary
Tony Ehrenreich warned foreign travellers wanting to visit SA to
reconsider their plans as no immigration and customs personnel would be
on duty. This was expected to cause chaos at the two main international
airports, OR Tambo in Johannesburg and Cape Town International Airport."

Hope things settle down a bit in the next few weeks. If they cause too
much damage to the South African image in the rest of the world, it will
hurt them hart as many people depend upon tourism and South Africa needs
to prove it can host the soccer worldchampionship. But still, it always
surprises me how little idea the average South African in the street has
about how their country is perceived outside of their direct neighbours...

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 6th 2007, 12:57 am
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I've done a bit of arithmetic relating to the strike.

Let's take a worker who currently earns R4000 a month. The current
offer is 6.5%, but the unions are insisting on 12%.

If the strike lasts one month the worker will lose R4000. If the
strike is succesfull and the worker gets his 12% increase his salary
goes up to R4480. It will take 8 1/2 months just to recover the salary
lost during the strike. And will just be breaking even when the time
comes for the next wage negotiations.

Along with not getting paid for the month of the strike comes the
problems of reposessions for unpaid loans, extende credit from
unscrupulous loansharks etc. By the end of the day, the unions will
have actually LOWERED their members standard of living.

However, we are nearing an election, and COSATU wants to flex its
muscles a bit, and the strike is more about political ambitions than
it is about workers welfare.

Regards,
Marc




On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:48:19 +0200, Wildpicture <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
>tourism at the moment?
>
>I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
>baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
>about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?
>
>Regards,
>Hans
 
Old Jun 6th 2007, 5:47 am
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> Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
> tourism at the moment?
>
> I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
> baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
> about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?

Tourists who booked 1 month or more in advance won't cancel their trip
because of a possible strike. So no, I don't think it might get affected.

Corn�.
 
Old Jun 6th 2007, 8:16 am
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Corn� schreef:
>> Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
>> tourism at the moment?
>> I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic
>> control, baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and
>> airports? What about staff of SANP (are they still in government
>> service)?
> Tourists who booked 1 month or more in advance won't cancel their trip
> because of a possible strike. So no, I don't think it might get affected.

I was not referring to the tourism sector, but to individual tourists.
Tourists who have booked and paid in advance may not cancel, because
they do not want to loose their holiday and money. So in the short run
the tourism sector may not be affected.

But if these tourists experience serious trouble, at the airport, on the
roads or wherever, it affects THEM and spoils their precious holiday
they have worked and saved for. That was what I meant.

If tourists experience such difficulties, they will of course spread the
word when back home. They will think twice about coming again and may
influence other tourists to go somewhere else. Now that WOULD affect the
tourism sector, and thereby the South African economy! That is what so
many people fail to see.

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 6th 2007, 6:41 pm
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> Corn� schreef:
>>> Is the general strike in the public sector in South Africa affecting
>>> tourism at the moment?
>>> I am thinking about customs officials at airports, air traffic control,
>>> baggage handling, etc? Anything involving air traffic and airports? What
>>> about staff of SANP (are they still in government service)?


>> Tourists who booked 1 month or more in advance won't cancel their trip
>> because of a possible strike. So no, I don't think it might get affected.

>
> I was not referring to the tourism sector, but to individual tourists.

Ah, sorry. In the subject line it says: 'affecting tourism'


> But if these tourists experience serious trouble, at the airport, on the
> roads or wherever, it affects THEM and spoils their precious holiday they
> have worked and saved for. That was what I meant.

Is there already a strike at the Airports? As far as I am aware there isn't.

>
> If tourists experience such difficulties, they will of course spread the
> word when back home. They will think twice about coming again and may
> influence other tourists to go somewhere else. Now that WOULD affect the
> tourism sector, and thereby the South African economy! That is what so
> many people fail to see.


But tourists don't experience such difficulties, as there is no strike in
the National Parks, nor at the Airports.
The word spread will be that SA is a fantastich country with culture,
beautiful coastlines, impressive mountains and well managed national parks
which they can easily explore by themselves.
One of my guests who are looking now to buy property here, mentioned that
the border-official was so friendly to them.

So Hans, nothing to worry about

Regards from the bush,

Corn�.

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Old Jun 6th 2007, 7:46 pm
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Corn� schreef:
> Is there already a strike at the Airports? As far as I am aware there
> isn't.

There have been minor disturbances which caused some extra waiting. But
I was merely inquiring about the actual situation as I read this on the
Sa news:

"Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) Western Cape secretary
Tony Ehrenreich warned foreign travellers wanting to visit SA to
reconsider their plans as no immigration and customs personnel would be
on duty. This was expected to cause chaos at the two main international
airports, OR Tambo in Johannesburg and Cape Town International Airport."

So far it seems things run pretty smoothly at JNB. My comment was that
such remarks by union leaders are very unwise. And if the situation he
describes would happen, it would even be more unwise.

> The word spread will be that SA is a fantastich country with culture,
> beautiful coastlines, impressive mountains and well managed national
> parks which they can easily explore by themselves.

It is. But it is also a country with serious crime. And also serious
corruption and incompetent leadership at many levels in (local)
government. That is what is causing the fact that resources are not
applied to poor people who really need it. Unfortunately the government
style is more and more turning towards former east european styles
(well, that is where a lot of them have been trained). There is no real
open, transparent democracy as most is covered up within the single
party ruling the country. Criticism is not regarded as potentially
helpfull but done away with as unwanted, unrespectfull,
counterproductive or even racist.

> One of my guests who are looking now to buy property here, mentioned
> that the border-official was so friendly to them.

I too have been looking to buy property in SA, with the intention of
moving there permanently. We found a lovely property near Naboomspruit.
Unfortunately things didn't follow through then (4 years ago). At the
moment we stopped looking for property because of the reason I mentioned
above. We have two little children and at the moment I just don't like
the direction into which SA is developping. It would be their future too.

Oh, and of course, fortunately there are still lots and lots of friendly
people in SA! At the border and inside. :-)

> So Hans, nothing to worry about

No worries in Africa. :-)))

Regards,
Hans

P.s. How's the weather over there? Have you had any rainshowers the last
few days?
 
Old Jun 7th 2007, 3:20 am
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>
> "Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) Western Cape secretary
> Tony Ehrenreich warned foreign travellers wanting to visit SA to
> reconsider their plans as no immigration and customs personnel would be on
> duty. This was expected to cause chaos at the two main international
> airports, OR Tambo in Johannesburg and Cape Town International Airport."
>
> So far it seems things run pretty smoothly at JNB. My comment was that
> such remarks by union leaders are very unwise. And if the situation he
> describes would happen, it would even be more unwise.

What can you say about this, welcome in Africa? I agree it's plain stupid
but remember from which corner it comes (Trade Union). It smells a bit like
black mail.

>
>> The word spread will be that SA is a fantastich country with culture,
>> beautiful coastlines, impressive mountains and well managed national
>> parks which they can easily explore by themselves.
>
> It is. But it is also a country with serious crime. And also serious
> corruption and incompetent leadership at many levels in (local)
> government. That is what is causing the fact that resources are not
> applied to poor people who really need it. Unfortunately the government
> style is more and more turning towards former east european styles (well,
> that is where a lot of them have been trained). There is no real open,
> transparent democracy as most is covered up within the single party ruling
> the country. Criticism is not regarded as potentially helpfull but done
> away with as unwanted, unrespectfull, counterproductive or even racist.

Alas I have to agree with you. After apartheid comes now the 1 party system,
like indeed in many former east-Europe countries.


> I too have been looking to buy property in SA, with the intention of
> moving there permanently. We found a lovely property near Naboomspruit.

That is a nice area with lot's of space and gamefarms!

> Unfortunately things didn't follow through then (4 years ago). At the
> moment we stopped looking for property because of the reason I mentioned
> above. We have two little children and at the moment I just don't like the
> direction into which SA is developping. It would be their future too.

I have a son of 9 months now, and he will grow up here in the bush. I think
that as long as the ANC has the power there is a future for us here, when
they start losing an election and the DA comes into power.... then things
like in Zimbabwe can happen. I never belief that the ANC will ever give up
their power. So... the change will have to come from inside the ANC itself.

>
> Oh, and of course, fortunately there are still lots and lots of friendly
> people in SA! At the border and inside. :-)

Haha, yes there are!


> No worries in Africa. :-)))

Hakuna Matata!

>
> P.s. How's the weather over there? Have you had any rainshowers the last
> few days?


Yes, very strangely we had some drops of rain yesterday.

Keep well.

Corn�.
 
Old Jun 7th 2007, 4:21 am
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Corn� schreef:
> Alas I have to agree with you. After apartheid comes now the 1 party
> system, like indeed in many former east-Europe countries.

It is this kind of thing that worries me:

The SABC has again changed its mind about screening a controversial
documentary on President Thabo Mbeki that was canned about a year ago.

"No, it will not be shown," said SABC spokesperson Kaizer Kganyago on
Thursday after the Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) released a
statement indicating that the documentary would be screened.

On Thursday, documentary producer Ben Cashden told Sapa that the
programme would be aired on Sunday at 9pm on SABC 3.

"We really feel no one has the right to announce things for us,"
Kganyago said.

The initial canning of the documentary caused an outcry with accusations
of self-censorship levelled against the national broadcaster.

At the time SABC said the programme was canned because "internal
approval processes were not correctly followed".

The FXI expressed concern that the reportedly critical tone adopted
towards Mbeki had resulted in the withdrawal of the documentary, thus
constituting self-censorship.

>> P.s. How's the weather over there? Have you had any rainshowers the
>> last few days?
> Yes, very strangely we had some drops of rain yesterday.

I saw that some rain was predicted for the area just west of Kruger.
Strange. Well, I guess it is welcomed!

Still counting the days until we fly southwards...... :-)))

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 7th 2007, 5:14 am
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"Wildpicture" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Corn� schreef:
>> Alas I have to agree with you. After apartheid comes now the 1 party
>> system, like indeed in many former east-Europe countries.
>
> It is this kind of thing that worries me:
>
> The SABC has again changed its mind about screening a controversial
> documentary on President Thabo Mbeki that was canned about a year ago.
>
> "No, it will not be shown," said SABC spokesperson Kaizer Kganyago on
> Thursday after the Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) released a
> statement indicating that the documentary would be screened.
>
> On Thursday, documentary producer Ben Cashden told Sapa that the programme
> would be aired on Sunday at 9pm on SABC 3.
>
> "We really feel no one has the right to announce things for us," Kganyago
> said.
>
> The initial canning of the documentary caused an outcry with accusations
> of self-censorship levelled against the national broadcaster.


Yes, the SABC is state-owned, as is MNET (these can be received with a
normal areal).
To understand the ANC you have to understand the African culture, within the
ANC there is a strong democracy, but towards the outworld (DA, the media,
foreign media etc.) the form one block.
Example: the ANC wouldn't critisize Zuma in public, but it seems his career
is over. Like Winnie Mandela in the 90's.


>
> At the time SABC said the programme was canned because "internal approval
> processes were not correctly followed".


Which says as much as: to much criticism.

>
> Still counting the days until we fly southwards...... :-)))

Aha And when is that Hans, and where do you go this time?

Keep well.

Regards from the bush, lovely stars now!!

Corn�.

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Old Jun 7th 2007, 6:49 am
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Corn� schreef:
>> Still counting the days until we fly southwards...... :-)))
> Aha And when is that Hans, and where do you go this time?

This time no remote parts of Botswana or even Zambia. :-( It will be our
first trip with both our young children (ages 5 and nearly 3), so we'll
do it more "convenient" and stay in bungalows in Kruger for a month.
We'll head south in a couple of weeks.

The kids love to study animals from field guides. Absolutely amazing
what they already recognize. Even the youngest can already identify many
different mammals and birds!

>lovely stars now!!

Over here no stars. Just daylight until almost 23.00hrs...

Regards,
Hans
 
Old Jun 7th 2007, 6:43 pm
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> Corn� schreef:
>>> Still counting the days until we fly southwards...... :-)))
>> Aha And when is that Hans, and where do you go this time?
>
> This time no remote parts of Botswana or even Zambia. :-( It will be our
> first trip with both our young children (ages 5 and nearly 3), so we'll do
> it more "convenient" and stay in bungalows in Kruger for a month. We'll
> head south in a couple of weeks.

That is great. My personal favorite camps in the Kruger are Lower Sabie,
Letaba, Mopani and Shingwedzi.

>
> The kids love to study animals from field guides. Absolutely amazing what
> they already recognize. Even the youngest can already identify many
> different mammals and birds!


Yes, children learn fast. We think Niels (my son of 9 months) will learn 4
languages: dutch (off course), english and afrikaans, and tsonga since this
is the language of our staff.

>
>>lovely stars now!!
>
> Over here no stars. Just daylight until almost 23.00hrs...
>

Wait till you are in the Kruger! Enjoy it. If you feel like coming for a
drink you are more then welcome. Maybe we meet in the park, after all it's a
small world after all.

Have a good weekend.

Regards from the bush,

Corn�.

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